How did the tail-end of Baby-Boomers produce such dysfunction? - Page 4

jhynesrockmtn · 05-16-2016, 08:30 PM

Do these threads come up on sync with some menstrual cycle or moon phase or something? Yes, there are lazy people in the world but my 26 YO, Masters in Social Work, put herself through grad school, working since she was 17, now with a good job working to help kids that have been through hell and my ROTC scholarship, 1st Lieutenant, Ranger qualified, heading to Afghanistan on Friday 23 year old would tell you to calm down.

rcooled · 05-16-2016, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by osidak

They don't seem to feel the need to work up the ladder - they think they are owed the position they want.

Similar story at my company. We hired two recent engineering grads who were put in a "Fast-Track" program that would've moved them into management in short order. Both of them quit after 6 months because they felt that they weren't moving up fast enough. These were two kids fresh out of school, with no experience, and who could barely find their asses with both hands.

On the other hand, it's great to hear stories from some of you about your hard-working, successful youngsters. I wish that this country had thousands more just like them...

JD159 · 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn

Do these threads come up on sync with some menstrual cycle or moon phase or something? Yes, there are lazy people in the world but my 26 YO, Masters in Social Work, put herself through grad school, working since she was 17, now with a good job working to help kids that have been through hell and my ROTC scholarship, 1st Lieutenant, Ranger qualified, heading to Afghanistan on Friday 23 year old would tell you to calm down.

See what I mean? This forum is so overun with engineers who think any non stem discipline is basking weaving and good for nothing.

Weird how everyone posts how great their millennial kids are, yet somehow WE ARE ALL LAZY.

I'm going with moon phases.

tabs · 05-16-2016, 10:32 PM

There is a reason why non technological people are wanted for Big Data jobs. It is called non linear thinking. Big Data is trying to use technology to get in touch with the Animal Spirits or put another way the collective sentiment of society. Quite frankly that is one of the things I do an that is I talk to them spirits only I dont need no box to figure it out.

It is really ironic in that people are trying to use linear thinking in trying to catch a non linear wave. To catch that wave you have to use subjective intution.

wdfifteen · wdfifteen's Garage

This again? Yes, I think is brought on by a moon phase.

Between my wife and I we are 2 for 3. My son has his doctorate and manages addiction studies at a leading university hospital. Wife's son earned his MBA and is plant manager for a pharmaceutical company. Her daughter is a disrespectful, irresponsible, hateful person. Same genes, same upbringing, but totally different than her brother. Why??

KFC911 · 05-17-2016, 04:31 AM

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On the other hand, it's great to hear stories from some of you about your hard-working, successful youngsters. I wish that this country had thousands more just like them...

It does....the sky is falling, but they'll be just fine. Same as it ever was...

recycled sixtie · recycled sixtie's Garage

I think it is wrong to stereotype our current youth. There were nogoods and hardworkers in the past and nothing has changed. Our daughter will have her Phd this September. We will hear by this Friday if she has got a job as research facilitator. If not she can go to Oxford Univ. or Cornell or Australia for her Post Doc.

I look around and see the extremes of talent the same as it has always been.

Otter74 · 05-17-2016, 09:06 AM

I'll write you privately - don't want to take this thread off-topic.

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I would be grateful for such an exchange, even if done publicly.

Otter74 · 05-17-2016, 09:13 AM

"Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We, their sons, are more
worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more
corrupt."

So wrote Horace a couple thousand years ago; I think boomers' kids are just fine.

daepp · 05-17-2016, 11:26 AM

How can you see this and remain hopeful? I really want to know.

JD159 · 05-17-2016, 02:08 PM

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How can you see this and remain hopeful? I really want to know.

Your actually an idiot. Lemme go see what I can dig up with a baby boomer sounding like an idiot.

JD159 · 05-17-2016, 02:09 PM

On second thought, your a good example.

I worry about our future because people like you cast judgements in the way that you do.

jhynesrockmtn · 05-17-2016, 02:12 PM

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How can you see this and remain hopeful? I really want to know.

How can you watch TV in this day and age of social media BS, lack of journalistic integrity, reality TV scripted for shock effect, etc. and assume it is representative of a generation of people? Are you saying slacker idiots didn't exist in prior generations or could it be that they just weren't on one of the hundreds of pseudo news channels that exist today? I attended my son's Ranger School graduation and my daughters grad school graduation within a few months of each other last year. I came away inspired and feeling a significant lack of having accomplished much in life when I met their classmates and fellow soldiers. Maybe watch a bit less television.

daepp · 05-17-2016, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JD159

Your actually an idiot. Lemme go see what I can dig up with a baby boomer sounding like an idiot.

At least I can spell...

rusnak · 05-17-2016, 02:37 PM

Do I think that virtues are being lost on the current generation, such as hard work and honesty?

Yes.

Do I think that the current generation has a morality that centers more on themselves than others?

Yes.

I see the trend toward more government dependency as a bad thing, as well as the legalization of drugs and the encouragement of sexual exploration (that's how I see the whole gender neutral thing - it's encouraging sexual freedom), and the destruction of the family unit as all very bad things.

It's not about who's at fault. The point is that we're in trouble as a society.

sc_rufctr · 05-17-2016, 03:41 PM

The biggest problem most of us have in The West is that we can't afford a brand new BMW.

Obesity is the norm and mediocrity is assured. Life is plush and easy. Were's the challenge?

JD159 · 05-17-2016, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by daepp

At least I can spell...

Typed in haste on my phone. Your pathetic.

rcooled · 07:50 PM

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There were nogoods and hardworkers in the past and nothing has changed.

This is very true. The difference nowadays is that it's much easier for slackers to get by without ever breaking a sweat. With all the social safety nets in place today, it's fairly easy to alternate working some menial job with collecting unemployment for up to six months, or to find some "Dr. Feelgood" to put you on disability, or to just collect welfare & get on food stamps. I know this young burn-out who didn't like having to work, so she got herself pregnant and then went on welfare immediately after giving birth. She claims that raising her child is her job, and has no qualms at all about mooching off the state. She lives in some section 8 chithole, has free medical care for herself and her child, and gets her groceries for very low cost thru a food program for low-income families. For a little extra spending money, she'll do odd jobs now & then for friends...cash only.

If you have little or no ambition, and are content to just scrape by day-to-day, it's not very hard at all to survive without having to contribute a thing to the greater good.

daepp · 05-17-2016, 08:28 PM

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Typed in haste on my phone. Your pathetic.

Was that one in haste too? Or the one before that? You obviously have a problem with simple grammar/punctuation. Or is it that you missed the lessons on contractions? You know what they say about people who live in glass houses...

Now if we could have a civil discussion without name calling, that might be productive, or at least lead to a little clarity? It's YOUR call.

JD159 · 05-17-2016, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by daepp

Was that one in haste too? Or the one before that? You obviously have a problem with simple grammar/punctuation. Or is it that you missed the lessons on contractions? You know what they say about people who live in glass houses...

Now if we could have a civil discussion without name calling, that might be productive, or at least lead to a little clarity? It's YOUR call.

Yes yes. A civil mature discussion. Let's pull up a YouTube video and use that to draw conclusions about an ENTIRE GENERATION.

If you would like to have an INTELLIGENT conversation, it's up to you. It's your call.