led RSR Tail lt. assy. - Page 4

Vintage911Racer · 03-10-2005, 08:32 AM

Ray

Email me at mark @ vararacing . com

PcarPhil · 03-10-2005, 08:39 AM

Ray,

Do you have a timeframe estimate for the availablility of the 'patch'?

Thanks,
-Kaefer

msailer · 03-27-2005, 08:31 PM

Where can we order these lights from?

PcarPhil · 03-28-2005, 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by msailer
Where can we order these lights from?

Contact Ray 911s.

Here's quick update on my saga with these lights. Ray is working on an updated solution for people who need reverse lights. In the mean time he sent me a pair of amber lights to use for turn signals.

I'm trying to think up ideas on what to do for reverse lights. A couple options may be to re-wire the stock blinker relay, or perhaps add a third pair of lights somewhere on the back of the car to use as reverse lights. Possibly add some low profile lights near the license plate or possible mount lights to the bumper in place of the reflectors that are on most stock early cars.

Has anyone else come up with a solution for reverse lights that are also using Ray's LED lights?

Thanks,
-Kaefer

craig001 · craig001's Garage

These look sweet! Can they be made for a 964? Sorry if this has been asked before, but I'm thinking about sending my spare set of lights and reflector to Germany for the blacked out look by Linatec.

msailer · 03-28-2005, 05:32 AM

My thoughts on reverse lights was to use a small, read cheap, fog light that uses a regular 12v turn signal bulb. A pair can be had a most Auto Parts stores for around $10. Hang this under your rear bumper, maybe in the center partially hidden by the license plate.

How about a side turn signal indicator, say from an Audi, use a clear lense and an LED. Mount this to the bumper.

All we need is one white light that lights in reverse to satisfy most states inspection requirements, I believe.

msailer · 05-06-2005, 10:46 AM

I got my light and they look awesome!

But, I am having problems with the lights, the red one in particular.
When the wiring (3 pin plug) for the brake and running lights are all connected I get no brake light. Running/marker light works fine. When it is just the brake light, it works fine ( 2 wires connected). Hook up the running light and brake light, all three wires connected, no more brake light.

1985 911 Carrera Coupe ===== Red LED Light
Black/Yellow stripe - brake =====> Black
Gray/Red stripe - marker/running light => Red
brown - ground ================>White

HELP!

Ray 911s · 05-07-2005, 10:20 AM

Mark, your leads are reversed. Connect the Gray/Red to black on the LED, and the Black/Yellow to red on the LED.

Let me know how it works out. I may need to reword the installation instructions a bit for this situation.

msailer · 05-07-2005, 03:19 PM

Thanks reversed the wires to what you have stated above and they are now working. THANKS!

Maybe add a diagram too. At least for me, it is easier to follow an electrical diagram.

Now to get them painted. ; )

Ray 911s · 05-07-2005, 05:20 PM

Great. I think you are right - a wiring diagram would be a helpful addition to the instruction sheet. I'll get started on one. Thanks for the tip!

I'm glad they're working out for you.

fastpat · 05-07-2005, 09:17 PM

Another interesting LED automotive lighting resource is LEDTronics. I'm trying out some of their bulbs in my truck.

The problem, so far, is to find a flasher that can deal with the low wattage of the bulb, most current flashers can't handle the 0.5 watt bulb, they're looking for 21 watts.

lateapex911 · 05-07-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Another interesting LED automotive lighting resource is LEDTronics. I'm trying out some of their bulbs in my truck.

The problem, so far, is to find a flasher that can deal with the low wattage of the bulb, most current flashers can't handle the 0.5 watt bulb, they're looking for 21 watts.

Or, use this: http://www.ledtronics.com/ds/AUT3157/default.asp#resistor

Ray 911s · 05-08-2005, 06:10 AM

If you are just sonverting incandescent bulbs to LED within an existing lamp assembly, there is a good solution to the flasher controller HERE.

fastpat · 05-08-2005, 07:01 AM

Yes, these solutions have been available almost from the start of LED conversions. As noted on LEDTronics site, they have the problem of heat generated by the resistor, and of course they negate one of the benefits of going to LED's, low power consumption.

While I agree that these are very simple solutions, better is a modified flasher, and best is a new flasher that can either be adjusted to compensate or a flasher that flashes based on time, not current draw.

Ray 911s · 05-08-2005, 07:26 AM

These solutions are helpful - necessary, in fact, if you are converting most or all of your standard lamps to LEDs. If just converting a few - the rear stop/turn/tail, for example, the standard flasher works fine because there is still sufficient current draw from the rest of the lamps. The first sign that you have reduced current below acceptable levels in your Porsche will be that the turn indicators on the dash will both flash when you turn on one or the other blinker. Again, this should only be an issue if you have replaced most or all of your incandescents will LED lamps. The 911R rear conversions will not require flasher modifications.

PcarPhil · 05-09-2005, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by Ray 911s
The first sign that you have reduced current below acceptable levels in your Porsche will be that the turn indicators on the dash will both flash when you turn on one or the other blinker. Again, this should only be an issue if you have replaced most or all of your incandescents will LED lamps. The 911R rear conversions will not require flasher modifications.

My '71 with 911R rear LED lamps has caused my turn indicators in the dash to flash like I have a bad bulb. No other LED lamps on my car.

It's not a big deal but it is an issue.
-Kaefer

thrown_hammer · 05-09-2005, 08:14 AM

My turn signal indicators have always flashed simultaniously. Even before I put the LED "R" lights on the car. What should I look at?

Oh and here is a good shot of my LED "R" lights...

}{arlequin · }{arlequin's Garage

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Originally posted by thrown_hammer
My turn signal indicators have always flashed simultaniously. Even before I put the LED "R" lights on the car. What should I look at?

Oh and here is a good shot of my LED "R" lights...

ditto. any pointers on how to resolve this or is it a trial-and-error-w/-the-wiring thing?

lateapex911 · 05-15-2006, 09:56 AM

I would imagine a resistor across them would do the trick. Probably easier to do it up nearer the flasher. I would get Warren or John Cramer to name a value, LOL

Kroggers · Kroggers's Garage

I believe that the normal resistor size for the LED conversion on a car is ~ 6 Ohms @ 50 Watt. I have converted most of my bulbs to LED, and am experimenting with trying to get the correct resistor. at the moment I have 6 Ohms for each corner, and they work, but I am still getting the bulb out problem on the indicators on the dash. I will try with bigger resistors during the next couple of weeks.
I also discovered that the circuit on our cars has the fuse for the indicators just before the bulbs, so that you can hock in the resistors at the fuse board.
The ideal solution would be (as already pointed out) to get a new flasher relay which does not react to the reduction in current load. I have been trying to find a suitable replacement for the car, but have not found one so far.