Well

I screwed with Timmins until the end... First I told him to build a street engine for my daily driver.
Half way to the built I changed my mind (when I bought the 993) and changed the cams on him.
I also always told him i would drive up the car and he could tune the motor in the car...
Now there is no time for me to do that... so he's going to have to tune the engine without the car and we'll install it here when everything is done.
For cold starts, partial throttle etc he's going to use a donor car....

So I will not post any actual number until I have the word go from Dr Timmins.

I don't think we'll be below 5lb/hp though... I must have been high if I said that....

Shooting for a high 5s number ;)

My rusty algebra still says that (assuming 2300 lbs) that's somewhere around 383-420 hp- which is nothing to sneeze at! And with perfect Motec-driveability to boot! It will be a monster! I'm still trying to figure out, finacially, how to swing Motec/EFI- so far still stuck in PMO-ville! Hopefully Excellence approached you about doing a story on this car before you leave for England. A build like this comes along very infrequently. It would be nice to have it documented and professionally photographed.

I have not heard from Excellence... I doubt there will be enough time though....

As per Motec/EFI... I think it could be done at a later stage. Also Motec is quite "expensive" compared to other systems like DTA etc.

I went with Motec because I found a deal from a fellow pelican. In fact Motec is the reason I decided to "upgrade" the engine. Basically I bought the ECU before anything else. At the time I was contemplating buying a 993TT engine to stuff in the car... but then I really wanted an NA motor... and the Motec would have been wasted on a stock 3.6 V-ram.....

Total 911 or 911 & Porsche World should be able to look after you.

Cheers,

David

So I went to Zuffenhaus yesterday... the car is coming along nicely... we are on schedule to meet the May 1st deadline so that Aaron and Keith can take it to the Treffen show.

Anyway I took some pics of little details that I thought were interesting....

I reduced the pics yday quickly and I think I reduced them too much.. sorry for the low quality...

The gauges are in and they look gorgeous. I decided to have the background metal exposed so we closed every hole/switch...

I love the black/blue contrast



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320 km/h ?? :D :D

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8k redline... Carrera RSR logo....

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Another neat detail is the GT3 RSR quick release hub customized to be mounted on my car...

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A picture of the 993 RS shifter and details of the G50/31 transmission.... note the RS rods, mounts and solid couplers...

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A couple of misc pics of the single wiper conversion and the 993 windshield seal...

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Stay tuned... now Keith and Aaron are really pushing it so I should have frequent updates.

Happy Easter to everybody!

Thanks for the pics. The dash looks awesome. I like the RSR insignia on the tach.

Looking great!

Why not set the mileage to zero in the odometer?

Or is that how many miles are on the 964 belly pan :D ???

Really incredible.

Will you be at Treffen, too? Or just your car?

Doug

I think it's illegal to reset the mileage on the odometer.

128k is what I had on my 88.

Arguably this is a new car... but I don't know the legalities of it...

I cannot personally make it to Treffen.... plus it's an R-Gruppe thing... I hope they are not going to burn my car... ;)

I can't make Treffen for the whole weekend, but considered shooting up there. Maybe I'll go up to see your monster. It is about a five hour drive for me.

As far as legalities, I think it is just illegal to roll it back without documenting. I have been meaning to set my back to the point where the motor was newly rebuilt (that was about 600 miles ago).

Sure seems fitting to put the miles back to zero. Besides, it now reads in KM/ H rather than MP/H, so you just chopped off 40%.

Looks gorgeous!
Doug

Ahahah there are both mph and km/h.

For legal reasons in the UK I need to have both on the speedo.

I am not sure if it applies to a 1974 car.. but I didn't want to have problems.... so I did both....

very nice matteo. can't wait to see it done. absolutely stunning stuff.

yeah, but is your odo in miles or km's ;)

LOVE the black/blue contrast very nice!

the details on this car are simply amazing!!!

i wish i could see it in person, but even photos are making my gaw drop....

what is the attraction of the 993 windshield?

The windshield is glued in thus increasing the torsional rigidity of the tub.

Also the rubber seals for all windows are different, allowing for a flush mount that reduces the drag.

These are minimal improvements but since everything was off we decided to go for it.

Did they have to install a 993 window frame (the metal) to make it work? I read some posts elsewhere that said later windows don't fit the earlier tubs.

Doug

Matteo,

If you fancy helping out a poor Brit (with a forthcoming RSR conversion) by squeezing those 'spare' Lindsey fuchs into your UK bound container, I'd be more than happy to cover the full purchase cost.

Otherwise a fantastic project and look forward to seeing this amazing 'work of art' in the UK.

Martin
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Martin

the wheels situation is very complicated right now. It's a rush against time to get the hubs here so that we can take the measurements and send them to the wheel maker.

These guys are in stand by but it will always take a few weeks to get them done (especially as they are custo made).

So since I need to have the car rolling and in working condition when I ship it I might have to take the Lindseys with me....

I am sure we'll be able to find an agreement ;)

Hi Matteo,

I'm really looking forward to seeing this in the flesh when you come over. Can I ask where you got your tacho adjusted and the new face for it?

Thanks,

David

North Hollywood did it David, the thread is here.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1157459882.jpg

Thanks John, I appreciate it.

Cheers,

David

Doug

I spoke with Keith and Aaron about this. This is what they answered to my question:

Q: Did the 993 windshield just fit as it was or did u have to modify anything? It is glued in, right? Should increase stiffness no?


A: Fit as it was. There is an additional 993 specific inner seal that lifts the windshield to make it flush.

The windshield is glued to that inner seal and to the surrounding window opening (or headliner, which is in that opening…)

The outer seal fits in a metal channel that is made onto the windshield.



I can’t speculate on the torsional advantage, but windshield urethane is some serious stuff, so it is possible that there could be some benefit in that area.



Wind noise should be reduced, regardless."


Doug I hope this helps.

Matteo,
Thank you. Interesting!
I read a thread the other day about guys trying to fit the trim-less 964 windshield and couldn't get it to work.

Doug

some progress pictures:

replacing fuse block and testing
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interior work (carpet fitting, etc.)
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door converted to old school locking and manual window operation
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Matteo, make sure you have Zuffenhaus make up a comprehensive wiring diagram for the Motec harness and the ancilliary electrical schematic for a car that is going across the pond, it will save you a world of hurt.

I met Matteo yesterday and got to see all the bits and pieces yet to be installed, this car is really going to be special! Can't wait to see it on track. :D

Amazing work these guy's are doing... I had the opportunity to see Matteo's car during EuroWerks open house. Yes, the car is as beautiful as the pictures reflect. Hope to meet you Matteo and see your very special 911 when completed... Thanks for keeping all of us informed.

Thanks, guys!

Rollbar installed:
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Good idea.

The guy I would recommend for MoTeC over here is a complete genius with the kit, but is a Porsche guy first, MoTeC guy second. Last time I was down there he was mapping a V12 E-Type with individual Jenvey throttle bodies!

He has lots of 911s running on MoTeC, and I have never met a guy so passionate about it. He's a zero BS, down-to-earth bloke who really knows his stuff. You should come and meet him when you are over Teo, he will love the car. Proper proper Porsche mechanic.

John

thanks for the heads up. I will certainly do that. There are a couple of shops that I want to visit when I am over... NineMeister also comes to mind...

We'll see... How is PCGB? Lots of DEs and track days? I can't wait to get this thing on the track.

I don't do the PCGB thing these days mate but lots of guys like it. Easy sign up for a year and see how you get on. They do quite a few track events and you can go see the lie of the land before you take the car out on one.

We go on track with a super organisation who really look after us and weed out all the numbskulls, so everything is safe, fun and fast. Lots of Porsches and lots of laughs, great tracks, almost no stoppages and not expensive. If you want to spend more money there are clubs like RMA who are probably at the top of the UK track day tree, but I am more than happy with the service we get from the friends we go out with. Silverstone GP, Spa and Donington GP this year as well as a Snetterton day.

Next year we have the run to Classic Le Mans - the track to end all tracks. We are thinking of doing a track day there in 2008 also with one of the French clubs. Oooh your car will love it over here ;)

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Matteo,

What is the black border material or trim that is apparent in the first of the newest pics. IE those that show the door as well as the pillar trim?

Was there any reason the roll bar didn't have mounting points extending into the engine bay? There seems to be a mounting plate just past the shock tower reinforcement area that would've made a good spot.
j.p.

WOW!! can't wait to see this monster fire up!!

JP, I think he plans on taking the roll bar out to allow the kids to go for rides in the blue rocket ship.

Ahh, that would makes sense.

That is the plan....