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Facey 03-05-2007 10:54 PM

yes to both, there wer lots of comparison done right when the car was new.

it was faster around le mans, smoked it in every performance category and the new engine sounds amazing, whereas the old big blocks sounds much more run of the mill (which they were in comparision).



i assumed you posted those questions doubting my claims...but the comparisions have been done...and there was a clear winner.

edit: sorry for OT/thread steal.... i'm stilling waiting to see what has happened in the last ~week since we saw the rolling chasis.

jrottn 03-06-2007 06:22 AM

matteo
thanks for the info
what kind of spring rates are you running (since the car will be street/track)?
p.s. I am sure the gt sounds decent but the 3.9 is going to be on a completely diff. level

911teo 03-06-2007 06:33 AM

I think we are going to use 400/500. I need to check with Keith...

Those spring rates sound really puny when u compared them to the newer cars (GT3s etc)...

It is a compromise... I really didnt want a cage in the car.

The GT is an attention getter, an easy to drive car, has AC, a stereo etc.
The 911 will be a different story altogether.

911teo 03-06-2007 06:35 AM

A tease of the GT

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173195272.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173195304.jpg

austin552 03-06-2007 06:39 AM

Very Nice!!
 
Hope to see you at the Food Lion AutoFair at Lowes Motor Speedway 4/12-15.

ros74911 03-06-2007 06:52 AM

teo, wow!!! what can i say. what's the break in period.

jrottn 03-06-2007 07:06 AM

those spring rates sound good
I have 350#F and 550#R that I also had on my old sc
Pretty good compromise street/track

Jon Merck 03-06-2007 07:13 AM

Whoa! Let us know when you go to CMP :D

lateapex911 03-06-2007 08:37 AM

So you don't just drive to the stealership to pick it up?? ;)

Actually, how did Ford handle the transaction? I can't imagine you just went in and grabbed the first salesmen with a shirt that matched his tie and said "I want a GT", did you!?

911teo 03-06-2007 08:45 AM

There are no more new GTs.

I used a broker. I bought mine unseen, with no pics, no PPI. I just wired the money to a guy I had never heard of. I was so nervous and scared. He did send me the title though.

I find it insane that you can't even test these cars before buying them. Having said that I would only allow a potential buyer to drive it if he had a cashier check in my name for the value of the car with him.

mjshira 03-06-2007 09:49 AM

Matteo,

Would like to get my NC visit back on track. Scuffy is up and running, I took her out last night for a blast around town, I think I woke up the folks in my little community as I running a flowmaster right now... LOL ;-)

Let me know a good weekend in April, can't wait to see your project.

bigrubberjeep 03-06-2007 05:01 PM

Matteo - You my friend own the sexiest car ever made in America.

Congrats

tahoe_snow 03-06-2007 05:08 PM

Note to self... Start a hedge fund.... :)

911teo 03-07-2007 04:06 AM

OK... so I went to Zuffenhaus yesterday....

Visual progress is minimal but they have been sorting the harness and elecrical connections...

Nonetheless I took a couple of pics...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173272673.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173272712.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173272732.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173272756.jpg

rexav8r 03-07-2007 04:18 AM

OK, what gives !! My "PORN" filter didn't catch ANY of these photos !!!!! ;)


Very dangerous !!! :eek:


I was wondering how you & your car had faired after that bang up. I remember when you first posted it, then I didn't see this thread, evidently for a while.

COOL STUFF MAN !!!!!http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif

ischmitz 03-07-2007 04:40 AM

Hm, the spring rate in the back must be monster-stiff since the ride height and attitude look more or less normal with no engine/tranny installed :eek:

Thrasher 03-07-2007 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tahoe_snow
Note to self... Start a hedge fund.... :)
no *****

To me, starting a hedge fund would be trying to save enough for some shrubs :D

Just kidding, I'm sure Matteo works a lot harder than I do!

Great perspective, Matteo. You are the exception.

Oh, and ischmitz, I think you overlooked one badazz tranny already mounted up.

ros74911 03-07-2007 07:26 AM

teo, wow! i still like your mexico blue demon. i was watching american supercar last night. it was viper against ford gt. awesome fast cars but not to own for me. i'm happy with my baby.

Facey 03-07-2007 07:49 AM

ya there is already a 6 speed tranny and an engine block hanging out back.... but i still didn't expect the gt to be THAT much shorter then the 911.

still the 911 has its thing going on, even next to a hyper exotic...


have you talked about the Ford Gt driving experience anywhere?

lateapex911 03-07-2007 08:49 AM

Anyone notice the obvious similarities?

The 911 is a modern day take on an old classic, and so is Fords GT.

The part lines of the 911 have the Ford beat though! Cool cars.

911teo 03-07-2007 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Facey
ya there is already a 6 speed tranny and an engine block hanging out back.... but i still didn't expect the gt to be THAT much shorter then the 911.

still the 911 has its thing going on, even next to a hyper exotic...


have you talked about the Ford Gt driving experience anywhere?

The GT is much longer than the 911. The 911 looks really small next to it.

I have not driven the GT much but it is totally different car.
The 911 just shrinks around you and you feel one with the car.

With the GT you are aware you are driving a big car. Plus it's heavy. Yes it has a torque monster in the back, but it is still 500 lbs heavier than my 993.

I haven't had the confidence of tossing it around much (the fact that it is very clear in my head the memory of writing a big check probably is holding me back a little).

The other thing is that in 3rd at 1k rpm you are doing 55 mph. The limits of the car are obvioulsy unreacheable on the street.

It feels like the GT would be perfect for a track like VIR (or the Ring or Le Mans (doh) for that matter) but would be too much for a shorter and tighter circuit.

For example I did the Tail of the Dragon last Summer with my 993 and I don't think the GT would be as much fun.

Hopefully (lots of things need to fit) I will be able to take both cars to CMP for a track day session on May 18.

Still trust me guys... the 911 is something special. The fact that the GT is not blowing me away in pure driving experience terms (Ok maybe this is a little early as I haven't really driven it much) is a testament of how good we have it with our 20-30 yr old cars.

Dutchie 03-07-2007 09:31 AM

a kickass rsr and a GT40 !! some guys have it all. Enjoy both Matteo :)

Cheers,

Craig 930 RS 03-07-2007 09:48 AM

I like your analysis, Teo.

I've been on track in a ferociously driven Carrera GT, and while it is undeniably quick, it lacked "that special visceral feel".
The howl one hears from outside a CGT is replaced by a resonating growl inside the car, the car is phenomenally quick on corner entry, and the brakes.........sweet Mother of.....otherworldy.

But:
911s are rewarding cars to drive quickly and they certainly don't tolerate mistakes, and take true skills over a few years to even come close to feeling like you've taken it all out of it.

I'm not even close to getting all I can out of the 930 -

Facey 03-07-2007 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dutchie
a kickass rsr and a GT40 !! some guys have it all. Enjoy both Matteo :)


some guys have earned both...
and some of us (myself) have not....

Back in 04 (i think) my dad was a potential GT customer, and because of his long standing relationship with B.C. ford we had an all black (no stripes) car for 1 1/2 days... i wasn't allowed to touch the drivers seat...but i can tell you that from the passenger seat it was pretty wild... though my dad disliked the shifter, especially the fact that it was angled..

it does sounds pretty neat though. If i had an ~100k to spend on a supercar it would most likely be my choice... though a nice modern rsr rebuild would make a good arguement.


and i agree, we have it very good with our 30 yr old cars.

have you taken the gt to redline yet?

Craig 930 RS 03-07-2007 10:02 AM

Ford GT at the track:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173293971.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173294028.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173294090.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173294061.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173294135.jpg

911teo 03-07-2007 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Facey
.

have you taken the gt to redline yet?

Err yes... but in 1st gear... First time I really nailed it and I was surprised at how quickly the revs build up... I hit the rev limiter :mad: and i was doing 70mph... :o

Craig 930 RS 03-07-2007 10:06 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173294243.jpg


And the door that bit my head ;)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173294392.jpg

mpeastend 03-07-2007 06:23 PM

Damn! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

911teo 03-07-2007 07:02 PM

These are my fav 2 pics of my GT so far... :D :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173326463.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173326548.jpg

Facey 03-07-2007 10:28 PM

yup
that is a VERY nice car.

thinkfloyd14 03-08-2007 02:16 AM

maybe i should start a new thread in OT, but whats a hedge fund?

RoyB 03-08-2007 02:34 AM

Damn! I was in Charlotte Tuesday and yesterday on business and I forgot to go by and look at Theo's car................

BTW...I love Charlotte..............Could easily live here!

palle7688 03-08-2007 04:39 AM

The Ford GT is a nice car but stay on topic, pls.

911teo 03-08-2007 04:59 AM

You are right, apologies... That's it on the GT.

lateapex911 03-08-2007 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thinkfloyd14
maybe i should start a new thread in OT, but whats a hedge fund?
LOL....this oughta be good! The heck wth staying on topic! ;)

JeremyD 03-08-2007 05:59 AM

Matteo - I need to see a picture of your wife -

That way I can make the full committment to "I want to be like Matteo" transformation... ;)

Very nice... both the GT40 and the 1974/964/3.9l mexico blue screamer

What's the difference between a mutual fund and a hedge fund?

911teo 03-08-2007 06:34 AM

Ok you wanted it... pls refrain from stupid jokes....

Also after this we are going back to talking abt the 911.. OK?


Here is the Italian stud, the British chick and the 2 American girls.

We are a happy family and I am a really fortunate man!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1173368036.jpg

mjshira 03-08-2007 06:39 AM

a wise and wealthy (I don't mean money) man indeed! great family, great perspective on success and great taste in cars!

shbop 03-08-2007 06:53 AM

That way I can make the full committment to "I want to be like Matteo" transformation...


I was all-in after the first shot of Mexico blue......

Facey 03-08-2007 09:38 AM

nice looking family. And it is obvious that you have your priorities striaght.

your cars probably fit right in!!!

cannot wait for more 3.9L updates...this is going to be a hard car to one up.....


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