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CBRacerX 08-03-2006 12:45 PM

Change oil every month! Wow - that is a great maint schedule :)

P.S. it is still a lot easier than the tank filter on the "real" 993 - ask the man who owns one.

quattrorunner 08-03-2006 12:49 PM

I meant evry other month "or so".

eimkeith 08-03-2006 12:51 PM

teo - didja get the blue pics I sent?

911teo 08-03-2006 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eimkeith
teo - didja get the blue pics I sent?
Not yet... I took some at Loren today but they are all witht he flash as the car was in a dark corner.

I will post them all tonight when I get home.

jmz 08-03-2006 01:20 PM

SICK, SICK, SICK. I'D BE DIVORCED BY NOW FOR SURE.

LUCKY, LUCKY, MAN.

Porsche Doc 08-03-2006 01:26 PM

Very Nice Man!:D

RichMink76 08-03-2006 01:44 PM

I see an Excellence article in your future.

I visit this forum daily and by some unbelievable misfortune I didn't notice this tread until today. This is an awesome project.

You are living the dream. Keep us posted.

Rich

911teo 08-03-2006 02:26 PM

OK I have got the pics of the powder coated tub.

I apologize for the darkness and the use of the flash. The car was stored in a dark corner of the shop.

It will be moved in the next couple pf days to get sanded and primed.

Then painted and back to Zuffenhaus for the re-assembling...

The tub

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154643723.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154643762.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154643799.jpg





Single wiper details

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154643831.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154643853.jpg






Oil cooling ducts details

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154643893.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154643938.jpg

911teo 08-03-2006 02:31 PM

Camber towers

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644056.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644076.jpg




Battery box

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644109.jpg



Dash (we filled all the holes in the instrument cluster as I am thinking of just having the gauges mounted against the blue metal)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644183.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644211.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644242.jpg

Gene Wilkes 08-03-2006 02:31 PM

WICKEDLY BEAUTIFUL!

CBRacerX 08-03-2006 02:34 PM

Sweet! I love the color.

911teo 08-03-2006 02:37 PM

Lowered seat rails and holes for harness eye bolts

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644343.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644363.jpg




Pedal cluster area (it's a little dusty sorry)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644410.jpg



Back seats


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644476.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644504.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644550.jpg



Quarter panel (not powder coated)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644602.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154644645.jpg

Bill Verburg 08-03-2006 03:05 PM

I love the color!

It's gonna be very nice!
:)

911teo 08-03-2006 03:08 PM

Wevo sway bar mounts detail


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154646053.jpg



Rear shock towers

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154646110.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154646134.jpg



Rear semitrailing arms pick up points

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154646181.jpg


Inside rear passenger fender (oil tank relocation)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154646420.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154646446.jpg

JeremyD 08-03-2006 03:12 PM

Dayum!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154646763.jpg

randywebb 08-03-2006 03:24 PM

OK, we have Clinton (who has surely already hit it), and Dole (who has been selling Viagra -- maybe to Clinton). So far, a nic bipartisan sexual confab...

Who is the other guy?

Craig 930 RS 08-03-2006 05:39 PM

Their pimp.

jdm61 08-03-2006 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by herman maire
Those are some craaaazzzzzy nice parts. Good to see the unfortunate wreck is not killing the dream.

I am surprised though that they could not fix youre shell, since the dammage does not look bad at all. When you consider some wrecked cars that get repaired
and repaired well at that. I Just hope the mechanic is not being a wuss by not fixing the shell and costing you more $$$. Second opinion would be a good idea but it looks like youre pretty committed your mechanic.

If you can I would really apreciate some pics of the torsion tube cut and reinforcing of that area since I am also planing on going with a G50 also.

Are you going to shorten the bell housing or just try to squeeze it in there?

Now is youre chance to change colors, so whats it going to be?

Flavah Flave say OWWWWWWW!!!!! sick,man. Why are you cutting the torque tube as opposed to using a short bell housing G50 and kevalr clutch, etc? Will that not work with the 6 speed box?

jwetering 08-03-2006 06:49 PM

Beautiful project teo - I wish I had the means ;).

disclaimer * not in any way meant to be insincere.

CBRacerX 08-03-2006 06:50 PM

Deja Vu All Over Again
 
There is no way my old project could hyjack this thread, but I have to post one or two pics since the color was similar. I media blasted (plastic) the tub after lots of work, but never got brave enough to powder coat it. Great job can't wait to see the next phase!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154659800.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154659840.jpg

DW SD 08-03-2006 07:09 PM

Sweet Matteo - you've seriously raised the bar!!!
Curious, was the powder nice enough to have coated the fenders and bumpers, etc to call the whole thing done? Can you color sand and polish powder coat?? (I know you are not a body / paint man, but someone may know the answer.)

Doug

Bryan Beaumont 08-03-2006 08:49 PM

WOW...you have raised the bar. Love it!!

jevvy 08-03-2006 11:48 PM

Keep it up fella, its looking lovley

Plesae tell me you are still comming to the UK - I have to see this car in person once its finnished.

tom1394racing 08-04-2006 03:15 AM

Matteo

The tub looks great with the powder coat!!

Can't wait to see the rest of the car going together and your first impressions upon driving it.

911teo 08-04-2006 03:51 AM

The powder coating does look nice in person. So in theory we could have done the whole thing and be done with it...

But there are some places that need to be worked on (single wiper, rear flares, bumper fitments) and I do not think you can powder coat on bondo and fillers.... but I could be wrong...

These are some more pics in daylight....

I love the color!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154692261.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154692271.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154692282.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154692296.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154692312.jpg

911teo 08-04-2006 04:14 AM

Re: Deja Vu All Over Again
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CBRacerX
There is no way my old project could hyjack this thread, but I have to post one or two pics since the color was similar. I media blasted (plastic) the tub after lots of work, but never got brave enough to powder coat it. Great job can't wait to see the next phase!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154659800.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1154659840.jpg


Chris

I'd love to see more pics of your old project. Do u have a link to a pelican thread?
What is that "tubing" on the front suspension, on the inside of front wing?

sithot 08-04-2006 05:05 AM

Powder Coating
 
Powder coating motorcycle frames has become a fairly commonplace procedure now that the UV issues have been dealt with. At one time "powder" didn't do so well in the sunlight and fading or color changing was an issue. I've used powder coating in vintage BMW motorcycle restorations with good success but there are some caveats.

The only thing that will take powder coat is JB Weld since it is a metallic based compound. I've used it on small parts that were "holed" or needed improvement due to pitting or rust.

I would never consider powder coating the exterior of a car because it will chip and you cannot touch it up very easily.

The other downside to powder coating is that it does not buff out well if you pick up a scratch here or there.

Other than that, GREAT JOB! Cannot wait to see the finished product.

Best,

Tom

CBRacerX 08-04-2006 07:37 AM

Matteo -

My project was "pre-Pelican" :) 1994 vintage. I used to have a website but brought it down years ago. But since you asked, I uploaded some of it here http://www.hope4peace.com/christianbrown/pcaracing/pca_club_racing_cars.htm

caliber60 08-04-2006 10:12 AM

Just wondering how much budget(or no budget) for this project? It must be in the six figure range?

911teo 08-04-2006 10:15 AM

It's all relative... There was a discussion 10 pages ago abt the financial aspect of it...

Put it this way... one could buy a 997 GT3 and drop $30-40k in 2 years.
I can always part it out at the end :D

quattrorunner 08-04-2006 10:23 AM

Teo,
I don't know if you have thought about this yet, but this thread has so much excitement behind it that you may be able to recoupe some of your expenses by having the car do a world tour and extra revinue for a ride in the "Blue bird":)

stv951 08-04-2006 02:35 PM

Thats truely amazing.

Imagine if the original owner of this tub could see what his car would end up like in the future when he was picking the keys at his dealer for the first time.

eimkeith 08-04-2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stv951
Thats truely amazing.

Imagine if the original owner of this tub could see what his car would end up like in the future when he was picking the keys at his dealer for the first time.

I really like the idea of that - that even an object has the potential to have a remarkable existence... (and wholly by circumstance)

- imagine what people are capable of...

jdm61 08-04-2006 06:19 PM

Great thread. I have been reading it for a couple of days and have come to the conclusion that you are TOTALLY insane, Matteo.......but in a good way...lol. That is going to be one scary 911. You have to keep us apprised of when that thing will be on the track. My family has a new biz in Charlotte, so I have an excuse to being the area. You should take that thing to the BMW rally at the factory in Spartanburg this fall and embarras the B-boys..lol.
I have decided to leave my car pretty much stock because my crusty German mechanic says that it is in such good shape that it looks like it has been in a time capsule for 20 years and I should leave it mostly original. My 2 brothers and i have said that we will eventually build a PCA racer. My middle brother, who is doing his Barber advanced race course at Lime Rock this wekend, suggested a 914. But after reading this, i am inclined to do something cool, like backdating/updating a mid to late 70's car or high mileage 915 equipped Carrera to '84 SCRS specs. Fast, but not as much welding and cutting as an RSR replica, I would think. Not as wild and expensive as the Matteo-mobile, but a cool way to spend too much money, I think. Thanks for the inspiration:D

Duckworth 08-08-2006 08:19 AM

The timetable for getting it up and running - are you lookin at a few months from now, or few weeks from now ? ? ....Anyway, you must be very excited - and it must be a real pleasure to go to sleep thinking of that car 'reborn'.

Question : as far as making an '85 car into a '74 car - is the most important thing to weld in a new TUB in order to receive the new and different registration that way ? :confused: That kinda got glossed over a bit.

And you are moving to Europe in a few months ?

That car of yours deserves to be shipped directly to Gmund Austria and share in the history there.
_____________

'80 928
'82 Targa - sold

911teo 08-08-2006 08:57 AM

Timetable:
The car is in the shop being painted. Before getting painted it needs to be totally primed and all the little inperfections need to be dealt with.
I think it will be 10-12 days before this process is finished.
The the car will return to Zuffenhaus where Keith and Aaron will put it back together. I'd say that it will take a 3 weeks for that.

So we are talking mid-end of Semptember. And yes I am really excited about the whole thing.

The car at this point will still have the 3.6 V-ram in it. I will then drive it up to Instant-G where they'll swap the 3.6 with the 3.9 and tune it.

We did not make the '88 into a '74. I bought a '74 tub. It is illegal here to tamper with the VIN numbers. Anyway there is no difference at all between a '74 and an '88 here in North Carolina as both are emission exempted as pre OBDII cars.

The move to Europe is all up in the air. We will certainly be here for another 18 months. We'll eventually move to England.. but we love NC and it is going to be a tough decision.

Kemo 08-08-2006 01:19 PM

subscribed.

Incredible job. I cant wait to see it all together.

tijnes 08-23-2006 04:55 AM

This must be the slipperiest slope I have seen so far. I was selling a '78 tub about a year ago and this was one of the replies to the ad.

I kept the tub btw but I don't think it will ever come close to this "911 74"

Great work!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1156337646.jpg

Dixie 08-23-2006 02:46 PM

Hey Teo!

Are you bringing it to the October PCA event? I'm really looking forward to seeing your car in person.

stv951 08-23-2006 11:24 PM

What happened next ?
ANY UPDATES PLEASE ????


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