Transmission to engine

[Wew]

Hi all,

I used the special too to line up the throw out bearing,flywheel and pressure plate. I am still having a heck of a time getting the transmissions and clutch to mate up to the motor. Of course I am flying solo trying this with a floor jack. Am I doing anything wrong or missing something? Other than getting another body to help? I just could get the twos to sync up.
Any pearls of wisdom would be appreciated
I am assuming the fork is supposed to sit in the middle of the grooves of the throw out bearing.
Thanksgiving
Gary
3.0 motor 915 transmission stock.

[DRACO A5OG]

Post a pic of where you are at on the mating of the two. Maybe we can see what is occurring

Yes, as you guide them together you place you finger on the fork and guide it onto the T/B then push it together and lock her up.

Both have to be absolutely straight to mate.

[Wew]

Thanks for the input. I was having technical difficulties ,hence the delay I got it as close to about the starter teeth but no farther. Just couldn't make it budge. Maybe a two person job?

[DRACO A5OG]

All looks right.

Shows when it does not want to mate, especially the fork on the T/B.

Maybe the jack is interfering with the fork being able to rotate once it starts to mate.

Jim

P.s. I do this myself all the time, I oromise yiu can do it.

[Jcslocum]

Very thin coating of grease on the splines. Clutch disc and pilot bearing my be aligned perfectly. You need to get the splines to engage properly. Rotate the shaft slightly after each try to get them in a diff position each time you try. I have had to put the trans in gear and rotate on axle flange (while holding the other) to get it to slip in. This makes it a 2 person job....

[Flat6pac]

Sometime you have to move the flywheel so the trans splines engage the clutch and let everything slide forward to close.
Bruce

[Wew]

Thanks Fellas,

Will give it another go tonight after work...
Will report back....

[OsoMoore]

It took me about half an hour doing it with the engine on a furniture dolly and a jack under the transmission. The key was to set the fork slightly angled so that it slipped into the throw-out bearing's groove exactly on. If the fork was too close in, it caught on the leading edge of the groove. Too far out, and it missed the back edge of the groove. I did a lot of peeking through the inspection hole, pulling it back apart, and tapping the fork to adjust its position slightly.

I'd bet things will be easier with a fresh start tonight. Its not that complex, but the parts are heavy and the alignment has to be exact. The sort of thing that is hard to do at the end of a long day.

[CCM911]

What he said. I always rotate the spline a hair after each unsuccessful attempt.

Originally Posted by Jcslocum

Very thin coating of grease on the splines. Clutch disc and pilot bearing my be aligned perfectly. You need to get the splines to engage properly. Rotate the shaft slightly after each try to get them in a diff position each time you try. I have had to put the trans in gear and rotate on axle flange (while holding the other) to get it to slip in. This makes it a 2 person job....

[DRACO A5OG]

Wow, I got lucky. never had to rotate the splines to fit, but it makes total sense

It will get done tonight

[Discseven]

Wew... am agreeing on splines not aligning. Grab transaxle flange and rotate it back and fourth slightly while mating. Assuming trans is in gear, this will rotate gear box splines and they fall into place.

[Walt Fricke]

This shouldn't be that much of a problem if you are mating the two basically on the floor of your garage. With the starter off you have a great view of where the clutch fork slides into the groove in the TOB. You can get the two close enough together to rest the fork ends on the outer (closest to the transmission) rim of the TOB, which is a smaller diameter than the inner one. A little push more, and the fork ends should bump into the inner rim and slide of its own accord into the groove.

And you can really see when you have the fork all wrong - bumping into the diaphragm spring, or flopping around the outer end of the TOB.

Usually takes me several tries to do this with the transmission already in the car (which means I can't see what is going on), turning the vertical shaft by hand and trying to feel where things are. So when I've had transmission and engine both out it seems like it has been duck soup.

[yelcab1]

place engine on a platform that does not move
place tranny on a jack
Move tranny onto the first long engine stud
Push tranny toward engine until it is 1.5 inches home
engage TO bearing to fork
use jack under the tranny to align tranny to engine such that the gap is the same top to bottom
stand over the gear box facing the engine, grab both axle flanges, turn both forward as you push the tranny home.
One you feel the gear box slip home, you are there
Finish the last half inch with the four nuts

Make sure the splines are well lubed. Make sure the fork engages the TO bearing

If it takes longer than 10 minutes, you are doing something wrong.

[NoYouRelax]

I was able to do this by myself as well, and remember peaking at the fork placement as I walked it on. An RV stand worked great to set the positions. I also remember moving/rotating the axle to let the spline mate.

I usually do P car work by myself as to not subject other to the flying F bombs and well you get it..... Soon it will be just me, my dog, a propane heater, and loud classic rock, as winter sets in.

[mreid]

I've done this by myself several times. Did you ensure that the clutch disk fits the tranny splines before installation? It is a tight fit. The way I do it is to push it in as far as you can and then with pressure on the tranny, slightly rotate the engine using the fan pulley. Usually slides right into place.

You also have too much grease on the TOB fork flange. You do not want that grease finding its way onto the disk. Just a very thin coating is all that is required. Good luck!

[Wew]

Thanks gents. A little spline moving and some finessing she snapped in. Definitely a tough one man job, at least for me. Thanks for all the advice. Much appreciated. Next is the installs. It's been a long road, since March, but in that time frame we have a totally rebuilt motor, transmission, rear end (front end was done last year). I am sure I will have my struggles with the install but very excited about being this close. Other than paint we got ourselves an almost 100% restored car. Woo hoo. Thanks again. Could have never made it this far without the support of everyone on this forum. Special shout out to Tony and Dennis .