The body positivity movement.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by asphaltgambler

Going to the local Wegmans or other places like that near me, can't help but notice young teens / early 20's girls who seem to all have 'pouches' above their belt line. Even ones that are in proportion. Can't help to think that young girls in the 70's / 80's would not have that. I'm old, I remember.

That's because those girls were all secretly bulimic, or anorexic, or popping speed.

[masraum]

About 15 years ago, I had a colleague that was very close to the sponsor family that he had done foreign exchange with in France.

Per him, they had always been a healthy sort of thin, not fat or chubby. They went on an 8 week vacation to the US, and he saw them at the end of the vaca. He said they were all chubby after having been in the US for 2 months eating our food.

I have no doubt that the quality of the food that we eat is mostly crap, too much premade, fast/instant food that's full of crap besides food.

Hell, when I got out of college and was living on my own in an apt, I saw some Wonder Bread in a store, and on a whim, I bought it. I remembered when I was a kid in the 70s seeing commercials for Wonder Bread that made me want it, but my mom never bought it for me.

I got the bread home and made a sandwich or two out of it, but it was bad. I didn't like it. I let it sit on the top of the refrigerator for about 2 months. At the end of the two months, it was not only still soft, but also had no mold growing on it. I figure it's got to be bad when mold won't even eat it.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by masraum

I figure it's got to be bad when mold won't even eat it.

You know that the GMO grains are designed to bloat up an insect's stomach so big that it actually explodes, right?

Round-Up/glyphosate...............every new study I read about it convinces me more that it's the culprit for so many health ills sweeping the country in an epidemic like fashion.

Autism and Round-Up/glyphosate..............not a "lifestyle" choice either.

December 30, 2014
Roundup in our food glyphosate and disease: autism, diabetes, Alzheimer’s, diabetes, gmo, intestinal gut…
https://biomeonboardawareness.com/roundup-in-our-food-glyphosate-and-disease-autism-diabetes-alzheimers-diabetes-gmo-intestinal-gut/











I just saw a TV commercial for Smirnoff Vodka claiming it's now made with GMO free grains.

Apparently awareness is going mainstream.

I would not be surprised about this becoming a major platform issue for a few candidates running in 2020.

Monsanto is going to be pissed, and they will not go down without a fight.

They are killing us.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Yes you need to exercise, most of my physical transformation did not happen until 3-1/2 years ago when I started exercising nearly everyday.

Sounds to me like you went low-carb and started exercising. Basically the Atkins diet.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by masraum

About 15 years ago, I had a colleague that was very close to the sponsor family that he had done foreign exchange with in France.

Per him, they had always been a healthy sort of thin, not fat or chubby. They went on an 8 week vacation to the US, and he saw them at the end of the vaca. He said they were all chubby after having been in the US for 2 months eating our food.

I have no doubt that the quality of the food that we eat is mostly crap, too much premade, fast/instant food that's full of crap besides food.

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Portion size in most restaurants is another factor. I am a pig, an I like to eat. Most meals at a restaurant I eat 1/2 of the meal and take the rest home for leftovers.

We had some friends visit us that were from Spain, on their road trip across the USA. They asked us to take them to a local restaurant that was we thought of as American food. We went to a local owned place and we helped them all order something different. The brought out the first plate and put it in front of the mom, and the family figured that was whet they would split. They were astonished at the portion size as each person got a huge plate of food. They all ate until they were stuffed, and had lots left. Hard to use leftovers on a road trip.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Honestly I go to the UK frequently, I don't find the food there any more healthy or the people any more slim. Except for the accents it's not much different than the USA. Maybe it's because I rarely eat fast food so I'm more accustomed to eating at quality restaurants?

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Honestly I go to the UK frequently, I don't find the food there any more healthy or the people any more slim. Except for the accents it's not much different than the USA. Maybe it's because I rarely eat fast food so I'm more accustomed to eating at quality restaurants?

My first few trips to the UK I was always hungry. I just didn't find the food appealing. Breakfast was appalling but for lunch a ploughman platter was OK. No wonder Indian food is so popular there.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

My first few trips to the UK I was always hungry. I just didn't find the food appealing. Breakfast was appalling but for lunch a ploughman platter was OK. No wonder Indian food is so popular there.

Also a good point, generally speaking I think their food and beer sucks. I have had some decent food and beer, but nothing that I felt was really amazing. When you are most well known for fried fish and french fries, that's not a good start.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by masraum

Hell, when I got out of college and was living on my own in an apt, I saw some Wonder Bread in a store, and on a whim, I bought it. I remembered when I was a kid in the 70s seeing commercials for Wonder Bread that made me want it, but my mom never bought it for me.

I got the bread home and made a sandwich or two out of it, but it was bad. I didn't like it. I let it sit on the top of the refrigerator for about 2 months. At the end of the two months, it was not only still soft, but also had no mold growing on it. I figure it's got to be bad when mold won't even eat it.

That reminds me of when I was a bachelor, I left some yogurt in the fridge so long it came to life. I taught it to sing opera, talk about culture.

I also grew my own bathmat.
ba da bump.


If the people from frogville got heavier eating the US food, wouldn't that mean our food was BETTER so they ate MORE of it?

[gordner]

You really think your food is better than that in Europe, quality wise?

Portioning is a huge difference in the states for sure, eating out there as I do when I am in on business, I never finish a meal, ever. Restaurants provide a ridiculous amount of food in a "serving", that absolutely has something to do with it. That and an overly sedentary life style, and crappy, over processed foods.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by Moses

Glyphosphate? Hi fructose corn syrup? Maybe. But it doesn’t matter, does it?

A few years ago when my doctor who is also one of my best friends told me I needed to lose 20 pounds I reminded him that I really didn’t eat very much. His response? “ I didn’t say you ate a lot. I said you ate too much “

Of course he was absolutely correct.

I eat about the same but don't eat as much processed food and limit HFCS (processed through the liver unlike regular CS) and dropped 20 pounds. It isn't always how much, but also what.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by gordner

You really think your food is better than that in Europe, quality wise?

Portioning is a huge difference in the states for sure, eating out there as I do when I am in on business, I never finish a meal, ever. Restaurants provide a ridiculous amount of food in a "serving", that absolutely has something to do with it. That and an overly sedentary life style, and crappy, over processed foods.

We've got the world famous tommy burger. FTW.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by masraum

About 15 years ago, I had a colleague that was very close to the sponsor family that he had done foreign exchange with in France.

Per him, they had always been a healthy sort of thin, not fat or chubby. They went on an 8 week vacation to the US, and he saw them at the end of the vaca. He said they were all chubby after having been in the US for 2 months eating our food.

I have no doubt that the quality of the food that we eat is mostly crap, too much premade, fast/instant food that's full of crap besides food.

Hell, when I got out of college and was living on my own in an apt, I saw some Wonder Bread in a store, and on a whim, I bought it. I remembered when I was a kid in the 70s seeing commercials for Wonder Bread that made me want it, but my mom never bought it for me.

I got the bread home and made a sandwich or two out of it, but it was bad. I didn't like it. I let it sit on the top of the refrigerator for about 2 months. At the end of the two months, it was not only still soft, but also had no mold growing on it. I figure it's got to be bad when mold won't even eat it.

Our portion sizes are huge compared to other places. I know the local prime rib joint the petite size is 8oz.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by kach22i

You know that the GMO grains are designed to bloat up an insect's stomach so big that it actually explodes, right?

Round-Up/glyphosate...............every new study I read about it convinces me more that it's the culprit for so many health ills sweeping the country in an epidemic like fashion.

Autism and Round-Up/glyphosate..............not a "lifestyle" choice either.

December 30, 2014
Roundup in our food glyphosate and disease: autism, diabetes, Alzheimer’s, diabetes, gmo, intestinal gut…
https://biomeonboardawareness.com/roundup-in-our-food-glyphosate-and-disease-autism-diabetes-alzheimers-diabetes-gmo-intestinal-gut/











I just saw a TV commercial for Smirnoff Vodka claiming it's now made with GMO free grains.

Apparently awareness is going mainstream.

I would not be surprised about this becoming a major platform issue for a few candidates running in 2020.

Monsanto is going to be pissed, and they will not go down without a fight.

They are killing us.

Artificial sweeteners also disrupt our gut fauna and can cause weight gain. There was an article in Arstechnica a couple years ago about it. Have you ever tried to find gum without artificial sweeteners?

[MikeSid]

There are plenty of organic options readily available that pretty much eliminates the argument that we are being poisoned into obesity by our food supply.

There are plenty of great restaurants where the portion size is not overly large. Step away from the Applebee's of this world.

There is a lot of healthy food available in the USA. You just have to choose it. I often don't but I'm not blaming anyone when I make that choice.

Eating well can be expensive. That is probably the biggest contribution to obesity in America. There are plenty of cheap carb options that feed poorer families. But try to feed a family of 4 by shopping at Whole Foods and you'll understand why a lot of folk willingly choose cheap carbs and Flintstone vitamins.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by MikeSid

There are plenty of organic options readily available that pretty much eliminates the argument that we are being poisoned into obesity by our food supply.

There are plenty of great restaurants where the portion size is not overly large. Step away from the Applebee's of this world.

There is a lot of healthy food available in the USA. You just have to choose it. I often don't but I'm not blaming anyone when I make that choice.

Eating well can be expensive. That is probably the biggest contribution to obesity in America. There are plenty of cheap carb options that feed poorer families. But try to feed a family of 4 by shopping at Whole Foods and you'll understand why a lot of folk willingly choose cheap carbs and Flintstone vitamins.

Also true, I eat a lot better now that I have a good job and money in the bank. McDonald's is cheap!

[flipper35]

We get a lot of lean meat by hunting. Have our own small garden for fresh produce. You can save with some work.

(The rifles we would have either way, we like to shoot)

[Gogar]

It is true that the cheapest, easiest food in American supermarkets is pretty bad for you. And, it's delicious and intentionally addictive through the miracle of science.

It's difficult to teach your body to not want that stuff if you've been in there for a while. And expensive.

[speeder]

I try to eat less and avoid eating crap. Make sure to enjoy your time here on earth.

This Rib eye sandwich I’m eating at the moment outdoors at the Malibu Country Mart is hitting the spot.

[stuartj]

Sorry Kach. The biggest contributor to this is issue from the pesticides and additives to modern processed food is that these things make modern processed food possible.

Moses is on the money. The post WW2 economic boom saw the first generation in the US that had access to cheap high calorie food, a model that was soon exported around the world. Every Western nation has the same issue, the US was a generation ahead. It was in the US in the early 70s that medicos started reporting "age on-set diabetes" in children - now a Western plague and rising fast in China and India.

Too much of the wrong food, too often- plus the increasingly sedentary lifestyles. That data is in. But anecdotally, find a streetscape picture from the 50s or 60s of the city you live in which is full of people, and compare them to the same scene today. Its astounding.

We know have people having their stomachs mostly removed in attempts to control their eating. But there were no fat bastards in Changi.