The 911 Market

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by javadog

Somebody spent way too much money restoring that car. It doesn’t take that kind of dough to restore one to that standard.

$40,000 for paint? $37,000 for an engine and tranny build?

Scott mentioned Wilhoit and that would have been a good call. I think a Porsche AG factory rebuild might even come in under that, but what do I know?

Anyone remember the original, what was it, a '73S that had less than 400 (maybe it was 700) miles on it sitting on a trailer at the German Autofest in Ventura? What would that 'bring' today?

[GothingNC]

Road Scholars charges a minimum $40K for paint and will only perform a full restoration. Wait list time is three years now.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by GothingNC

Road Scholars charges a minimum $40K for paint and will only perform a full restoration. Wait list time is three years now.

I wish I could work for free on their floor for two years only running coffee to these guys. Just to watch.

https://roadscholars.com/

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I see toy prices increasing throughout the year.

The buyer of that 912 must've been a charter member of the 'More-Money-Than-Brains' club.

At the rate these vintage Porsches are appreciating, even a sad case like this might be bringing six figures in the not-too-distant-future

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Like this one

Rusted Out Barn Find Porsche Sells For Ludicrous Price

[ckissick]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

I'd say it depends on a number of things.
Is it all original paint?
Is it matching numbers engine/trans?
Is it rusty?
Has the engine ever been rebuilt?
If so, by whom?
Are the suspension bushings all original?

I'd say the $35k Shaun quoted is for a driver quality entry level car now days.
Check out the comments on the 912BBS where BAT cars have been talked about.

It will be all original parts and numbers matching with no rust when done. Engine rebuilt by Tom Amon of Mobileworks West. It will have a new polo red paint job. All new bushings and wiring. The works. It's an early '66 with 4-screw horn grills. I see plenty of asking prices for nice 912s of about $60K. But now, maybe more. Are two extra cylinders really worth over $350K? And 912s handle better!

[pmax]

Not a 911 but ...

[pmax]

Originally Posted by ckissick

So how much is a well sorted '65/'66 912 worth?

[aigel]

Unbelievable. I would not buy that car if it was 30k. YAWN!

BAT is crazy. Too many guys sitting at home bored getting into wallet racing. They added BAT shipping now too, so all you need to do is sit on a computer and buy your next toy to arrive a week later.

The Euro is going up ... or shall I say the dollar is going down ... that makes a difference. Also, in Europe negative interest is already happening. They don't call it that but your bank will charge you a fee proportional to your balance. Talking to folks, it looks to be about .5% per year currently.

In the US, unfortunately, like I have mentioned in other "this is crazy expensive" threads, such as housing, there is a ton of "I don't care" money around from stock, real estate, inheritance and not spending anything during a pandemic etc. and people love to buy tangible assets. I mean, would you rather buy a collector's car or bitcoin, which has zero intrinsic value? If the 911 market crashes, at least you still have a car to go drive and look at in your garage. I admit, I have "overpaid" for tangible items recently.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

For many people, $427,000 to is us is the same as $4.27. Would you buy that car for $4.27?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Zeke

$40,000 for paint? $37,000 for an engine and tranny build?

Those are two of the most realistic numbers in the build sheet for this car.

[sc_rufctr]

How much is a nice 73 RS worth? Can you even find a decent one for less than 7 figures?

Good looking car... Great color and the soft window option makes it rare.
If you looked after it, it will only go one way in value so IMO it's worth every penny.

[sugarwood]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1081690-clueless-car-guys-if-you-dont-value-cars-exactly-like-i-do-then-you-sucker.html

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/1081690-clueless-car-guys-if-you-dont-value-cars-exactly-like-i-do-then-you-sucker.html

Thank you for re-posting that!

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

For many people, $427,000 to is us is the same as $4.27. Would you buy that car for $4.27?

Hell I’d give $5!

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by ckissick

How is that price possible?

Also, what's this?

Post #2476
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1065287-2020-new-random-pics-124.html#post11151638

Originally Posted by kach22i

https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?64856-The-Ultimate-Webasto-Gas-Heater-Thread-(Photos-parts-sources-trades)/page5


https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?64856-The-Ultimate-Webasto-Gas-Heater-Thread-(Photos-parts-sources-trades)/page4


https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?64856-The-Ultimate-Webasto-Gas-Heater-Thread-(Photos-parts-sources-trades)/page9

[Aurel]

For that kind of money, I would much rather have a Singer.

[GG Allin]

A guy I know bought a 67 S Soft Window Targa in around 2002 for $14K. Sold it in '07 for around $45K. He thought HE did well.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Zeke

$40,000 for paint? $37,000 for an engine and tranny build?

Scott mentioned Wilhoit and that would have been a good call. I think a Porsche AG factory rebuild might even come in under that, but what do I know?

Why not $100000 ?

There’s really no rationale to the pricing given it’s driven by what the buyer can bear.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by pmax

Why not $100000 ?

There’s really no rationale to the pricing given it’s driven by what the buyer can bear.

The point is that apparently that was for paint — only. Metal finishing is somewhere else on that cost sheet. Perhaps the Porsche dealer.

However, after doing the math, I realize that $40K only pays for 400 hours at a lowly rate of 100/hr and no materials, so I concede on that.

I know, because I've painted a few and it takes forever. Especially if you're painting everything inside and out. It would take one worker a 40 hr week just to install all the glass, trim and bumpers. Make that a week for 2 workers for installing the panels as well.

It adds up fast.

I really should get back in the game and make the RH windshield wiper nut. Probably a hundred dollar item, eh?

2 for $150. Come and get 'em. The line starts at the door.

And WTH is a "square lip exhaust tip?" Indeed, polished at that. How much did that little item run? I'll say this: you won't find that on Google.