Vaccines are moving the needle...

[Steve Carlton]

I don't think that's the problem there, but thanks for deflecting.

As far as I'm concerned in that situation, the unvaccinated patients can go in the hallway.

From the link you didn't read:

Crisis care standards mean that scarce resources such as ICU beds will be allotted to the patients most likely to survive. Other patients will be treated with less effective methods or, in dire cases, given pain relief and other palliative care.

[island911]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

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As far as I'm concerned in that situation, the unvaccinated patients can go in the hallway.

[Steve Carlton]

^ that’s awesome!

[upsscott]

Originally Posted by island911

Yes, I hate voluntary stupidity.

[pavulon]

My employer just moved to the second of 4 reduced services phases. There are no beds available now. So, if you need a surgery that is not an emergency and requires admission for recovery, don't call us, we'll call you.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by island911

Disrupting supply of a proven therapeutic, one gotta wonder how this is happening.

[island911]

"The unvax'd must be denied care - it's for their own good."

paraphrasing.

[Steve Carlton]

Good news- the livestock store now has a drive-through.

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by pmax

Disrupting supply of a proven therapeutic, one gotta wonder how this is happening.

Couldn't be that demand has exceeded manufacturing capacity. Nah, there's a conspiracy by big Pharma in there somewhere and surely its motivation is political. Expect a quote of piercing insight from nutcon.com any moment now.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by pavulon

Couldn't be that demand has exceeded manufacturing capacity. Nah, there's a conspiracy by big Pharma in there somewhere and surely its motivation is political. Expect a quote of piercing insight from nutcon.com any moment now.

This is the best I can find on supply and demand. Data ends 8/18. I do know that both supply and demand have increased since 8/18.

On July 1st treatments supplied were about 10% of cases and had grown to 20% by 8/18.

In that same time frame, 6/30 -8/18, the highest use states used the following. Approximate %.

I realize these 5 had high rates of infection and would logically order as much as they possible could. They did order a very high percentage of total doses available. Supply during that time frame went from about 10% to a peak of 20% of total national cases. If that same trend continued (unknown) I can see why limitation have been put in place.
Based on what Regeneron reports the restrictions will probably last until 4th quarter when the "vast majority " of the latest purchase will be shipped.

If anyone has more recent data I would gladly do a similar workup.

Florida 670,000 cases and 125,000 doses.or 18.7%
Texas 400,000 and 94,000 or 23.5%
Louisiana 161,000 and 60,000 or 37%
Mississippi 78,000 and 56,000 or 72%
Alabama 62,000 and 37,000 or 60%

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-02/u-s-shipping-enough-monoclonals-to-treat-1-in-5-covid-cases




https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/regeneron-announces-new-us-government-agreement-to-purchase-additional-doses-of-regen-cov-casirivimab-and-imdevimab-antibody-cocktail-301376898.html

Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (NASDAQ: REGN) today announced that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Department of Defense (DOD) will purchase 1.4 million additional doses of REGEN-COV (casirivimab and imdevimab). The government will continue to provide REGEN-COV at no cost to patients.

Under the new agreement, Regeneron will supply an additional 1.4 million 1,200 mg doses of REGEN-COV to the U.S. government by January 31, 2022, at a cost of $2,100 per dose. This new agreement follows two earlier agreements with the U.S. government announced in July 2020 and January 2021.

Regeneron expects to begin delivering the additional REGEN-COV doses to the U.S. government in September, with the vast majority delivered in Q4 2021. Regeneron will record all net sales associated with this agreement. Pursuant to a prior agreement, Roche will manufacture approximately one third of the doses for Regeneron to fulfill this new agreement with the U.S. government.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by pavulon

Couldn't be that demand has exceeded manufacturing capacity. Nah, there's a conspiracy by big Pharma in there somewhere and surely its motivation is political. Expect a quote of piercing insight from nutcon.com any moment now.

The gaslighting is telling.

That infusion center's closing up due to the HHS "changing the distribution process". Read it.

Sorry if the facts bother you but why are you so worked up ?

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by pmax

The gaslighting is telling.

That infusion center's closing up due to the HHS "changing the distribution process". Read it.

Sorry if the facts bother you but why are you so worked up ?

gaslighting? worked up? Your imagination is uh, vivid.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by pavulon

gaslighting? worked up? Your imagination is uh, vivid.

See, isn't that better ?

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

This is the best I can find on supply and demand. Data ends 8/18. I do know that both supply and demand have increased since 8/18.

If there's an imbalance, gotta wonder why after spending 3T or more and 9 months, the country can't produce enough for everyone.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by pmax

If there's an imbalance, gotta wonder why after spending 3T or more and 9 months, the country can't produce enough for everyone.

Apparently the manufacturing process is difficult since they are charging $2100 a treatment. It is not easy to go from zero production to max.

At that price I wouldn't think that Regeneron is dragging their feet.

[john70t]

2,100 x 350,000,000 = $735,000,000,000
That's a lot of dividends!!

It's nice that the government is paying for all of this medicine..for free..
But yet the most vulnerable POC are being denied treatment.
(um what happened to those values)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/40-illegal-aliens-bused-texas-city-test-positive-covid-19/
The city of Laredo, Texas, has refused to take in migrants who have been bused in from elsewhere on the border after discovering 40% of them tested positive for the coronavirus, according to two local government officials.

[Sooner or later]

You have 3 too many zeros in your calc.

And the actual purchase is 3 million doses.

[Steve Carlton]

So $6,300,000,000 then.

[john70t]

I fixed the zeros missing from the calculation.

3 million doses for 350 million people? How does that work? That barely covers 'undocumented' immigrants.

Only slightly more expensive than masks.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-gov-newsom-wont-share-details-on-1b-mask-deal-with-china

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

So $6,300,000,000 then.

A boatload. There are other monoclonal treatments that have been EUA.

I believe Sotrovimab and Actemra. One was dropped but I believe those two are still approved. I believe the US has agreed to purchase at least a million treatments of those. States can purchase if there is supply available. Florida has mentioned that as a possibility.