A/T tires ... Noisy?

[aigel]

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap

ON A RAV4?????

that's insane.

+1 - anything will be noisy on that!

[aigel]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

I believe the ko2 is the updated version of the bfg all terrain.

+1

I have had these on Excursion, Sequoia, Ram 1500, all 4x4 including a camper on the Ram. They do well for what I use them for (travel to the outdoor spot and then drive in the dirt, mud, gravel, rocky bits). They hold up for many miles too. At least 60k, I did 75k on the Ram's last set. On the Ram I'd buy the E range which seemed to help long life due to stiffness. Have I mentioned, also great in snow.

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[ckelly78z]

I have had really good luck with General Grabbers A/T....long life, low noise, and good all season grip. There are many pickup trucks going past my house that you can hear coming, and going for 1/2 mile. I would like to ask them what brand, and model tires they bought so I don't make the same mistake.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap

ON A RAV4?????

that's insane.

Why? It's AWD and quite capable in snow without the KO2's. With the KO2's it's even better! Dont' get me wrong here, I think they're overkill for the driving my son does. But for the way I used the RAV, they would have been a perfect match. It was my "well the deer is down in the woods and I ain't draggin that thing 1/4 mile back to the truck" vehicle before I bought a UTV. It was really too nice to use for that anyhow but still. It took that thing across some fields with some pretty deep snow and across fields with standing water and never got it stuck. The Rav isn't a Subie but it's pretty off road capable.

Originally Posted by aigel

+1 - anything will be noisy on that!

They definitely aren't the best vehicle for sound deadening but the POS Yokahama's that came on it and the Firestones I put on it were fairly quiet in the cab. The Ko2 have a lot of road noise.

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

I have had really good luck with General Grabbers A/T....long life, low noise, and good all season grip. There are many pickup trucks going past my house that you can hear coming, and going for 1/2 mile. I would like to ask them what brand, and model tires they bought so I don't make the same mistake.

Probably Nitto Grapplers. Those things can be loud but they look really cool.

As for grip, yeah the Grabbers do well right up until you bury the truck to the axles. Then you need a friend in a Jeep to come pull you out. Not that anything like that happened to me... but it's what I've heard from other people.

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Why?
As for grip, yeah the Grabbers do well right up until you burry the truck to the axles. Then you need a friend in a Jeep to come pull you out. Not that anything like that happened to me... but it's what I've heard from other people.

Mud season doesn't count, nothing does well with a 7000# truck, although I have the K02s on my 8100# diesel Excursion, and like them, but will replace them with Generals when the time comes.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by ckelly78z

Mud season doesn't count, nothing does well with a 7000# truck, although I have the K02s on my 8100# diesel Excursion, and like them, but will replace them with Generals when the time comes.

I was on snow... until I wasn't anymore. Man was it embarrassing having my friend pull my F250 out with his Jeep. Worst part is, when we got to solid ground he kept going. Once he stopped he said I didn't want you to get stuck again! Honestly I could have hit the brakes and stopped him but I figure he felt good about is Jeep pulling my truck out so I let him have the win. And it wasn't really the fault of the tires or even really dropping through the snow to mud. It was the trailer behind me with my side by side on it that got me hung.

[Tim Hancock]

On my '08 Cayenne I had Pirelli Scorpions which became fairly noisy as they wore. I replaced with Nokian zLine A/S SUV tires which I have been much happier with. They have maybe 40%-50% tread left now several years later. They still seem quieter than the Scorpions they replaced. I have 18's on the '08 Cayenne, but the Nokians come in 19's also.

My Tundra now has 20" Hankook Dynapro AT2 tires which have a bit of an offroad look to them. They would look silly on an SUV like a Cayenne IMO. They have been great so far on the Tundra after maybe 10,000 miles and are not too noisy, but not sure how noisy they will be when they get worn down to less than 50%.

[berettafan]

Have found AT tires, particularly in LT sizing, to become noisy to a point that i'd prefer a good ol' Michelin LTX AT.

This is one of those things where you've got to be honest with yourself about intended use.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by matthewb0051

We've been using highway type tires but I'm considering All Terrain tires. Specifically Continental Terrain Contact, Yokohama Geolander AT G015, BFG Trail Terrain TA, or Falken Wildpeak A/T trail.

Does anyone have experience with any of these? How does the noise level differ if at all from highway tires? I can't justify buying tires every 18 months so I need to get this right.

I can't tell you for an SUV but I can for my F250 truck. It came with A/T tires, Goodyear Wrangler. They were loud. Lots of road noise.

I switched them to my preferred LTX tire, Michelin Defender LTX. It is a "highway" tire. I get maybe 3 years/30,000 miles from them. But they are about 1 mpg better mileage and they are much quieter.

[vash]

i have the Coopers. kinda rumbly. mostly on deceleration.

but yea, AT are more noisy.

[vash]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I can't tell you for an SUV but I can for my F250 truck. It came with A/T tires, Goodyear Wrangler. They were loud. Lots of road noise.

I switched them to my preferred LTX tire, Michelin Defender LTX. It is a "highway" tire. I get maybe 3 years/30,000 miles from them. But they are about 1 mpg better mileage and they are much quieter.

the LTX M/S is the best tire i have ever had. i had the only vehicle that could go up a snowy driveway at some condo we rented in Tahoe. in 4hi. i would just "brrrrrr" up the hill with little tire slip. i ended up being the luggage shuttle for our group. this tire was constantly sold out, early Covid. i dont think they ever went back to Costco.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by vash

i have the Coopers. kinda rumbly. mostly on deceleration.

but yea, AT are more noisy.

Just do what my son did. Add two 10" subwoofers in the back, some high power door speakers and some ridiculous door tweeters. You'll hardly even notice the tire noise. I think the name "Skar audio" is such because the stuff will scar your eardrums.

[IROC]

Originally Posted by berettafan

This is one of those things where you've got to be honest with yourself about intended use.

^^This. And...if you go with all terrain tires, rotate them every 5k miles. I have 16k miles on my current set of Goodyear Duratracs (an aggressive all terrain known to be noisy) and they are still very quiet. I got 50k miles out of the last set - Falken Wildpeak ATs - and they were very quiet even at 50k.

Quiet is relative, though.

[LWJ]

KO2's on my landcruiser.


Traction is great.

Rip up snowy roads for skiing.
Bounce down dirt tracks for fishing.
And...shocker of shocker. I looked down at the speedo two years ago on a Montana fish trip and said to my son "did you know that this truck can do 95 mph?"

Wear is great.

And, the don't seem loud at all.

Count me a fan.

[Black968]

Off Road tires are noisy and the mileage is TERRIBLE. These things can add as much as 10% in operating fuel costs. I put 20" Michelin Defender LTX's on my 1/2 ton, they are not cheap but worth every penny.

[NutmegCarrera]

Here is my kid’s 4Runner with Yokohama Geolander A/T’s.

These are nice and quiet on road. Have not completely proven their mettle off road (aside from some pretty tame trails in public hunting land).

They ride really nice - along with all the ‘light resto’ work we did when he got the truck. New Bilstein 5800 shocks all around, sway bushings, replaced fuel tank straps, replaced C/V shafts up front, did some cosmetic stuff, along with basic air filter, cabin filter and oil change type work.
Probably will be doing accessory (fan) belt and idler/tensioners in the spring along with plugs, Diff, Transfer Case and Transmission fluid.

Doesn’t look bad for 15 years old and 225k, eh?




In comparison-
Wifey’s Q7 tends to eat tires. I think the fact that she drives it like a Honda Civic probably is not helpful. We get 25k to 30k out of a set.
The last couple sets have been Pirelli Scorpion A/T - and have been decent tire.
We have Goodyear Eagle Sport all season tires on it now - and those are really noisy. Not a tread based noise, but it seems like they must have quite a stiff sidewall - they seem to transmit a ‘spring’ sound over expansion joints and potholes. They were a little less expensive - and I figured I would give them a shot.
That vehicle has a pretty unique tire size. They’re 19’s and quite wide.
I have also realized that brakes on that vehicle are monsters. I just did the rears for the second time. The fronts have been done once. Parts alone are nearly $700 for all four wheels.

[matthewb0051]

Originally Posted by A930Rocket

I like the look of the AT’s, but a lot of my driving is highway, so a quiet ride was high on my list. .

Originally Posted by berettafan

This is one of those things where you've got to be honest with yourself about intended use.

It is partially a looks thing for me. But the last 2 sets of light truck/highway have not lasted long so I'm also open to a change

Originally Posted by IROC

Quiet is relative, though.

Exactly what I was thinking. When you look at the Discount or Tire Rack reviews the A/T's have pretty good reviews for ride comfort and noise. But in comparison to what???

When I drive into the city I usually hear some guy in a lifted truck coming well before he gets to me and well after he passes. I know exactly what to look for as he gets close. Usually much more aggressive tires than what I'm considering.

[cabmandone]

The "looks" is exactly why my son wanted the K02's on his Rav. As long as your good about tire rotation and willing to accept a little dip in fuel mileage versus all season tires. Go for what you like!

[matthewb0051]

^^^
The overland look is very popular around here. I'm pretty sure most of them only go to and from work though. Ditto for pickup trucks for people living in apartments but don't have a ranch or farm.

[cabmandone]

I'll post a few pics of my son's Rav after we ruggedized it. I don't have any before pics but it was definitely not a cool looking ride. The tires made a difference but the paint on the wheels, some blackout vinyl on the headlights and taillights, and a bull bar up front really set it off. We just need to do some work with the door handles and mirror fronts to color match those to the wheels and the thing will look good.