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I never really thought about it, but my 914 and the 911 both have gas pedals that are hinged at the bottom. I think I heel and toe with the heel of my foot on the gas pedal and the ball of my foot on the brakes. Pressing on the bottom of the pedal takes more pressure, but I truly don't even think about it, my foot knows what to do. Much like using a mouse, my hand seems to know when to left click or right click or whatever is needed. It is not a conscious thought.
I don't think I have ever driven a car with a clutch that has pedals that hang down from above like most cars when trying to heel and toe. I have driven a Miata, and a Mini Cooper that were manuals, but I was not heel and toeing and rev matching. The pickup truck I used recently is a manual, but for sure no heel and toe.
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Yep, my accelerators are hinged from the floor. The 928 even is adjustable depth wise for where the pedal is hinged. My heel stays in the same place whether I am operating the gas or brake. This keeps the big clumbsy thigh muscle from getting involved. Since my foot is on the right edge of the brake when operating the brake, rocking my foot right operates the accelerator pedal with the entire right edge of my foot. And again having my heel anchored to one point on the floor lets me modulate the brake pedal with much more accuracy than if my heel was floating above the floor ready to hit the bottom hinged area of the gas pedal. I maintain the brake pedal force defined by my heel and left side of my foot on the brakes while rocking my foot to the right to blip the throttle. I don't know any better how to explain it.
My throttle is adjusted as far towards the seat as I can adjust it without applying both throttle and brake at the same time. It is also far enough towards the seat I just rock my foot a little to the right to apply throttle while braking. It is adjusted to where the brake and throttle pedals are basically even when applying the brakes in earnest. Farther away from the seat and it would be more difficult to blip the throttle even with the brake pedal fully depressed.
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The Cobra is hinged on the top for the brake and clutch and the the gas is from the top/side sort of. Id does not have power assist so keeping constant pressure on the brake while hinging at the ankle isn't that hard. I can see where it might be with power assisted brakes.
You could also do the ball on the brake and heel on the gas like the Bondurant guys.
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I learned heel and toe like Senna..
Even wore the same kind of shoes. Understood that this was better for brake modulation. At least that is what I learned from my Bondurant Books. Guess have to see if I can do the swivel the heel to the accelerator thing and still maintain brake control. If you see me driving around in the 928 and are behind me, leave plenty of room please. I may be very erratic on the brakes. Probably need to wear my helmet to protect my forehead!
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That is how I prefer to do it as well. I was just thinking of different ways you could try other than the preferred way. You wanted something to concentrate hard on, right?
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Nobody ride my rear bumper!!!
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If you can't do the foot rotate, then give it a try, but I find I can only pull this off for my body dimensions when the brake pedal is farther down than I would want to encounter on the street. |
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I test drove two C5 Z06's today. Really liked it except the seats, gonna have to track down something nice from the aftermarket before I can buy.
One of the cars was rough, clutch, engine, gearbox, alignment, cosmetic flaws. I hadn't even got past the drive way and into the street and I already wasn't liking the car. Shortest test drive I've ever done. The other one though, vhroooom! It amazes me how the fit of different body panels on the C5 is so inconsistent even on a good one. The 944 carries nice even body lines around the car, the C5 has some parts jammed in with no spacing, and then large gaps in other places. I think I can look past that with how it drives. |
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Can't drive Corvettes. The seats give me Golf Balls, term from actor Hugh Grant explained during his guest appearance on Top Gear. The seats pinch nerves causing butt pain and foot and leg numbness while driving and foot pain that wakes me in the night. One of the reasons I drive Porsche. In fact, the only other pain free vehicles were Volvo, and BMWs if the BMWs have the sport seats.
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I guess you can get one of the new fangled cars that has automatic rev matching for the people that never learned how to drive and don't want to learn. Having learned to drive on a VW bug, and starting with a 914 back in 1974 with the 901 transmission moving to a 911 with a 915 transmission was pretty easy. It took my arm a long time to relearn the shift pattern. The 901 has first against a spring and back so the rest of the gears are in the H. That was 100% ingrained in my brain and muscle memory after 22 years as the only car I drove. On the 911 3rd gear is such a fun go to gear for twisties. It will run from 40 to 90 and usually is in the right torque band. 3dt in the 911 is where 4th was in the 914. With the 914 I could flog the engine and still be in reasonable speed range. With so many modern cars, they are going into stupid speed in a couple of seconds. That is what made the 914 so much fun. The 911 is similar, but it can get to stupid speeds reasonable fast so I have to use restraint.
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Glen, when I had the 2.73 read gears in the Cobra it would run 68/93/133/165 though I only had it to 145 in 4th where it was still pulling very strong. Now it has the 3.55 rear end it only goes 52/72/103/135 according to the calculator. When my wife first drove it she was taking off in 3rd, which is also my most flexible gear.
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When my brother in town once I asked if he wanted to drive it. His daily driver is the 1954 VW bug with 60 HP, and a 1974 Westfallia camper with 65 HP. He kept shifting my 911 at 4,000 RPM and I told him to let it wind up to red line in second gear and he just could not floor it. The cams really come on at 4,000 so it is just getting going and he would shift.
We went to get on the interstate and the on ramp is a fun curve to opens up into to a straight with a 70 MPH legal limit, but most traffic is rolling at 75 to 80. He finally did floor it in 2nd and shifted to third and was rolling along at 70 in 3rd. I told him there are two more gears! He shifted to 4th and then realized he had accelerated to 90. He shifted to 5th and started slowing down.
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Had a 914. Then several years later I got an 88 944 Turbo S. Then a 90 928 GT Then a new 2001 Boxster S. Then 90 944 Turbo, and now a 94 GTS and a 05 Cayenne Turbo.
Started Autocorssing and learned to heel and toe in the 88 944 Turbo S. Went from 2nd slowest (the girl in the 914 that was slower kept getting lost in the course) to the car to beat in the 944 Turbo S. Learned a LOT about car setup as well. Only upgraded one component at a time and learned what that did. When I upgraded the power it went from 250 crank hp stock to 270rwhp so only gained about 50. It was very fast and so very well balanced. For a few months I had both the 88 Turbo S and the 90 928 GT. Did suspension work on the 928 to make it better balanced. The 944 was faster by almost 2 seconds, but I usually got 2nd fastest time of the day with the 928. Decided I couldn't keep both and put them both up for sale and sold the one that sold first. It was the 944. David Lindsey brought the 944 and Autocrossed it. He didn't get anywhere near my times and started changing things. It wasn't long before he made it even slower and quit autocrossing with it.
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Weeeee, more fun with 19th century technology. The national Porsche club makes us fill out the same paperwork every year. That way they get the updates for new board members or officers. One thing that did not change at all was the treasurer, or the bank information or the club charter and IRS status. We had to go through all of that once again anyway. Some of the questions were not something I had the answer for.
So I call the CPA that is a club member and just happens to be my CPA for the business. He noticed the Power of Attorney for filing the club tax forms had expired. It of course has his CPA license number, our club corporate info and so on. He does not see email as a secure enough platform so he says FAX is the way to do it. Today I received my first FAX at home since the days of dial up modems. I also had to send a FAX. Whoooo Hoooo technology at it finest. British patent 9745 on May 27, 1843. 174 years ago. Wow.
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Wasn't FAX made popluar in the 70s with TV series Dragnet. "Just the FAX, maam."
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Fax was not really popular for most business until the 1980s. We had one at my old job and we started getting "junk" faxes constantly. One group send out a page of jokes, with advertisements stuck all over it. Al my last office we finally went to a FAX that just received them but did not print them, it made them into a PDF and if we needed to it was easy to print. We got a ton of them for vacations packages and roofers and even missing children. At least we did not waste toner and paper on those.
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You could have sent all that stuff as an encrypted PDF.
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Oh I know. I can send it as a password protected 7Zip file or many other options. He is a CPA and has been told by the IRS and high dollar attorneys that FAX is accepted as secure, and a faxed signature has held up in court. He just wants to be 100% sure it is all done to IRS and legal specs, and he has a fax machine right next to the telephone at arms reach. It was easy enough, just sill old technology.
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Greetings Stijn'ers!!!!!
Random question- a couple of years ago, I vaguely remember there was a thread on inspirational quotes/ winning sayings/ etc... I can't find it, but would like to see it if available. Anybody remember what the thread was called? |
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