Stijn!!

[flipper35]

I would use a match if the drawings are bad!

[Porsche-poor]

Not that bad. He had made multi-tab drawings which is a no no. I just had to make individual files for each sheet.

[GH85Carrera]

What program do you use for most of that? AutoCAD or some other variation?

The last version of AutoCAD I installed was from a CD. Not even a DVD. No doubt, like most programs, once you learn it, is it simple. I hated trying to figure it out. We had the "Map overlay" add on so it knew geo-referencing and we could give our clients a CAD file with the image placed in it. All ancient history now.

[Porsche-poor]

Morning. I use plain AutoCAD.

[flipper35]

I like Autocad. I would not want to pay for Autocad.

[GH85Carrera]

Yea, AutoCAD is expensive, but cheap when compared to some of the mapping programs we use. One program we owned for a while and got to know the people that are behind it is priced by how much processing power you want to throw at a project. More computers banging on a project is faster obviously but it gets really expensive fast. We had over 12 grand invested when we cried uncle. And it is a very complex program to figure out.

We could not justify keeping it current. We just let them process a project that needs that processing type.

We are on good terms with them, and we can get great service.

One of the other programs that is industry standard is 14 grand per year. Every year. Forever, until they raise the price.

[flipper35]

The software publisher I worked at in CA had some high end stuff, but that was for world wide companies that could afford another digit on those prices.

Met some interesting people when I worked there and one owner offered to let my wife and myself stay with him any time we wanted to visit Puerto Rico. I would have if we had the money at the time.

[GH85Carrera]

Yea, my wife ran the HR department at the university where she used to work. They converted to a new software program designed specifically for Universities, and really large companies. It cost over a million to buy and 6 figures per year for "maintenance and tech support". Software designed to run in environments like what you do are a different order of magnitude than my little computer.

[flipper35]

So, this could have been the 914. Sorta.



https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2021/09/rare-rides-a-prototype-1970-porsche-914-murene-by-heuliez/

[GH85Carrera]

I am glad Porsche came to their sense and stuck to the original design. That is fugly, and typical post war French design. Yuck.

[Porsche-poor]

Morning all. Yeah that thing looks really ugly.

[GH85Carrera]

Several weeks back I used the internet to renew two tags, one for each of my two cars. Easy peasy, the renewal stickers came in the mail and I applied the stickers a while back.

In Oklahoma we don't deal directly with the state DMV for tags, we have a series of "tag agents" that deal with the public. It is free enterprise and of course they get a cut of the "fees" and it works great. Tag agents understand we will go to a place that is nice, well lit, smoke free, fast and easy over a smoke filled DMV type of environment like some agents.

I use a local agent when I have to go in person, and they are always fast and efficient. The fee is fixed by law so they can't charge more or less than the fixed rate. Even when I used the internet I had to pick a tag agent to get the cut of the fee. They are the ones that actually put the sticker in an envelope and print out a new registration and mail it to me. They included this letter as a thank you.

[Porsche-poor]

Morning all. We have the same type of system here only no funny letters. Yet.

[flipper35]

We have a similar system here. When Mrs. Flipper got her motorcycle we had to drive 3 miles into town to the bank to do the title transfer though.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by flipper35

We have a similar system here. When Mrs. Flipper got her motorcycle we had to drive 3 miles into town to the bank to do the title transfer though.

We were chatting about buying used cars at the car show. One of the members has a side business of flipping cars. He buys and sells cars all the time. My last car purchase was in 1995 and things have changed a bit since then. I just handed the owner a personal check for the full amount of my 911, and he handed me a signed title.

Now evidently the title signature has to be notarized. And the license tag now stays with the previous owner, so the new owner drives around with no tag. They have to go to a tag agent and get a tag ASAP.

[flipper35]

Tags don't transfer here, but the signature doesn't need to be notarized.

We have 30 days to get a tag. With the bike we had to wait at lest 90 seconds in line. I would NOT want to go to the DMV for that.

[GH85Carrera]

I don't think I have ever been to the DOT in Oklahoma. Always just a tag agent for that stuff.

When I first moved to OKC I had my 74 914 I had bought new in Alabama. It was a non title state then so I just had a bill of sale. I went into the closest tag agent and I think they issued everyone a pack of cigarettes upon entry. It was worse than any night club I ever went to. I asked for a tag and she asked for the title, and I said no title, just a bill of sale. The place went quiet and everyone looked at me like I just said something bad.

An old lady walked over to a book that looked like a prop from a Harry Potter movie, a book that was just HUGE 16x20 and 18 inches thick. She thumbed through pages and found the entry for Alabama. Non title state. So they of course had to issue a title, for a small fee. Then issue a tag. I was there for an hour and I reeked of smoke and went home and took a shower and put those clothes in a plastic bag before I washed them. I never went there again.

[GH85Carrera]

One of our PCA club members had his 1972 911 S completely restored, and the engine was rebuilt with high compression pistons and hot cams. No doubt he spent a lot on it, and it was perfect. Better than new.

It took several years to do the restoration and he kept all the bills in a large file. He went to get it tagged as he let that lapse while it was off the road. Tags used to be really expensive back then. The lady at the tag agency said "unless you can provide bills for SUBSTANTIAL cost for the restoration, you will have to pay all the late fees and registration costs. He pushed the folder to her and she looked at the paperwork and the total cost and exclaimed, Oh my god, that is more than we paid for our house!! He got the back taxes waived.

The state figured out so many people were working schemes to register the car in other states and other things they would get more money if they dropped the tag cost to reasonable and citizens would actually register the vehicles legally.

[flipper35]

When I got my bike from dad we had to go to the DMV since it was years ago. It was a simple title transfer but they had all sorts of questions, including if it was road legal and had the sticker. I just said yes and they said OK. I did not tell them it was obviously road legal since it already has a title in this state and it is just a transfer. It was weird also that I got my motorcycle endorsement on this bike when a friend of dad owned it. Dad bought it from him and then I ended up with it.

Since it was a family transfer all I had to pay was for new tags.

[Porsche-poor]

Rain lots of rain. The grand kid is one today. Family party tomorrow.