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Maybe it's just his dealership, the rest could very well be sucking wind for all we know. Just relaying a bit of first hand information that I thought was interesting.
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02-09-2010, 12:07 PM
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02-09-2010, 12:07 PM
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I included that in my post above - maybe not explicitly enough. It depends on what exactly you mean by "ignored."
At an organizational level, as a corporation - yes. But how bad was it if you look inside that black box - look at it mechanistically? Did they plan to stonewall and hope it would go away? Or did various people send memos out and the ones who got the memos took too long to decide how to figure out the problem(s) and their solutions? The 1st case is REAL bad; the 2nd is more on the organizational fk-up level... That's my point - we don't know yet what their level of culpability is. |
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02-09-2010, 12:11 PM
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So what is the difference between Toyota's recall and Ford's Pinto in the 70s? Did Ford lie and deceive? Is Toyota doing the same? As I said earlier around here, Ford seems to have recovered quite well since those dark days of bad ties and crispy passengers.
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02-09-2010, 12:12 PM
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So far, zero recalls and zero problems with my '09 Mustang. Maybe Ford is serious about quality now?
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02-09-2010, 12:47 PM
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02-09-2010, 01:02 PM
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They had just left the gas station. They left the gas cap on the pump. Realizing this, they did a U-turn and came to a stop. A van then immediately hit them in the back. There is no question the tank could have been in a better location. But the cause of the accident causing the death of the three girls was being hit in the rear, by a much larger vehicle, without a gas cap.
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02-09-2010, 03:05 PM
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other Pinto were engulfed in flames after rear-enders too
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02-09-2010, 03:45 PM
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The Lexus that killed the cop and his family also burst into flames and exploded...
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02-09-2010, 03:57 PM
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I thought it flew into a river or something...
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02-09-2010, 04:19 PM
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Every story i've read said that it burned.
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02-09-2010, 04:30 PM
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I believe when it crashed it exploded and did in fact burn.
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02-09-2010, 04:36 PM
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Mismatched floor mat implicated in catastrophic Lexus crash
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02-09-2010, 04:49 PM
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Did the headlight issue come up in this discussion?
Nation & World | Prius brake problems may be tip of electronic iceberg | Seattle Times Newspaper My Co-worker driving home the other night in a Prius lost her lights and went off the road that did not have street lights, luckily she was not hurt. |
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02-09-2010, 05:28 PM
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Ouch.
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02-09-2010, 06:18 PM
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this is like the Airbus all over again...
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02-09-2010, 06:26 PM
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It's all over when there's a recall on chopsticks.
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02-09-2010, 06:37 PM
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I had a buddy with an HF Civic CRX, we got just shy of 50 mpg on a trip to San Diego. Of course we stopped at the bottom of the Grapevine, and had been drafting off an RV for a good part of the stretch South of Stockton, but it got mid 40's without doing that.
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Delay in Response Led to Rift Between Toyota and U.S. Regulators - WSJ.com
That article sums up all of the issues
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