Magnus' new whip.

[Steve W]

Originally Posted by pmax

Until MW (and Singer for that matter) start driving their creations on the race track, the criticisms will and should continue.
MW attended RR, I don't think he even drove his "iconic" 911 on the track during that entire event.

They have the money. Just need to put it to work in the right place.

Actually every Singer built has extensive track time at Willow Springs, as part of the extensive road and track test shake down for performance, tuning, and reliability, prior to each delivery. It's just done privately and not as a spectacle in a public wheel to wheel race. They are not purpose built race cars, and each is individually owned by the owner that provided the chassis, so there's no reason to trash a new $400k car in wheel to wheel racing.

And Magnus has been a licensed Cup racer with the POC for probably about 15 years. He does know how to drive and race, but occasionally does have his bad moments. But who of us hasn't?

[RyanH]

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I respect Magnus's choices to do what he likes, of course when he challenges 'the norm' there will always be people that appreciate what he does and those that judge him and attempt to knock him down. Hey, as long as he is true to himself and enjoying his journey then I wish him all the very best in life, there should be more people like that in the world. If anybody has seen his TEDX talk you should get an idea that he is a genuine and honest person who speaks from the heart with passion and integrity. Like others I've just found out his wife of many years has recently passed away, I send my condolences.

[Jayboundless]

Originally Posted by RSBob

I am not a fan of all everything he does, but I admire his artistry whether good or bad.

Then there are are those who always resent others with more talent, money or vision. Criticism is easy.

I'll just leave this here.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by pmax

I didn't see the Singers at RR either on the track.



I did see MW at the Momo booth though with a line of people waiting for something.

Guess he was too busy signing autographs that weekend.

You know to get on track at RR you need a car with factory provenance, right? It is a RACE weekend. Neither Singer nor Magnus build racecars, so I'm not really sure what your point is.

Can their cars run on the track? Yes. They are well built and are not some thrown together mix of parts that don't work with each other. But they aren't racecars.

[panzerfaust]

Originally Posted by irobertson

For instance, I want to do IROC front and rear bumpers with a duck tail. These two thinygs are not "period correct" with each other, but I like the way they look

Who's been telling u IROC bumpers and duck tail don't belong together the Internet? :-) iroc's intitially came with ducktails

You made a lot of good points in your post. I don't really mine what people do with their cars and keep the criticism to a minimum. One thing I don't understand is the umpteen cars on this forum with iroc/RS 3.0 body work on their tribute cars with RSR insignia on them...

[LEAKYSEALS951]

(Sorta) fixed it....

[Fixer]

Originally Posted by 82 sportsc

The reference to Zagato is really reaching and a disservice to Zagato who was a master. Just google his cars.
Zagato cars are a complete expression of a design concept , not just swoops,doops and louvers.
His aluminum panels stretched over a delicate steel birdcage frame are amazingly fluid.
I love Magnus and the energy and style he brings to Porsche but let's appreciate his work and style as its own unique accomplishment.

I meant no disservice to Zagato. It's simply how people describe a roof line like this b/c they did it first. Like Kleenex.

All of us bring energy and style to the Porsche hobby, including Magnus.
I have no problem with him personally as i've never met him. I simply don't like it and have the balls to write it. Nobody really speaks the truth anymore. I do like his other cars a lot.

Some designs just don't need these kinds of changes in my view.
Ask yourself honestly: What would Butzi think? You know the answer.

[BrakeL8]

Originally Posted by pmax

Until MW (and Singer for that matter) start driving their creations on the race track, the criticisms will and should continue.
MW attended RR, I don't think he even drove his "iconic" 911 on the track during that entire event.

They have the money. Just need to put it to work in the right place.

The moment I've got 7 figures in Porsches and post projects and my garage here and people trash me when I start making a living at it is the moment I SERIOUSLY start laughing at the haters.

This isn't my favorite car, but let's get real:

1) Many of us, myself included, have done some dumb things in a car whether due to ego, distraction, etc. I'm not going to sit and judge Magnus' spin as if I'm holier than thou.

2) If you've ever read the beginning of his thread on here or interacted with him I've never been put off by him. While I don't know him personally I've said hi at cars & coffee on several occasions and never found him anything but extremely pleasant and humble.

3) I own an advertising company. I get how doing so much these days results in more writer-written lines in promotional material. You know what? I'd LOVE to turn my porsche passion into a business line. And appeasing everyone who seems to dislike in direct correlation to my own success would further amuse me.

Just my opinion, but if you know anything about magnus you know he raced extensively w/ POC. Seems like you don't know that much but are casting quite a few stones. Always an intriguing thing to watch.

[saxen]

I like be the car- some very unique things we have never seen before- very stunning car all around- to much hate here

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Steve W

Actually every Singer built has extensive track time at Willow Springs, as part of the extensive road and track test shake down for performance, tuning, and reliability, prior to each delivery. It's just done privately and not as a spectacle in a public wheel to wheel race. They are not purpose built race cars, and each is individually owned by the owner that provided the chassis, so there's no reason to trash a new $400k car in wheel to wheel racing.

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Guess you missed the story about Leh Keen flogging McNiel's Singer at Laguna Sega about a weeks prior to RR?

Good for them !

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

You know to get on track at RR you need a car with factory provenance, right? It is a RACE weekend. Neither Singer nor Magnus build racecars, so I'm not really sure what your point is.

Can their cars run on the track? Yes. They are well built and are not some thrown together mix of parts that don't work with each other. But they aren't racecars.

Look, I'm sure the man's a nice guy and was an experienced racer.

But he doesn't seem to be proving his mettle anymore on the track these days in his latest "outlaws".
If he starts doing that, I'll give him the thumbs up.

Originally Posted by BrakeL8

The moment I've got 7 figures in Porsches and post projects and my garage here and people trash me when I start making a living at it is the moment I SERIOUSLY start laughing at the haters.

This isn't my favorite car, but let's get real:

1) Many of us, myself included, have done some dumb things in a car whether due to ego, distraction, etc. I'm not going to sit and judge Magnus' spin as if I'm holier than thou.

There's a huge difference here ...

Mr Walker has marketed himself as a public figure so the public has the right to comment on his activities.

Originally Posted by Steve W

And Magnus has been a licensed Cup racer with the POC for probably about 15 years. He does know how to drive and race, but occasionally does have his bad moments. But who of us hasn't?

On the contrary, he was an accident waiting to happen.

And as an owner of these cars, speaking up against public stunts like this one below is almost obligatory.

Magnus Walker drives like a chump...

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Fixed it a little more... (I really do like this car btw... imitation being the sincerest form of flattery)

[LEAKYSEALS951]

My final offer, I converted it back to a more narrow(ish) body Okay- I'm done now!

[sugarwood]

Magnus hate also percolating on the user comments on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXdq3lGwrCk

[plexiform]

Originally Posted by Mick_D

My two cents? He doesn't do this for the attention. Or for your approval. Or even for the money. Stop trying to piss in his Cheerios.
Nice car. Some good ideas. You never know what works and what doesn't until you try it on the road.

ditto.

[island911]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

Interesting detail. Certainly different and this does actually have an Aero benefit. (Look at the later Slant Nose 911)

Originally Posted by manbridge 74

Function trumps fashion!

Please do look at the later Slant Nose 911. iirc, you will find them to be relatively flush in design. Also, iirc, they are futher fwd, where the front of the tire is pumping pressure. This is incarnation is just form imitating function. ...loudly.

[notfarnow]

Originally Posted by DanielDudley

Well, the 964 is becoming the new base platform. Big engine and AC. Lots of long hood guys have been slumming in them for a while now.

and coilovers...
and a G50...
and power steering (don't wank about this till you tried it, it's great)
and a relatively quiet cabin...

it's a great car.

[g_vaxed]

+many - great car.
However, it will be auctioned off in the very near future for Singer type money...

[winders]

Originally Posted by island911

Please do look at the later Slant Nose 911. iirc, you will find them to be relatively flush in design. Also, iirc, they are futher fwd, where the front of the tire is pumping pressure. This is incarnation is just form imitating function. ...loudly.

If you look at modern race cars with fender louvers, they are located closer to the rear of tire because that is where the pressure is generated. In other words, Magnus got the location right. More flush would be better though.

Form imitating function? There is a lot of that going on in most modified 911 street cars....

Yes, this car is a little bit over the top for me. But so are all of the RWB cars. I say let Magnus do what he wants to do. The only people that need to like it are him and the person that owns the car. Could be one in the same.

[dad911]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Magnus hate also percolating on the user comments on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXdq3lGwrCk

So it's ok to drive like that on public streets? I found the comments in line.

And I'd expect my friends in the posche community would call me out if I posted vids of myself driving like a fool on the street. They'd also give me $hit if I cut louvers in the fenders.

[winders]

I have to admit, he is being stupid driving like that on the street. If he were my friend and he showed me that vid, I would tell him so right to his face.