Magnus' new whip.

[strudelwagon]

I don't particularly love Mr.Walker's stuff but, I do defend his right to do what ever he wants.
He has a flair for "fashion over function" but that's how he made all his money.
He is in a lot of ways an artist and like most artist struggles with coming up with fresh ideas.

He's a clever marketer right down to the new Momo steering wheel. He sells the idea of being an bad-ass bare bones individual (UO), creating your own thing... and parleys it into something many people in our lick and stick society must have ..genius.

How did he become a celebrity?...he's different. Hasn't reality TV taught us anything (honey BooBoo, Pawn stars). If he was a short haired, clean shaven male model, nobody would know him from Adam.

If I won the lottery, I'd be all over building a collection of cool personalized cars too.
Love him or hate him...he's doing stuff a lot of us dream of doing with our own twist.
If nothing else. He's entertaining!
SW- REM Outlaw

[Quicksilver]

Picking away at Magnus is obviously a great sport. He has done some questionable things that give people lots of ammo and he likes to take 911s and make them visually different. That is like laying landmines around yourself during a hopscotch tournament in the Porsche world.

Magnus is very good at self promotion. This is ragged on but let's be serious. Anyone who has tried to make a good impression on a date or job interview has done self promotion. His personal style certainly isn't everyone's and it isn't my speed but no one forced anyone to look at it.

So fun with ripping on someone aside...
I never was a big fan of the 964. The urethane bumpers just aren't my thing on a car that by its own nature is so mechanical. Also unlike a lot of people I don't feel distaste when someone hotrods their cars. My big thing is, Does the styling have function or is it "anti functional"?

I really like a lot of what was done on this car. It is enough that it makes the 964 more interesting. Carrying the center hood recess over the roof an the rear works well. (I do wonder if they lowered the center or raised it over the seats.) It flows well. The gas cap is a nice simplifying touch. Not really needed but it doesn't hurt. The R taillights I think work well. I know a lot of people don't like the wheels but I think they are an interesting engineering solution that pays tribute to the favorite wheel of most of us. The shaved ran gutters are really nice. (Wish Porsche had done that.) Aero mirrors are nice but I would prefer it with the 935 mirrors. The suggestion to remove the rear center reflector sounds cool. Obviously a retro indent would be nice. Add that to a louvered/vented rear valance would be really cool. The old school chrome mirror is a nice touch. The wire grill looks excellent.

The one thing I really don't like is the way the louvers on the fender were done. The hex metal mesh in the opening is nice but the angle of the louvers is too short and abrupt for me. It just seems to be an obtrusive hack. If the louvers were made so they were at a much more sloped angle with maybe the leading edge punched inward I might like them. Maybe if they only stuck up 1/3 as much. I'd want to see a few different things before I'd agree to interrupt the line of the fender.
That said... It is his car and he has his own style that he obviously enjoys and this is done VERY WELL to that style. Plus he did this with a basket case and I think even the biggest critic would say it was an improvement.

[PZSPEED]

How does he actually make his money? I could never figure out what he did besides make t-shirts and get free crap from every manufacture on the planet...He needs some free shampoo and a supercut!

[DanielDudley]

Well, the 964 is becoming the new base platform. Big engine and AC. Lots of long hood guys have been slumming in them for a while now.

[Fixer]

I had no idea his Wife had passed away. I'm very sorry to hear this.

Constructive criticism is not hating. That's childish. It helps him get it right the next time. The design work does not impress me at all, BUT the people that did the body work
DO impress me; Good work on this !

The Design:

I had thought about the louvering of the fender tops [many have] on my project
and now that i see them I'm glad i didn't.

The way to get the louvered fenders right; would be to louver them the way a 930 slant nose is louvered, so that the outline of the fender is not changed and it is subtle.
Subtle is way cooler.

The Zagato roof line was intended for more head room but least amount of frontal area. This was recessing the inner section, unlike on the 911 trunk lids, the recess serves 2 functions [stiffen lid + cabin air] It serves no function at all. But again nice body work [black is toughest btw, got to be perfect] The thing about classic Porsche design that i love is that function came before fashion ALWAYS.

IMHO:
It doesn't have that classic Porsche Less Is More quality. Overdone.

[Jherriott]

Interesting, but when you see 964s at Worthersee... that's more what I like from the "Stance" crowd... They declutter and refine the car paying homage to the original lines.

[Nachtfalter]

Originally Posted by winders

The louvers on top of the fenders serve a quite practical purpose on cars that are going fast. They reduce lift by reducing pressure in the wheel well. You guys might want to do some research before you dismiss features out of hand. You don't have to like them.....but they server a real purpose.

I'm pretty sure the effectiveness of the louvers is in concert with the slant nose as discovered when the rules allowed the 935 to dispose of the front headlights. I could be wrong, but they were never used before the slant nose.

These with the silly screens are just that, silly and distracting like all the other stupid Outlaw trinkets from Emory. I do love the color and oddly, the roof looks cool.

But when the car you start with looks like this, you can only go backwards aesthetically.

[shaunmbenson]

I love this 964. Near perfect

Yeah - funny how tables turn - used to be all Magnus love - Except the unavoidable low hanging fruit of saying he needs to cut his hair - that joke was funny in Easy Rider when the yokels made it and it's still hilarious ROFL

Like him or not - he drives fast and well, (recent shunt notwithstanding) John 'OTTO' Williamson - no slouch round the track - could count on one hand drivers he respected for their skill - Magnus was always one. And ironically the crustiest Porsche bastard I knew (I miss him!) never stooped to lame jokes - he respected the dreadlocked guy who sold hats on the Venice boardwalk with $5 to his name and made something of himself. We all like the American Dream until we feel left behind I guess

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by PZSPEED

How does he actually make his money? I could never figure out what he did besides make t-shirts and get free crap from every manufacture on the planet...He needs some free shampoo and a supercut!

He made his money in apparel. His stuff used to be worn by Madonna, Slash, and many other music and movie types. He now has a movie production company run out of his warehouse.

3.8I BBi built engine with Rothsport injection. 6spd conversion with 4.00 ring and pinion with Guard gt2 pro lsd. This car will get it done regardless of what people think of the looks.

[jac1976]

Agree with most of the points made here in this thread, although my opinion, like others', is just an opinion. I seem to be most inline with Quicksliver:

"The one thing I really don't like is the way the louvers on the fender were done. The hex metal mesh in the opening is nice but the angle of the louvers is too short and abrupt for me. It just seems to be an obtrusive hack. If the louvers were made so they were at a much more sloped angle with maybe the leading edge punched inward I might like them. Maybe if they only stuck up 1/3 as much. I'd want to see a few different things before I'd agree to interrupt the line of the fender.
That said... It is his car and he has his own style that he obviously enjoys and this is done VERY WELL to that style. Plus he did this with a basket case and I think even the biggest critic would say it was an improvement."

As I stated earlier in this thread, I am confounded as to how the addition of louvres and a finned gas cap improve on the lines of the car. If the louvres provide some function, then great. Not really my cup of tea aesthetically speaking...I am curious as to how they might look executed as Quicksilver describes and/or gradually elongating downward with the lower edges following the radius of the wheel arch as they progress toward the rear of the car. And I whole-heartedly agree that it is his car and he can do as he pleases.

Deepest condolences to him and his family.

[impactbumper]

I don't know about himself never met him. Who am I to judge a person without spending time with him/her?

I like what he does with his cars. That is his taste.

Promoting them gives right to everyone to spare their opinions.

Refreshing to see a different touch on a 964 where the scene is flooded by bunch of fxxkbois.

Most liked the engine of course. Not new though.

[Jmorski]

I dig it, the roof is way cool.

[sc_rufctr]

I like that it's different but some of the elements look clumsy. Like the chrome trim against the more modern 964 aero mirrors.
I'm guessing the roof is fiberglass and it looks great but again a detail not in keeping with the early car elements.

I like the minimalist look of the stubby tail. That could catch on.

[sc_rufctr]

Interesting detail. Certainly different and this does actually have an Aero benefit. (Look at the later Slant Nose 911)



The Stubby tail. Great project idea if you have an older tail with a damaged rubber lip.

[Reiver]

Car is damned interesting..as are most of his builds.
What I don't get is the collective griping about a guy that came here with the clothes on his back, got busy...worked within the system and made himself a success.
That is what makes America great but you wouldn't know it listening to some of the comments.
What, you need another immigrant on welfare to be happy?

[GT3STIG]

Originally Posted by tirwin

Don't know if you guys saw this or not but Magnus' wife passed away a few weeks ago. Very sad.

I guess the new hipster cool thing is to not like Magnus. I don't get it. I'm not a RWB guy but others are. To each his own.

Did somebody say RWD ?? ....And it's a 964
650hp turbo power....




Sad news about his wife's passing. My condolences.

[carrerarsr65]

whos green car, that thing looks wickeddd,more info please

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Nachtfalter

But when the car you start with looks like this, you can only go backwards aesthetically.

It needs a fixed tail in order to minimize the squashed VW Bug profile, and the anti-dished wheels are less than boss.

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by Fixer

I had no idea his Wife had passed away. I'm very sorry to hear this.

The thing about classic Porsche design that i love is that function came before fashion ALWAYS.


It doesn't have that classic Porsche Less Is More quality.

All fair comments. Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements is an acronym. Some like it, some don't. I'm not big fan of stanced cars either. But extreme stance actually inhibits the normal function of a suspension.

The impressive thing about this car for me would be that fact that it is a driver.
If you like that other stuff, God bless you. Very well done, yes.

Look, this was our hobby, and these cars were our aspiration and our pleasure. It was always about the cars and driving. For enthusiasts. Now, they are a branded icon, something that people with money are learning that they need to have in order to be cool. Not just people who love them, but people who love to be cool and flash.

Maybe some of us feel we are being branded out of our hobby. Paul Mustang sold his S, and some of us are feeling that a little bit now, what he felt. And the people driving like idiots on the road. That seems to fit in somehow, in an era when super fast cars are starting to drive themselves. Driving fast. No big deal, RIGHT ?

Let's all look the other way. Forget about branding, and marketing, the lack of respect for speed, and the death of our hobby. It is at least, the end of the beginning, when ordinary guys in their basements and garages did cool things with cars, and the respected mechanics and builders were the guys who grew up living and breathing this stuff.

It isn't all about Magnus, this thing that has people upset. It's the 800 pound Gorilla in the room that has people uneasy.

[Daves911L]

Originally Posted by DanielDudley

All fair comments. Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements is an acronym. Some like it, some don't. I'm not big fan of stanced cars either. But extreme stance actually inhibits the normal function of a suspension.

The impressive thing about this car for me would be that fact that it is a driver.
If you like that other stuff, God bless you. Very well done, yes.

Look, this was our hobby, and these cars were our aspiration and our pleasure. It was always about the cars and driving. For enthusiasts. Now, they are a branded icon, something that people with money are learning that they need to have in order to be cool. Not just people who love them, but people who love to be cool and flash.

Maybe some of us feel we are being branded out of our hobby. Paul Mustang sold his S, and some of us are feeling that a little bit now, what he felt. And the people driving like idiots on the road. That seems to fit in somehow, in an era when super fast cars are starting to drive themselves. Driving fast. No big deal, RIGHT ?

Let's all look the other way. Forget about branding, and marketing, the lack of respect for speed, and the death of our hobby. It is at least, the end of the beginning, when ordinary guys in their basements and garages did cool things with cars, and the respected mechanics and builders were the guys who grew up living and breathing this stuff.

It isn't all about Magnus, this thing that has people upset. It's the 800 pound Gorilla in the room that has people uneasy.

Nicely put!

I'd never heard this term "stanced" before, but those lowered 964s on the previous page are really stupid. When you sacrifice driving performance for cosmetics, you clearly don't understand what a Porsche is. And the grey car with the fender vents sort of looks like a circus clown.