Sirius Satellite Radio - Installation/Antenna on 911cab

[on-ramp]

i posted this in the OT thread, here goes:

do you remember when TV was free, when Water was free, when Radio was free???

ah, the good old days.

the only thing remaining to pay for is oxygen intake. Some corporate exec. somewhere will figure that one out as well and all the idiots will line up with their wallets.

[Scott R]

Originally posted by on-ramp
i posted this in the OT thread, here goes:

do you remember when TV was free, when Water was free, when Radio was free???

ah, the good old days.

the only thing remaining to pay for is oxygen intake. Some corporate exec. somewhere will figure that one out as well and all the idiots will line up with their wallets.

I look at it this way, regular FM consumes my time with endless commercials, and my time is money to me. After all no one pays me to listen to their junk. So $11 to live without the diarrhea of commercial ridden "free fm" is money well spent.

To call what satellite “radio” would mean that you would need to give another name to terrestrial radio, the two are fundamentally different.

[on-ramp]

Originally posted by Scott R
I look at it this way, regular FM consumes my time with endless commercials, and my time is money to me. After all no one pays me to listen to their junk. So $11 to live without the diarrhea of commercial ridden "free fm" is money well spent.

To call what satellite “radio” would mean that you would need to give another name to terrestrial radio, the two are fundamentally different.

but we all know commercials on Satellite are inevitable. This is the period where they want to hook people with "no commercial music".

But in a few years , it's 1/3 commercials again. Remember at the onset of cable? there were no commercials. now it's 1/3 programming.

[Scott R]

Originally posted by on-ramp
but we all know commercials on Satellite are inevitable. This is the period where they want to hook people with "no commercial music".

But in a few years , it's 1/3 commercials again. Remember at the onset of cable? there were no commercials. now it's 1/3 programming.

I don't have any commercials on the cable channels I watch.

Also here is the optional "low profile" antenna on my Targa:



I need to hide the wire through the vent as suggested above, thanks for that tip.

[BigMan_99]

Originally posted by ZOANAS
Umm...read a paper. Only 3-4 million of his 12 million listeners followed him. Sirius is on the edge, and CBS is suing Stern for 200M, and will win.

Ridiculous is how you spell ridiculous, bell.

Keep in mind that most of what you read in the paper is drivel . Stern, like him or hate him draws huge numbers. Sirius was lagging far behind XM before the Stern announcement. Sirius brought on almost three million new subscribers when they announced Stern was moving there. They then added another 1.5 million after he got there. Keeep in mind as well that you are asking these people to pay $13 a month as well as the hardware. In any world this has to be a huge victory for Sirius. For anyone to say he only was able to draw a third of his listeners and say this was a failure...please. This reeks of typical anti-Stern blather. And the CBS lawsuit? You have to read both sides of the story before you can post an honest opinion. If you will do so, you would find a lawsuit that has no merit and reeks of sour grapes.

The guy just puts out a radio show. And a very popular one at that. Whether you like the content or not is up to you. Thats the great thing about sat radio. You don't have to buy it. It's about choice. Anyone who tries to forcefully limit that choice due to there own one sided views is misguided and just plain wrong. And yeah, I bought Sirius just because of Howard Stern and I'm proud that I was able to make the choice. Prouder still that I can still make that choice and not be told I can't by a certain narrow minded minority. But thanks for your "opinion just the same.

My antenna is mount on the dash, right side with a tiny amount of double sided tape. Works fine.

[bell]

Originally posted by kilodawg
Two sides to every story. I read the paper and between the lines. 4 million people PAY to here Stern and last I read Sirius is still signing up subscriptions. The XM rate of new subscriptions has fallen behind Sirius and Sirius now has a new deal with VW.

Sirius isn't on the edge and I haven't seen that in the media. Pretty unanimous legal consensus is that CBS won't win. They could have pulled the plug at any time.

Spin is how you spell spin, bell out!

ZOANAS......do you believe everything you read?
kilodawg hit the nail on the head, 4 million is a hell of alot of audience to decide to pay for the switch......i believe that's about 30-40% of his audience iirc.....quite an accomplishment if you ask me.
did i spell that right? god forbid something gets spelled wrong on the internet

and i listen to everything from classic rock to punk to old school rap......sirius has better programming. period.
i've been a dealer for both for 2 years........99% of what we instal is sirius, the consumer dollar doesn't lie.
also 60 channels on sirius are commercial free....all music stations.

AND.....sirius will be implementing video transmission in the coming years.....you'll see cartoon channels first....then more programming will be added.
xm does not currently have this capability.

[Pete000]

Just put it up on the dash pointing up through the windshield. Works in my Honda Pilot just fine. No wires going out side the cabin.

[ZOA NOM]

bell, I gave my opinion, it was you that decided to start running your mouth, "rediculous" was the incorrectly spelled word you used. If you're gonna throw rocks, at least spell it right.

Stern just doesn't impress me. Same garbage, daily for almost 30 years. I think he made a mistake thinking people would pay to hear his show. Time will expose whether I'm right. I'll be here to take my beating if I'm wrong. Who among you will eat your crow when it turns out the way I think it will?

[qlander]

Gotta put in my 2 cents.

I've listened to both stations in different cars. It would appear to me that the signal for xm is cleaner and of better quality.

I also don't care for Howard Stern. Same old stuff over and over. Mindless. The comedy channels offer much more variety. Why do I have to listen to DJ's on sirrius???? Just give me music!

Thanks for the placement ideas. I'm also currently in the process of installing xm in my cab .

Q.

[BigMan_99]

Originally posted by ZOANAS
bell, I gave my opinion, it was you that decided to start running your mouth, "rediculous" was the incorrectly spelled word you used. If you're gonna throw rocks, at least spell it right.

Stern just doesn't impress me. Same garbage, daily for almost 30 years. I think he made a mistake thinking people would pay to hear his show. Time will expose whether I'm right. I'll be here to take my beating if I'm wrong. Who among you will eat your crow when it turns out the way I think it will?

Thats 4 million "mistakes"and counting I guess. And I'll be glad to ëat crow"as well...but since he survived for 30 years on regular radio without being forced out, time is certainly on my side.

[Otto]

I had to wait for three months for my Sirius gear. The reason there aren't 12 million is because there aren't any radios to be purchased.

[ZOA NOM]

TechDirt article

Searching For Howard Stern's Lost Listeners
from the and-like-that...-they-vanished dept

For all the hype surrounding Howard Stern's move to Sirius radio, only a small fraction of his drive-time listeners actually signed up for Sirius subscriptions (though, clearly, enough to keep both Stern and Sirius pretty happy). At the same time, his "replacements" at CBS Radio have an even smaller fraction of his old listening audience, meaning that everyone's searching for Howard Stern's millions of lost listeners. Mostly, people seem to think those listeners gravitated to other, more established, local shock jocks -- while another bunch jumped to NPR (yes, NPR). Still, for all the talk about how the Stern jump would kill terrestrial radio and save satellite radio, it doesn't appear that all that many people came with him. What's most interesting, though, is how confused the entire industry seems to be about all of this. Stern was such a giant in the industry that no one seemed to have any clue what would actually happen when he jumped ship -- and now that it's happened, they're still struggling to figure out where everyone went.

[Scott R]

Originally posted by ZOANAS
TechDirt article

Searching For Howard Stern's Lost Listeners
from the and-like-that...-they-vanished dept

For all the hype surrounding Howard Stern's move to Sirius radio, only a small fraction of his drive-time listeners actually signed up for Sirius subscriptions (though, clearly, enough to keep both Stern and Sirius pretty happy). At the same time, his "replacements" at CBS Radio have an even smaller fraction of his old listening audience, meaning that everyone's searching for Howard Stern's millions of lost listeners. Mostly, people seem to think those listeners gravitated to other, more established, local shock jocks -- while another bunch jumped to NPR (yes, NPR). Still, for all the talk about how the Stern jump would kill terrestrial radio and save satellite radio, it doesn't appear that all that many people came with him. What's most interesting, though, is how confused the entire industry seems to be about all of this. Stern was such a giant in the industry that no one seemed to have any clue what would actually happen when he jumped ship -- and now that it's happened, they're still struggling to figure out where everyone went.

This is the standard oppossion story out there, this about summs this whole paragraph up:

From: http://www.audiographics.com/agd/032806-1.htm

Let me place two sentences side by side that describe Howard Stern and his move to Sirius. See if you react differently to each:

New Jacobs Study Says 70% Of Stern Listeners Stayed With Terrestrial Radio

New Jacobs Study Says 30% of Stern Listeners Moved To Sirius

Now, which one do you think was the headline bantered about in radio trade publications?

30% is 20% better than Sirius, or Stern ever hoped for, they should be celbrating this, however we can see that the media "spindoctors" are doing their usual lame slants on stories.

[BigMan_99]

Thank you Scott for posting the link to that article, it was what I was trying to say very well summed up. ZOANAS seems to not really understand what 4 Million people just went out and did. Man, I wish I could move 4 Million people to my product without blinking an eye.

[ZOA NOM]

Let's check back in a year.

[hotshottt06]

I am an installer/salesman at a stereo shop in my town and carry XM. We actually get a lot of customers coming in that have sirius, wanting to switch to XM. XM is way ahead of sirius. Sirius doesnt really have a nice sleek looking unit that i would want in my car. They are pretty bulky and ugly. When a customer brings in a Sirius radio they want me to install i often have a hard time of where i can mount it without it blocking controls, screens, and look nice in the vehicle. Sirius also does not get very good reception, especially in trouble places where satallite radio is supposed to dominate. If it were me i would go XM all they way, i take Opie and Anthony over Howard Stern. As for your antenna location, on your dash, as close to the windshield as possible is a perfectly fine location for it.

[Scott R]

Originally posted by hotshottt06
I am an installer/salesman at a stereo shop in my town and carry XM. We actually get a lot of customers coming in that have sirius, wanting to switch to XM. XM is way ahead of sirius. Sirius doesnt really have a nice sleek looking unit that i would want in my car. They are pretty bulky and ugly. When a customer brings in a Sirius radio they want me to install i often have a hard time of where i can mount it without it blocking controls, screens, and look nice in the vehicle. Sirius also does not get very good reception, especially in trouble places where satallite radio is supposed to dominate. If it were me i would go XM all they way, i take Opie and Anthony over Howard Stern. As for your antenna location, on your dash, as close to the windshield as possible is a perfectly fine location for it.

I think the equipment issue is going to change real quick, I was at CES this year and the "wearable" S1000 (first truly portable sat radio) is going to turn some heads.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sirius-wearable-receiver-to-snatch-lead-from-xm.html

[therotman]

i rented a car with xm and thought it had worse reception than my sirius.

i've been a subscriber for 14 months and will never go back to FM radio. I don't even have an FM antenna in the car.

I pay $130 a year to to never have to listen to comericals, buy cd's or download music. That's worth way more than $11 a month to me.

[B D]

As soon as NASCAR goes over to Sirius next year XM will be far behind Sirius. The only thing XM has going for it is MLB. Ask any shop how many XM vs. Sirius units they install and you will realize XM is in big trouble. Anyone with XM should try canceling there subscription it's a known fact they will offer you a ridiculously low rate to stay on board just to keep their numbers up and shareholders optimistic.

If a supposed Stern fan did not get Sirius they are not a fan. Have you seen the ratings Adam Corolla and David Lee Roth are pulling it's pathetic.

Anyways you all know Stern is the best, you will never read about another shock jock with out them mentioning Stern. He is the top dog and will be for a long time. All you that don't agree are jealous haters or up tight religious nuts.

XM is ghey!

[Super_Dave_D]

I thinks its so funny how a dude asks for a good placement spot for his antenna and it turns into a Stern war!! Awesome!!! I myself have Sirrius and the wife has XM. Everytime we drive in my car she comments on how she likes Sirrius over XM and wish she could have it (built in XM in the Acura TL). Go Howard!!!! Go Bubba!!!! You know they also have the Playboy channel now and if your too uptight you can listen to Marta!!! Aint it great!!!