Installing 95 993 3.6 into 69 T/RSR

[rennch]

spacewise, this front cooler looks almost impossible to install. There's just not enough room up there.

[quattrorunner]

You'd need to cut the front trunk area out and put a oil cooler panel there for that otherwise add one in the fender. If you can weld do the front cooler.

[mreid]

I'm only running a front cooler in my 1974 with 1995 3.6. Never gets hot in south Texas heat.

[rennch]

Can I get away with just the one fender cooler on a trip from SD to Monterey? Then add an additional fender or front mount after I get back?

[rennch]

Originally Posted by quattrorunner

You'd need to cut the front trunk area out and put a oil cooler panel there for that otherwise add one in the fender. If you can weld do the front cooler.

I'm pretty adamant about not cutting anymore chassis. I'd rather put dual fender coolers in there.

[quattrorunner]

That's good to know. Front mount is better as there is lots of fresh air there. Fender needs help.

[quattrorunner]

Originally Posted by emptyo

I'm pretty adamant about not cutting anymore chassis. I'd rather put dual fender coolers in there.

If you can't cut the front then it needs to be fender mount. How big is the rx7 cooler? Perhaps we could do some horse trading.

[quattrorunner]

I don't know about just the fender cooler.

[Trackrash]

You should talk to Kinninger. He built the blue "smurf" car that AXs at Qualcom. He works at Black Forest.

I have an RX-7 cooler mounted to the front of my '71. I did not mod the tub and it fits in my front bumper. Works well. Plumbing is tight on the long hoods due to the battery box. I actually have room for a larger cooler.

Not my car but it shows the plumbing.

[pors1968]

Always tought the RX7 cooler were good enought for 3L not for 3.6

[quattrorunner]

3.0 has engine Cooler too. 3.6 does not.

[arrivederci]

You will need two. I have one in each fender and am considering adding a fan to one side for traffic situations. I wouldn't risk running with just one cooler.

[rennch]

Noted. Thanks!

[froggert]

I ran just the single stock carrera oil cooler for a little while. It was fine in cooler weather or while moving but not sufficient while stuck in traffic in 90 degree temps.

[rennch]

I'm told that I can use the RS bumper, but I have to really trim it to get it to work.

Does anyone know if I can use the stock 993 engine tin? I can't seem to find any good 3.2 tin at the moment.

[safe]

Originally Posted by emptyo

I'm told that I can use the RS bumper, but I have to really trim it to get it to work.

Does anyone know if I can use the stock 993 engine tin? I can't seem to find any good 3.2 tin at the moment.

You need to modify them a bit.
Chop down the rear section so its level with the side tins and remove the heater duct.


I also needed to chop down the front section half an inch, not the whole length but until the curve at the ends.


From the curved section I needed to extend the tins to fit the seal.


And since I'm not keeping the power steering pump a big hole was left that I needed to fabricate a new tin for.





Not sure everyone needs to cut the front tins, I have a G50 and maybe the engine isn't in the exact same position as someone with a 915.

[rennch]

Magnus...THANK YOU. It's exactly what I needed. You rock.

[safe]

Your welcome!

[PcarPhil]

Originally Posted by emptyo

Magnus...THANK YOU. It's exactly what I needed. You rock.

Michael,

Keep in mind that Magnus is also using the 993 engine console and crossmember. Fitment changes quite a bit when using a 3.2 engine console and crossmember.

You'll probably go with one of these setups:

964/993 tins (modified) + 964/993 crossmember (modified) + 964/993 engine console + 1" spacers above crossmember

or

3.2 tins (modified) + 993 tins (donor pieces) + 3.2 crossmember + 3.2 console + single or double row crank pulley

[safe]

Originally Posted by Kaefer

Michael,

Keep in mind that Magnus is also using the 993 engine console and crossmember. Fitment changes quite a bit when using a 3.2 engine console and crossmember.

You'll probably go with one of these setups:

993 tins (modified) + 993 crossmember (modified) + 993 engine console

or

3.2 tins (modified) + 993 tins (donor pieces) + 3.2 crossmember + 3.2 console + single or double row crank pulley

Well, 964 console and crossmember (modified), but youre right.

I also have a spacer (about 1 inch) between the crossmember and body. Otherwise the side tins would hit, the intake would not fit under the parcel shelf, and the gearbox would hit the shock tower crossmember.
I think I have the engine in the right place, maybe I should use slightly thicker spacers.
Should have raised the crossmember when I was welding on it... Maybe I'll redo that.