924S with a V8 in it

[952]

PS if anyone thinks dumping a V8 does not alter the handling performance in a 944, they have rocks in their head. All that extra weight in the front makes me cringe.

[952]

This is the quality of that forum... a guy referring to "purists" (guys that have a porsche engine in a porsche)

"Those purest are pretty wacked. I think what it really comes down to is most dont have the mechical ability to do a swap, let alone change thier own timing belts. So they slam the people that can and do. Kinda like the big school bully picking on the kid that is good in math because he cant add 2 and 2"

lol

[fast924S]

Well according to Renegade hybrids says

"Weight Distribution
Contrary to popular opinion, the superb handling characteristics of the 944 are not decreased by the addition of the V-8 powerplant. In normally aspirated versions of the 944, the weight distribution changes less than two percent. In the turbo cars, the change is less than 1.5 percent. A typical characteristic of a stock 944 is a slight "push" or understeer under acceleration. We have found that with the added weight of the V-8 the "push" condition actually diminishes. Furthermore, the more manageable torque and predictable horsepower allows the driver to easily transfer weight from front to rear allowing for increased car control. Quite simply it is much more fun to drive a converted 944."

And yes I have been watching too much Chip foose

[1.2gees]

More weight on one axle = less grip for that axle. Therefore the above statement quoted from renegade is incorrect. Another thing to note is the distribution of the weight on an engine, center of gravity of the said engine, etc. I have trouble picturing a domestic v8 being so much lighter than a Porsche 944 motor. I have weighed several 944s (turbo and otherwise), and have access to a scale in Raleigh North Carolina, I would weigh somebodies 944 v-8 conversion car if anybody's willing to offer.

Anyway, I would be the last guy to bad mouth people who "modify" their Porsches but there's a difference between pushing the limits of a Porsche motor, and dropping in a carburated, push rod, iron-block v-8...
Ahmet

[flangermog]

Hey, I believe in free will as much as the next guy and congratulations to all of you who have successfully inserted a V8 into a 944 without affecting the handling. But you must be exceedingly talented engineers to make this possible (why don't you just build your own car?). I know that if I had spent a considerable amount of time on a project such as this, I would probably not like to hear what an INSANE idea it is from people i don't know.

I'm willing to be proved wrong on this (not that I really have a point to prove), but I don't believe the definition of a fast car should be limited to how well it goes in a straight line (unless it's a land speed record attempt or a drag racer). Remember the urban legend about the guy who strapped a jet engine onto the back of his pickup truck and accellerated at over 300mph into a hillside...?

Enjoy your fuel bills!

[tifosiman]

Originally posted by dmsog
Sorry, we have no group buys going on for valve stem caps at this time.

Damn, that was a great left hook! Ouch! That valve-stem group buy was just begging for someone to poke fun at it. That, and the guy over on Renn that just painted his n/a brake calipers yellow, along with the dust-sheilds.

I see nothing wrong with dropping a V8 into a 944. It's not for me, but it is their car and their choice. I saw a nicely done one a few weeks back at a Porsche show, it looked factory almost.

I would be curious to drive one and see what the brakes feel like with the booster deleted. Although, there is no way that it can be any worse than the 65 mustang I used to have.

[952]

I also personally have no issues about a V8 in a 924/944 either. But its funny when they think they are ground breaking wonder mechanics and engineers that are pioneering a new path and are floccinaucinihilipilificatious when considering the stock say, 944 Turbo engine. Classic example... a 944 V8 guy dragged a ricer and the other guy said I thought Porsches were slow, 944 v8 clown says, I think they are slow too, so I put a V8 in

[fast924S]

That Porsche got a hemi. HAHAHAHA sorry I had to

[CJFusco]

actually, the Porsche 911 engine is a HEMI configuration.

[dmsog]

Originally posted by flangermog
Hey, I believe in free will as much as the next guy and congratulations to all of you who have successfully inserted a V8 into a 944 without affecting the handling. But you must be exceedingly talented engineers to make this possible (why don't you just build your own car?). I know that if I had spent a considerable amount of time on a project such as this, I would probably not like to hear what an INSANE idea it is from people i don't know.

I'm willing to be proved wrong on this (not that I really have a point to prove), but I don't believe the definition of a fast car should be limited to how well it goes in a straight line (unless it's a land speed record attempt or a drag racer). Remember the urban legend about the guy who strapped a jet engine onto the back of his pickup truck and accellerated at over 300mph into a hillside...?

Enjoy your fuel bills!

Thank you very much for the 'exceedingly talented engineer' compliment. and I accept your apology. Thanks also to the membership for providing my message board with 3 new members, who apparently didn't know it existed prior to this thread.

Doug

[Taz's Master]

There is an increase in weight on the front end when installing a V-8. But I'm curious if anyone can quantify which is the bigger step in weight, from NA to turbo, or from the turbo's front end weight to a V-8. I did some checking, and frond a site that put the difference in weight from an NA to a turbo at right about 200 lbs. Lots changed in the 944 turbo, but is 100 lbs too much to assume for the turbo, and its plumbing? After checking I got a weight of 537 lbs for a 283 SBC with aluminum intake. I figure a 350 with aluminum heads ought to come in under 500 lbs. I would guess the 2.5 na engine must be pretty close to 300 lbs. Adding 200 lbs to the front must alter handling like taking a stock 944 with a full tank of gas, removing the rear seat, spare jack and tools and running the tank almost empty would.

[952]

Looks clumsy.

[Taz's Master]

Sure, but it doesn't look fragile, like some turbos appear.

[dmsog]

Originally posted by 952
Looks clumsy.

Oh, Lord...why can't I be like everybody else....why can't I have a time-bomb of an engine that has to be laid over at 30 degrees so the hood will close WITH the added feature that it requires a balance shaft to keep itself from jumping out of the engine bay? Why was I smitten with the plague of being able to remove and replace any engine accessory in 30 minutes or less? Lord, Why can't I have an engine that requires a 50 mile drive to get parts. Why can't I even have the pleasure of driving my car hoping the timing belt doesn't break? The inhumanity I say! The inhumanity!

I guess I just wasn't born under a lucky star. I'm just now resigning myself to the fact that I'll have to keep driving my Chevy with the Porsche body on it.....

[F18Rep]

Doug... very impressive work. Just keep that flame suit zipped.

[952]

Ok you proved you cant afford to maintain a proper Porsche... congratulations.

PS many people have deleted their balance shafts with no vibrations issues

PPS: I get my parts delivered

I didnt know V8's never broke belts, nearly makes me want to buy a Holden Monaro. They come with V8's factory ya know. Impressive eh?

[jim302]

My god who would put an audi trans in a porsche

Why don't people just use porsche only parts in thier cars?

[952]

Troll

[jim302]

I'm sorry. Did I offend you with all the non Porsche parts on your car?

[952]

*cough* Troll go way *cough*.

Hey thanks for sending your bitter Porsche motor hating mates over to a Porsche forum, thanks for posting the link to yours too