Engine pull.

[Anthony10370]

Hey I want to pull my engine and do an internal inspection and gasket reseal. This is mainly because cyl# 6 has a blown head gasket and gets about 6:1 compression and there is coolant in the cylinder.

I have encountered a slight problem as the engine hoist I have borrowed from a friend only has a 36inch reach. So I have decided to remove the front bumper and radiator to slide the hoist up to the motor.

What is the beat way to approach this? Do i have to take the fenders off as well to remove the cross metal behind the bumper? I looked up front end removal in the shop manual and it basically describes the procedure as "YES." Then goes into welding the frame or some other useless (for me) information.

I'll post pics as I go along.

Thanks,
Anthony.

[Herr-Kuhn]

Go to your local flea market and buy a higher lift...they only run like $150.00. Removing the front bumper will likely cause issues. If you lived nearby, I'd let you borrow my hoist.

[joejoe1]

Remove the radiator---yes. Remove bumpers? NO! You should rent/borrow another hoist with longer reach

[Anthony10370]

ooookayyyyyyy... So who wants a 928? i think the glass still works, and it has half a tank of gas!

NO, just kidding.

Well not many of my friends have engine hoists lol and my 928 budget is like $100 every once in a while, (I know, I know), but I'm mechanically inclined (on my last automotive quarter of my 2 year now) and I have many tools and lots of time. So after some further measuring and more thought I figure I can go from the side if I remove the wheel and the side fender. But that is pretty much 9289200871's last chance at life .

Ill do some research and give something a shot!

-Anthony

[gbgastowers]

I rented a hoist that had wheels and a trailer hitch. It was easy to handle and had an extra long reach. Hauser rental in NC. By the way- you wil only need it on 2 different days. Day of the pull and day of the install. Gunar

[Landseer]

Look.

The fender removal thing will not work well.
You risk damage to the car.

The hoist needs to have enough reach and be on wheels.

Don't damage a car, even one that is hurting, because your budget is low right now.

Get the fluids drained and discarded. Prepare for the pull. Don't try the "all or nothing" desperation move. Not necessary, is it? You have other transportation?

How about some nice pictures of the car during this intermission, while we figure out where we are going to find the long reach hoist?

[Pete R]

It's difficult enough with all the right stuff. $100 every now and then isn't gonna cut it with a 928. The engine reseal kit will be $300 plus throw in a t-belt change..
If your going to school for mechanics you'll need a hoist again sooner or later
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[Anthony10370]

Yeah I see going from the side would be a problem sliding the engine foreword wouldn't work very well.

I already have some of the gaskets, I just have a few more left to purchase. Also I just did the timing belt 20 miles ago (2 years) along with the water pump, and tensioner rebuild, the belt is in great shape and has not come in contact with coolant or oil.

What I have done:
I have also replaced the battery, starter, alternator, air filter, front main seal, vacuum lines, front brake discs, and all the pads. I have also flushed the cooling system, changed the oil and filter, rebuilt the transmission shift valve housing and drained the torque converter, flushed the cooler lines, and replaced the transmission fluid. Also rewired the dash board, and gutted the interior down to the dash and driver's seat.

What it still needs:
Engine internal inspection, drive line shaft creep check, torque converter-flex plate rivets replaced with bolts, repaint, new racing seats and misc electrical such as grounds and a central warning unit problem. The A/C is inop. but that's not on my to do list.

Also, the transmission acts weird, it doesn't always go into gear when first started, but after a short warm up time, it goes into gear when selected, and shifts fine in the foreword gears and into reverse also, so I don't know what that means for my transmission.

OK. so after further research, I have come to understand that the cross member behind the bumper is welded in at the sides. Didn't know this before lol so taking the bumper off is out of the question. Guess I'll find out about a larger lift.

Thanks,
Anthony.

PS. I read my earlier post... wow that sounds bad. Also, I do take my work seriously and I don't half ass things, so any work I complete is handled with proper care and done right the first time.

Oh, ill post pics tomorrow when there is light outside.

[Danglerb]

I don't know if it was mentioned, but another cheap way to pull the motor is to remove the hood (leave the hinges and pencil where it goes) and pull with a hoist.

[2Quick4u928]

Anthony,
I completed my pull in Italy under the apartment in a very low clearance garage (My pics on here). I jacked up the car just high enough to move the hoist under and crank up the motor, block off the radiator support to prevent the motor from contacting...as the motor just barely contacts the support and clears the wheels, lower the car down and wallah!!

Did you consider this? Hope it helps a bit

[Anthony10370]

That's what I'm doing. I already pulled the hood off and there is a paint line around hinge from crappy repaint. Also I think the the engine hoist I have would work from the side if I removed the fender and front wheel as it only needs a few inches more to reach the center of the motor and it has 360 degree casters so foreword movement is completely possible. See pic. My friend used this hoist to pull an engine from a supra and used the side method.

Here are some pics.



Hoist from side; other leg will fold down with the wheel removed and will fit a lot closer with the fender removed:


engine:



Here is the color of my newly painted intake:




I just got some coolant and other crap on the timing belt today when I was completely removing it so I'm going to replace it now.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by Anthony10370

that's how i did mine. Have the same hoist as you. I put mine on jackstands so i was still able to use the second leg.

[JhwShark]

I believe that hoist needs to be used with the legs down

[Anthony10370]

I put mine on jackstands so i was still able to use the second leg.

Yeah that's what I meant by taking the wheel off. I've used a hoist before With the wheel off both legs can roll under.

So I have run into a slight problem again. I have the left fender all but completely taken off I have all the bolts (i think) but it is still attached somewhere at the back. Is there some fastener below the windshield trim or something that I am unaware of that holds the rear of the fender to the body? I took out the bolts behind the vacuum reservoir.

Thanks,
Anthony.

[Arizona_928]

I didn't have to remove the fender but it was close. I used a heavy towel on the fender to prevent any rubbing.
I would look at it one more time before you remove the fender.

[garylewa]

Yep, there are bolts back there; way back there....mine also had a (for lack of a better word) black caulking on the seam where the wings meet the rest of the body. You will also have a bolt or screw on top of the wing way in the back where it is joined with the top cowl panel (the panel the wiper post come out of). I removed all of the bolts and screws from both wings and had to pull like hell to separate them from the body. I don't know what side you are working on but my drivers side had the cruise control servo that I had to remove first. The passenger side has the windshield washer bottle; this had to be removed to reach the back bolts/screws; the passenger side wing was real fun...........i strongly suggest working on your windshield washer pump (if its not working and you want it to work) while the engine is out; I just spent last week running new lines for all three pumps. The washer pump under the coolant bottle is a PITA.

[Danglerb]

Funny how hard some easy jobs are when you reinvent wheels.

I wouldn't try to lift anything without both legs locked down.

OTOH with caution, the lift arm has been known to work extended beyond the last locking position.

Nuts on the fenders are covered in Cosmolene, one side I eventually got off ok, the other I gave up on after a few hours and decided to wait until I could lift the car and remove the wheels.

[Anthony10370]

Yeah I just placed the lift there with one leg down to demonstrate the side fitment fender issue.

Would never use it without both legs down for stability.

[Pete R]

It looks like a pretty good hoist, I'm surprised it doesn't have more depth.. good luck

[Landseer]

Yeah, I'd be extending that boom a little, and though probably run on the edge of disaster. So long as I knew where the edge was...