What do I build?

[Russellh911]

Hi All,

I just picked up a 87 911 retired race car. I have a 71 911 T that I raced a decade ago that had been converted to IROC short hood bodywork. The 71 is going to get an RS or RSR build for fun. Plan to fix the 87 up and sell it.

Question of the day, if you had the bodywork available to redo the tired body parts on the 87, would you swap it out and paint it up to go to market as an IROC car?

Should I take the time to convert this 87 back to a street car outlaw? Lots of money to get an interior redone, but lots of money to replace all of the old safety equipment as well.

Go full in and backdate the car to short hood outlaw with 3.2L engine. That seems to be popular on the auction sites. Let me know what you think. Appreciate your time, Russ

[wayner]

I love the IROCs
Making nice one of those seems easy with you starting point.

As I said I love the IROC cars
i'm not sure the market does though?


What does BAT history say?
Seems to me Jeremy got $70k for his

(but then Ive always believed that it takes $70k to build one)

[1979-930]

If you are trying to fix it and sell for a few bucks. Then I would just fix what you have.
You may not recoup the extra money and time spent to convert to something else.
It will be different, cost less than a perfect RSR car and probably attract buyers for being affordable.
The challenge will be the emissions issue. You won't be able to sell it in CA without finding all the smog junk.
Everything was missing for my car and I paid $850.00 for a kit off a car from back east. It's not installed but at least I have it.

[juanbenae]

dude! I saw that on a yahoo linked article from a publication like motor trend or something less popular as a "ran when parked" sort of great project thing late last week. so funny. it was listed for like 12k or something with carbs. the mid era NASA sticker & the magic 8 ball door livery caught my attention even then.

[juanbenae]

they even touted the recaro race seat as I recall.....

[oakland]

Rs 3.0!

[BLACK3.2]

[Russellh911]

That's the car from the Road and Track online article. I live in the Houston area now and the car was 20 minutes from the house. Tub is in great shape and knowing of the guy who raced this car, he had it done right at the time. I suspect all the right suspension parts will be in place and that is a hot rod motor. Time will tell. I'll post more as I tear it down.

Thanks all for the comments and suggestions, keep them coming, I appreciate the group wisdom and opinions.

[juanbenae]

russ, did you used to race with PRC? your name sounds familiar.

toby

[Matt Monson]

Do it as an IROC “lightweight”. The LW comes from largely skipping the interior. Strip it. Put RS doorcards on it and no interior. Remove the safety equipment. Clean it and paint it white. Make sure it has a full dash with the right gauges. Cut the cage out and install a TRE bolt in half cage harness bar and some sporting seats. Spend any money on making the paint andbody look nice. Define the race suspension a bit, get it running right, and sell sell sell.

[wayner]

Im really starting to dig it just the way it is!

The ultimate 911 rat rod with cred...

[Matt Monson]

It needs to be eggplant or chartreuse to bring all the boys to the yard.

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by BLACK3.2

sweet.

[1979-930]

I wish a deal like that were close to me. I’d get it back to DE worthy and make a trainer car for my kid.


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[Russellh911]

Yep, I raced with PRC for a number of years. One of the original five of us in the Spec 911 class. Really good times, now 20 years ago.

[juanbenae]

right on russ! I knew the name sounded familiar.

my 1st races with them was late in the 09 season until the 2015 season in a garage built spec911. loved it, but it simply became too expensive vs. the amount of fun I was having at the end. building up the car was a huge part of the reward early on in the process. did we overlap at all or was it just you were a legend that lived on after your retirement?

laguna



sears leading a JWE and rothsport built/maintained cars and andy simpkinson in jims old car that he bought when his very original longhood racer became worth so much money... !





sorry, but no pics of me in the paddock cause my car was the prettiest thing I had going for me.....

[Matt Monson]

Hard to believe it's twenty years. Just yesterday I was chatting with Jerry Woods about the success of the series and what it’s become.

[ryans65]

We built a few BMW racecars and I always said that becoming a racecar is the highest honor anyone can bestow on a street car but it was also the end of the line in a vehicles timeline. Leave it as racy as possible, windowless, maybe a rollbar but thats it. Don't try to hide it or worse, reintegrate it back into society! HA

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Hard to believe it's twenty years. Just yesterday I was chatting with Jerry Woods about the success of the series and what it’s become.

the JWE cars were the cream of the crop for sure. Rich Walton of JWE who the class was the brainchild of has continued to set the standard in innovation and car development. they were the driving force behind rule changes that forwarded the development of the platform to the point their cars were almost in a class of their own. the injection systems that were ultimately allowed made my built carb'd 3.oL and the base 3.2 motor incapable of staying on pace. many of the JWE cars were raced by drivers much more skilled than me so there's that too..

ultimately in 16 or 17 they actually did draw up rules for another class based on the original sp911 car. had a lot to do with the discontinuation of the toyo RA-1 and them moving to the hooisers. im not completely familiar with all the advancements, but the motor options opened up significantly and they went to larger flares and tire sizes. a couple guys that remained in the sp911 class have reached out to me suggesting our dream had finally be realized that money was less of a driving force in a competitive car.

[juanbenae]

rich and a few other prc guys actually won the 25hr of thunder hill in a jerry woods built spec911 back in the day before the race became a proving ground for manufactures of dedicated racecars and it got serious, serious...