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Flieger 08-09-2013 11:07 AM

decklid hinges?

proffighter 08-09-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flieger (Post 7593421)
decklid hinges?

Hmmm does it really looks like? Hinge is correct, BUT it's only one. The left one is stock.
A little help:

It's at the left front fender...

Tom Sch 08-09-2013 11:50 AM

hello,

hinge for the filler flap?

Flieger 08-09-2013 01:01 PM

Because of the three bolt holes I thought they could be door hinges but they looked too small. But I don't look at the door hinges on my car very often. :D

proffighter 08-09-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Sch (Post 7593490)
hello,

hinge for the filler flap?

TADAhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/clap.gif

proffighter 08-30-2013 08:51 AM

Finally some more to show
 
Finished the camber plates. Color change and DIY bushes to save weight (another 136g) and lift strut position. Furhter I drilled the battery mount

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377881209.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377881379.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377881446.jpg

speednme1 08-30-2013 09:46 AM

Wow Roland your machining skills are impressive...can't wait to see your car completed.

proffighter 08-30-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speednme1 (Post 7629962)
Wow Roland your machining skills are impressive...can't wait to see your car completed.

ThanksSmileWavy

Me too... But we have to be patient. Not this year.

chicabum 08-30-2013 10:35 PM

Amazing work. I was mesmerized. Did you replace hood and rear tail? Someone know the diference in weigh between carbon and fiberglass, For the replaceable parts?
What do you expect the final weight to be?

proffighter 08-31-2013 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicabum (Post 7631127)
Amazing work. I was mesmerized. Did you replace hood and rear tail? Someone know the diference in weigh between carbon and fiberglass, For the replaceable parts?
What do you expect the final weight to be?

Thank you:)

Hood is stock but drilled. Rear deck lid as well:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377947707.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377947732.jpg

Tail is homemade out of FG/epoxy, check my thread:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/497946-homemade-whaletail.html

Carbon itself is about 25%percent lighter than FG. Different specs at all, so not comparable only by weight. Same for aramid, even more like steel, very durable, but not easy to work with, mulish stuff, ask me how I know;)

I have no idea how much the car will weight in the end and there is no goal. I just can tell that it was at the beginning of this thread about 1040kg and will be maybe under 1000kg at the and, we will see...

Flieger 08-31-2013 10:01 AM

The main determinant of weight with composite parts is the resin volume fraction. If you do a wet layup and don't squeeze much resin out the parts weigh a ton. If you use pre-preg and put it in an autoclave you have almost the minimum amount of resin so the parts are lightest and strongest. Extra resin doesn't gain you any strength. Just make sure you don't have dry fibers.

911-2,8-RSracer 09-15-2013 12:03 PM

Hi Roland, any news?

aseem 09-15-2013 03:23 PM

Fantastic thread Roland. I'm amazed of your relentless drilling, machining and anodizing work. You are a very good DIY representative. How can the rest of us send away parts for anodizing now, after reading your thread. Your parts looks beautiful.


In your search for a lighter car, have you seen this site from DP: Innen Look at that ventilation box, reducing the wight from 6500 grams to 300. This must be something for you? There are some other trick parts there as well, but expensive. I talked to DP Motorsports at Techno Classica Essen this year, and they had some really nice light weight builds there. I test sat this, which is really nice (not a turbo though): Sleeper marks 50 years of Porsche 911 - IOL Motoring | IOL.co.za

For those unfamiliar with German, "federleighte elfer" means feather light eleven

smurfbus 09-15-2013 10:02 PM

Nice find that BOX. We do have MOT requirements for the FAN but that box should work just fine in everyday driving.

proffighter 09-22-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911-2,8-RSracer (Post 7657510)
Hi Roland, any news?

I was in vacation in Sardegna until today, so I maybe this week I will make some more progress to show...

proffighter 09-22-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aseem (Post 7657773)
Fantastic thread Roland. I'm amazed of your relentless drilling, machining and anodizing work. You are a very good DIY representative. How can the rest of us send away parts for anodizing now, after reading your thread. Your parts looks beautiful.


In your search for a lighter car, have you seen this site from DP: Innen Look at that ventilation box, reducing the wight from 6500 grams to 300. This must be something for you?

Arnljot

Thanks for the compliments!SmileWavy

I've seen this box a while ago, but don't liked it:

First of all, the weight of 300gr is without any blower fan, the stock one is not heavier for sure. The 6500gr is maybe correct with fan and all stock tubing heater regulation etc... I will weight my setup this week to give you an idea of my thoughts and solution. The DP box needs a fan somewhere and if you use one with equal performance, then I doubt any weight saving or improvement at all

proffighter 09-24-2013 08:50 AM

Today, I checked the weight of my setup:

Box, fan and all ducting is almost 3200gr. Add a few gramms for some clamps and knob and you'll end-up at 3250gr or so

For Heater unit and overall pic check this:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/566192-gas-heater-installation.html

I did not weighted the box alone, but without fan it won't be heavier then the 300gr of the DP box. Or even lighter;)

Conclusion:
With the DP box you still need fan, ducting, etc... and therefore I cannot see any improvement

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380041333.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380041362.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380041391.jpg

PS Be sure I will find some weight saving potential here too...

proffighter 10-04-2013 11:59 AM

Biggest weight saving ever ;-)
 
I made some backing plates for the Tarett front sway bar out of stainless steel, went out fine, but thought I could be nicer...

So I decided to made some out of high strength aluminum 7075, what I use for most of my homemade parts. Saved another 20gr over the SS ones:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380916739.jpg

BTW Pic does not show really, but of course there are M8 threads in the part as well

TurboKraft 10-04-2013 12:06 PM

So -- when do we start a pool for guesses on this car's final weight? ;-)

proffighter 10-04-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboKraft (Post 7689299)
So -- when do we start a pool for guesses on this car's final weight? ;-)

I have no idea, but lighter than before I guess:D

However, I do not know, what comes into my mind during the assembly, I tend to think about every part while just mounting. Sometimes it stays, sometimes not.

HAHAHA, BS most of the time: NOThttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...ys/men_ani.gif

proffighter 10-04-2013 01:13 PM

Advanced machining mode on:

I had a bit of rattle when I made those plates due their triangular shape. That's the price for a small lathe. Would be better to cut the edges after, but then I loose more of the nice stuff in the dustbin. For a pro they look horrible I guess, but hey, who cares? Me not.

And every measurement is within 5/100mm (at least at the end;))

aseem 10-04-2013 01:19 PM

950 to 1000 Kg Turbo should be a nice ride. I have been thinking in those terms myself, but going through Rolands thread, I don't know if I have the will power to do it.

proffighter 10-04-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aseem (Post 7689424)
950 to 1000 Kg Turbo should be a nice ride. I have been thinking in those terms myself, but going through Rolands thread, I don't know if I have the will power to do it.

It doesn't need that much power but time, much time...

proffighter 10-04-2013 01:36 PM

Amost forgot a part to show, this time raw before anodizing. Did not weight, too light;)

Idle screw

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380922462.jpg

Of course hollow drilled

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1380922488.jpg

Maybe I should stop showing every single part I made, this way the thread will end up in a guiness record. Or what do you guys think?

WinRice 10-04-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 7689442)
It doesn't need that much power but time, much time...

And that's why I was shocked to find out you had a girl friend! That must be one patient woman!

All kidding aside, I enjoy watching the progress.

proffighter 10-04-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinRice (Post 7689455)
And that's why I was shocked to find out you had a girl friend! That must be one patient woman!

That has to be due my lovers quality:D

Seriously, we both have our passions and the fact, that we still not live together, helps to spend some time for. But I guess it would be equal if we share the home once in the future.

WinRice 10-04-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 7689468)
that has to be due my lovers quality:d


lol

Ronnie's.930 10-04-2013 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by proffighter (Post 7689454)
Maybe I should stop showing every single part I made, this way the thread will end up in a guiness record. Or what do you guys think?

Roland, please continue to post pictures of your awesome, home-made parts, as I know that I, along with probably everyone that looks at this thread, love to see your work!

Flieger 10-04-2013 07:17 PM

I agree. We want more posts! :)

proffighter 10-24-2013 04:08 AM

Nothing to show at the moment guys, but I have found some possible weight saving once more:

As I have no more TB's, I don't need the the toothed end of the control arms anymore and on the back end, there is some material left due the fact that the RSR bushes are shorter. Therefore I will cut-off at the bushes +2mm

What do you think?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1382616481.jpg

911 tweaks 10-24-2013 04:42 AM

great idea...I would put a plastic or alum cap/plug in the end so road debris does not enter the tubes & rust proof/coat the insides of the tubes too...
looking great... :-)

proffighter 10-24-2013 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 tweaks (Post 7720005)
great idea...I would put a plastic or alum cap/plug in the end so road debris does not enter the tubes & rust proof/coat the insides of the tubes too...
looking great... :-)

Had the same thought. Plastic is lighter... and rust protection of course a must

proffighter 10-26-2013 12:14 AM

So it's done, cut-away the ends. Saved 210gr each side. I decided not to close with plugs but painted the inside too, this way no humidity can stay

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1382775180.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1382775206.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1382775232.jpg

911 tweaks 10-26-2013 04:16 AM

nice roland...good thinking about possible moisture build up inside tubes and possible rust...I still think a plug w/ a sm center hole in it & a sm semi circle "bite" out of the bottom edge of plug to allow the tube to breath & allow moisture to drip out if it ever has enough in it by the bite you take out of the edge of the plug...just some early morning thoughts of mine..

proffighter 11-08-2013 01:22 PM

Tarett improvement next step
 
Made some more aluminum nuts for the sway bar linkages. A few gramms saved here too:)

Further some spacers (black)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1383949351.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1383949373.jpg

pkabush 11-08-2013 02:57 PM

Please don't stop posting your progress. No matter how small.
I never thought of an idle screw as Porsche porn (there's gotta be a joke in there) but those parts are jaw dropping.
Simply amazing work. Keep it up.

aseem 11-08-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkabush (Post 7746197)
please don't stop posting your progress. No matter how small.
I never thought of an idle screw as porsche porn (there's gotta be a joke in there) but those parts are jaw dropping.
Simply amazing work. Keep it up.

+1

proffighter 11-13-2013 02:11 PM

Made some more nuts, this time for easier sway bar adjustment (and weight saving of course;) )

... and when I just started making them, I found them from Tarett too for only 16USD each, BUT mine are cheaper:D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1384384216.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1384384238.jpg

Kozmo930 11-17-2013 06:51 PM

Roland as always great pieces you make .... a little off topic but your pics did wonders for me , almost have the intercooler in place now .Thanks Kozmo

proffighter 11-21-2013 12:52 PM

As I plan to mount some front brake ducts, I have fitted some air shields at the hub. This time not selfmade, only drawing was from me. A friend made the CAD and then let lasercut that cheap, it makes no sense to DIY

At least anodizing is homemade;)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1385070691.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1385070726.jpg

PS Just for your interest: They are aluminum 2mm thick...


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