OT. why you shouldn't try to run

[Bob Hancock]

Originally Posted by OwenM

Yes, well, sorry to say that’s the sort of thing that happens in a gun crazy society.

Owen just get a haircut. This incident had nothing to do with the second amendment.....one you folks down under have never had.

[OwenM]

The auto shotgun is cool but this Minigun video is f@$king awesome.

YouTube - Crazy Mini-Gun

If you think I’m of the opinion that guns are not fun, your wrong.

[Bob Hancock]

Originally Posted by macfly

As a born Brit I agree with you, but here in America there is a huge emotional attachment to the freedom to own, and carry guns. This no doubt greatly increases the fear that caused the idiot in the first post use his.

More guns certainly means more fear that everyone else has one, and is about to use it on you. They should not let either the fearful or the trigger happy become law enforcement officers.

Some of that fear can be useful, Mac. If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night they don't need to fear me reaching for a cell phone to call the Sheriff. They need to fear a .357 round in the chest.

[SergioK]

I hate it when they don't have the natural audio to go along with the video. Covering the sound of a helicopter gunship with a song is just plain wrong.

Back to topic though... imagine if the car did not have the in-dash video setup? I'm pretty sure the LEO wouldn't be facing a trial right now if that were the case.

[Bob Hancock]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I'm glad that life is so good outside of the US. Most of us are happy enough here too despite the shortcomings of our country.

If life is so good elsewhere and so awful here, I wonder why everyone wants to come here. Maybe to spread their joy? I wish they'd just stay at home.

[PFFOG]

Originally Posted by SergioK

I hate it when they don't have the natural audio to go along with the video. Covering the sound of a helicopter gunship with a song is just plain wrong.

Back to topic though... imagine if the car did not have the in-dash video setup? I'm pretty sure the LEO wouldn't be facing a trial right now if that were the case.

Very true, it protects both parties. In general I think most cops have good intentions and I admire them for their service, but as said their, are a few that spoil it for the others.

We have all meet the cowboys with a Napoleon complex, or were picked on in High School and so they want to get back at every one else.

Part of the problem is the "brotherhood" mentality, that keeps them from policing their own ranks and getting rid of the bad ones. Same for Dr's and Lawyers, the few bad, can ruin it for the good, but they don't keep their own ranks above reproach, so it comes back to bite all of them them.

[martincito]

Originally Posted by Bob Hancock

If life is so good elsewhere and so awful here, I wonder why everyone wants to come here. Maybe to spread their joy? I wish they'd just stay at home.

All the critics about the U.S. in this thread are being done by Americans or foreigners that don't live here.
Why are you posting this cheap anti immigrant comment?

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by OwenM

You would not have been chased off by the cops in that situation here you would have been arrested because the trade or sale of firearms without going through a licensed firearms dealer or a government agency is illegal.

Ditto in some states here too, but not in AZ. Obviously, I'd not try such a thing without being totally clear on the law. In fact, I even argued for a minute with the cop (I was openly wearing a .45 on my hip too). He said nothing about that. He said we were taking advantage of people. I countered, "But you guys ran out of gift cards and we're offering cash! How is that taking advantage of anyone?" But we were in a church parking lot and the cop said the church wanted us to leave. That suffices as a trespassing warning and he knew I knew that. So we left and went to the police station, which is public property and where we were breaking no laws. Face to face transactions between residents of AZ are totally legal here. I've bought and sold plenty of guns in parking lots.

[Bob Hancock]

Originally Posted by martincito

All the critics about the U.S. in this thread are being done by Americans or foreigners that don't live here.
Why are you posting this cheap anti immigrant comment?

Not cheap and not anti-immigrant. My mother came through Ellis Island....legally....she didn't complain...she learned English, she became an American and defended same. She was never a Czech-American...but an American. What are you? Have you truly assimilated or still living in the netherworld of here and there? Step up Marine.....getting tired of all the belly-aching, that's all.

[OwenM]

Originally Posted by Bob Hancock

If life is so good elsewhere and so awful here, I wonder why everyone wants to come here. Maybe to spread their joy? I wish they'd just stay at home.

What’s the deal with that, Australians don’t even need a Visa to visit the US as we are not considered likely to overstay.

[Bob Hancock]

Originally Posted by OwenM

What’s the deal with that, Australians don’t even need a Visa to visit the US as we are not considered likely to overstay.

Mine was a comment piggy-backing off of another person's words. Take it however you choose. Actually, anyone is welcome here as far as I'm concerned. Just be nice. Aussies never have trouble with that from what I've seen.

[OwenM]

Originally Posted by Bob Hancock

Owen just get a haircut. This incident had nothing to do with the second amendment.....one you folks down under have never had.

In most places gun ownership is a privilege not a right and that privilege can be revoked if you are deemed unsuitable to own a firearm, just like your driver’s licence can be revoked it you disobey the road rules. It seems the situation is not much different in the US.

[MaineRoads]

Originally Posted by Bob Hancock

Not cheap and not anti-immigrant. My mother came through Ellis Island....legally....she didn't complain...she learned English, she became an American and defended same. She was never a Czech-American...but an American. What are you? Have you truly assimilated or still living in the netherworld of here and there? Step up Marine.....getting tired of all the belly-aching, that's all.

+ one million.

[SergioK]

Originally Posted by EZ-RIDER

... they're here for the Money

That includes probably about 99% of all the immigrants who came to this country. The only two groups that don't fall in that category are Native American Indians and those who sought political/religious asylum.

And as a reminder... AZ, CA, TX all used to be part of Mexico...

[cageyar]

Originally Posted by SergioK

And as a reminder... AZ, CA, TX all used to be part of Mexico...

Key word. It's U.S. territory now.

[sgoodwin]

Originally Posted by OwenM

In most places gun ownership is a privilege not a right and that privilege can be revoked if you are deemed unsuitable to own a firearm, just like your driver’s licence can be revoked it you disobey the road rules. It seems the situation is not much different in the US.

I believe the Supreme court would disagree with you. It is most definately a right & not at some politicans whim to deny or allow as it is in your country. As you say you cannot carry a concealed firearm, but as you can see from others responses it is very common here. Only felons are denied this right & even that has not always been true.

[EZ-RIDER]

What do you think would happen if the roll was reversed! Americans going South

[martincito]

Originally Posted by EZ-RIDER

Their are 11 to 12 million illegals here in the USA, 62% are from Mexico and 8% are from Central and South America. They are breaking the law by being here ! Then they complain about the laws being unjust! They don't want to become Americans, their here for the Money

Totally agree with you they come here for the money, as the rest of the population of this country. Eventually they'll integrate with the local culture and become American. Actually their kids unfortunately will not be able to speak spanish. I'm happy that you didn't say that they are coming for the freedom.

Originally Posted by EZ-RIDER

Yes and they came for a better life learned English and were proud to become Americans not the case with most illegals

I'm sure that all of them can pronounce "San Francisco", "Los Angeles", "El Paso" etc.. better than you.

BTW, I've lived in other countries and I believe that the U.S. is the best country in the world to be a foreigner. No kidding.

[OwenM]

Originally Posted by sgoodwin

Only felons are denied this right & even that has not always been true.

That was my point, if you commit a felony your “right” to own a firearm is revoked.
At what point does a right become a privilege?

[EZ-RIDER]

So you're telling me that it's Okay to come here illegally and break our laws