The ammo shortage is getting out of hand!

[Rot 911]

You would think at some point they would reach saturation with the people that are doing the panic buying.

[varmint]

Originally Posted by Rot 911

You would think at some point they would reach saturation with the people that are doing the panic buying.

i go to the range once a month and blow through a couple hundred rounds. at that rate i don't see my hoard lasting through the current administration. and i don't know what the laws will be at the end.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by varmint

i go to the range once a month and blow through a couple hundred rounds. at that rate i don't see my hoard lasting through the current administration. and i don't know what the laws will be at the end.

Which is why I'm thinking of getting a snap-cap laser system. Even at $90 it will pay for itself in no time.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by tabs

Ahh why do ya think this is going on?

Because people have gone absolutely nucking futs.

[fintstone]

probably because of H.R. 5717 https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text that apparently:

-creates a nationwide gun registry for new and existing guns including location;
-requires individuals to obtain a license to purchase, acquire, or possess a firearm or ammunition;
-raises the minimum age—from 18 years to 21 years—to purchase firearms and ammunition;
-establishes new background check requirements for firearm transfers between private parties;
-requires law enforcement agencies to be notified following a firearms-related background check that results in a denial;
-(implements national "Red Flag" gun confiscation) creates a statutory process for a family or household member to petition a court for an extreme -risk protection order to remove firearms from an individual who poses a risk of committing violence;
-ban the sale of almost all semiautomatic rifles and magazines (restricts the import, sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices);
-ban home builds and suppressors (restricts the manufacture, sale, transfer, purchase, or receipt of ghost guns (i.e., guns without serial numbers));
-makes trafficking in firearms a stand-alone criminal offense;
-Force FFLs to spend massive amounts of money to comply with new "security" requirements (requires federally licensed gun dealers to submit and annually certify compliance with a security plan to detect and deter firearm theft);
-expand "Gun Free Zones";
-removes limitations on the civil liability of gun manufacturers;
-allows the Consumer Product Safety Commission to issue safety standards for firearms and firearm components;
-taxes guns at 30% and ammo at 50%;
-rations guns by making it illegal to purchase more than one firearm in a 30-day period

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Which is why I'm thinking of getting a snap-cap laser system. Even at $90 it will pay for itself in no time.

I use the laser snap cap with Itarget Pro. It's okay. Nothing like live fire though.

[red-beard]

This is being pushed by one of our local Reps, Shelia Jackson Lee, and it hurts her largest demographic the most. It will prevent lower income people from protecting themselves more than any other group.

[cabmandone]

I'm not overly worried about it. It will never stand up to legal challenges.

[red-beard]

I'm not worried either. It won't affect any of the firearms I own...

[tabs]

giving up your guns is a small price to pay for safety.

[Por_sha911]

The game is ask for too much and then settle for
-a national registry
-a license required before you can own a gun
-an extra tax on guns and ammo smaller than what was requested.

This way they can get what they wanted and the American people have given away yet another part of the Constitution.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by red-beard

This is being pushed by one of our local Reps, Shelia Jackson Lee, and it hurts her largest demographic the most. It will prevent lower income people from protecting themselves more than any other group.

Well of course it is those people that you have to fear the most.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

The game is ask for too much and then settle for
-a national registry
-a license required before you can own a gun
-an extra tax on guns and ammo smaller than what was requested.

This way they can get what they wanted and the American people have given away yet another part of the Constitution.

None of that will happen. The idea that it will happen is exactly why people have lost their f'ing minds. Fear is a powerful motivator. It makes otherwise sensible people do totally crazy things.

[Arizona_928]

shall not be infringed.....



I'm still waiting on the buy backs to come. You will see the handmade/homemade single shots come out of my garage in masses.....

[Jeff Higgins]

I'm weathering this one the same way I weathered the last one - air guns. I still get meaningful practice every day, without even leaving my home. And believe me - just a dozen rounds, once a day, will improve your shooting to a far greater degree than 200 rounds once a month.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I'm weathering this one the same way I weathered the last one - air guns. I still get meaningful practice every day, without even leaving my home. And believe me - just a dozen rounds, once a day, will improve your shooting to a far greater degree than 200 rounds once a month.

I should pull mine out. The only issue is the .22 caliber break action I have sounds the same as and as loud as a .22LR. I do have a .177 that is "quieter".

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

shall not be infringed.....



I'm still waiting on the buy backs to come. You will see the handmade/homemade single shots come out of my garage in masses.....

Since the gov't has never sold me a gun, they can't buy any of mine back. Eff them.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by red-beard

I should pull mine out. The only issue is the .22 caliber break action I have sounds the same as and as loud as a .22LR. I do have a .177 that is "quieter".

Funny, I just bought a "moderator" (as Weihrauch calls them) for my HW 80 spring-piston rifle. I was very disappointed - it made no difference in the sound level whatsoever.



The majority of the noise from these spring-piston guns comes from the action of the piston slapping forward. I have found they all get a lot quieter as the break in. Granted, it also seems to take 1,000 rounds or more to properly break one in, but they do get quieter.

[Arizona_928]

they're subsonic..... ^^^

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

I actually read an article about the shortage. There were interviews with major manufacturers. They are producing as much as possible, but everyone is in full panic buying mode right now, and it creates a self fulfilling prophecy. People walk in and see empty shelves, and buy anything they can get their hands on at any price, even if they don't need it. I guess there are guys sitting out there with 500 rounds of buckshot. WTF are you going to do with it?

I'm starting to doubt that line. I check everyday and there is never anything available. How is that possible?