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Nick - Don't feel bad, there are several headlines out there that say essentially what you said.
On your side note, I continue being in the Moderna Study. They are tracking antibodies for anyone in the Phase 1,2 & 3 trails. I have my next blood draw in September. Some of the new data is reviewing the regular people out there after getting the vaccine. Data is extremely encouraging! And the headline of this thread, we who have been vaccinated can soon go back to normal. And that scares a lot of people. Masks are going to still be around for a long time.
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The pessimist says the glass is half empty. The engineer says the glass is too big.
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No, the Engineer says "The glass is not optimized for the fluid volume"
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Might be the wrong thread but Yahoo News is reporting the new COVID numbers in Michigan are the worst in the nation.
Something like four of the worst ten urban per capita infection resurgence numbers nation-wide are in SE Michigan. Fraü is facing a dilemma. What I think is happening is that everything we've tried so far has failed (or is failing) with the only upside being how much we've learned treatment-wise on how to save lives. What I fear is these vaccs are somehow incubating a serious immune response to a relatively benign endemic coronavirus. Like say, for example, the common cold becomes deadly. |
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The vaccines stop the spread. You don't get sick or transmit it. The issue with mutation is the more people infected, the higher chance of a mutation.
COVID is a very stable virus, unlike influenza. The issue is the extreme number of infected people. The more people vaccinated, the more quickly they are vaccinated, the slower mutations will occur.
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Got my first shot of Pfizer yesterday AM, no issues at all... feeling totally normal. My buddy who got the shot at the same time I did had Covid back in November and he said he felt a bit out of sorts last night but is good to go today.
Here's what it looked like where I got my shot (CenturyLink field, home of the Seahawks), easy breezy beautiful covergirl ![]() ![]()
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The wife got her first Pfizer shot a couple of days ago. She's had no problems other than a sore arm. I have my appointment next week. I must admit that Georgia has done a great job of organizing and administering these vaccines.
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Got my first Moderna Friday evening. Woke up Saturday feeling great, worked in the yard planting, cleaning up and grilling Carne Asada and Artichokes. Drank 4-5 beers (Coors).
Woke up early Sunday to put the Easter pork roast in the oven, started to feel joint soreness and fatigue. About 10am nausea and diarrhea then threw up a few times. Pounding water and Gatorade, I couldn't eat a thing all day, really felt like crap. Woke up today feeling a bit better but still woozy. Went to the drugstore for some Mylanta and talked to the pharmacist. Alcohol is no bueno 2 days before and 2 days after the shot. At least now I know, feeling better as the morning goes on.
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Surprised to read of your symptoms after the first shot. Didn’t think that was very common. Got my first Pfizer shot last week. Sore arm for a day. Kind of wondering how necessary the second shot really is.
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Hey, it was a beautiful day high 80's. Needed something watery to quench the thirst!
![]() I think I did have COVID before, just didn't have much access to testing when I wasn't working and very mild symptoms. I think this first shot kicked in the antibodies big time. Feeling much better now.
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As far as symptoms after the first shot, I'm not an MD but the hypothesis I've heard is that the reason the second shot gives many people trouble is that your body is already attuned to the virus due to the first shot i.e. your body recognizes the virus the second time and bellows "not in MY house!" before laying the smackdown, thus the stronger reaction to the second shot. It's a good thing, your body is having an immune reaction as it should. In the case of my buddy who had a tough 24 hours after his first shot, he had Covid back in November so his assumption (which seems valid to me but again, I'm not an MD and neither is he) is that he was having a strong immune reaction to shot #1 precisely because of his November bout of Covid... his body already has immune response from the November encounter with the virus so it has the "not in MY house!" response to shot #1.
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I am waiting on my second Pfizer shot in two days. My wife and both our sets of parents are fully vaccinated. I am looking forward to returning to some semblance of normalcy.
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Got my first shot this morning (Moderna). So far ^b#m)*@q*%6# whooa what the hell was that?
Just kidding i'm fine.
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The article beard likes simply says the AZ tax gives "substantial protection" NOT that transmission is ZERO. |
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I'll admit that seeing my parents smiling and enjoying having the family together for Easter (mostly outside since it was a BEAUTIFUL day) was pretty sweet. Everyone in attendance other than my youngest has been vaccinated. We just made sure my daughter kept her distance and spent as much time outside as possible away from my parents just to be safe. She was fine with it and totally understood which made it a lot easier.
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