Sheepdog protecting his flock

[Scott Douglas]

This sign is newly erected since a coyote attacked a toddler at the beach.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Pyrenees were bred to protect livestock from wolves and bears so we'll up for a tangle with coyotes

A friend has one, as we're part of the flock it's just s great big cuddly dog to us

We have a Karst Shepherd, great dog, not as big but very similar as it too is a livestock guardian dog, definitely has strong protection genes

[mjohnson]

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr

...definitely has strong protection genes

Heh. Our standard poodle has gone full terrier and is destroying the back yard.

I'd love for him to just focus on the 'yotes - at 60lbs I'd imagine he could hold his own, if he wasn't distracted by ground squirrels and (squirrel!!). Seriously, they're supposed to be smart dogs but I'm wondering...

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas

This sign is newly erected since a coyote attacked a toddler at the beach.

How about right under "if a coyote approaches you:"

Shoot the goddamned thing.

But, yeah, I know. Populated area. Worse yet, California.

Interesting times. Predators that can actually do us harm move freely among us in some areas. They have lost all of their natural fear of us. I think most of us can guess at the reasons for that.

[Evans, Marv]

I live in a rural area. Once in a while you'll hear a gun shot any time of day into the early night in addition to people practicing some times. We hear coyotes at night - lots of them. But they are scared of people. They probably hear gun shots at times too.

[pwd72s]

Hopefully the coyote is on the ground before the sound of the shot reaches him..same sounds of shots here...but not many Coyotes about. Every year sheep herds are brought in to graze the ryegrass fields.

[Evans, Marv]

I have a small .22LR stainless revolver I carry on hikes in the local mountains since around 1996, when a lady was killed by a mountain lion on a hiking route I would take sometimes. There have been isolated instances of problems with coyotes over time too. My wife takes walks each morning of about 3 to 4 miles. I always make sure she carries pepper spray and that little .22 pistol.

[KFC911]

Coyotes didn't used to be here, but have appeared over the last two decades. My former LEO tennant killed one behind his house which has several acres of woods behind it .... right in the middle of the city. My back fence is the "city limits line" which also has a fairly large area of woods with lots of critters living there or passing through. I spotted a 'yote about 10' behind my fence about 10 years ago, but only had my .45 ACP handy and didn't have a shot. Now I keep the Marlin .357 handy .... a shot from my deck would technically be illegal here in suburbia, but I would shoot and then immediately go back inside if the opportunity came. Haven't seen it since....

"Yeah ... I heard what sounded like a gunshot "

I have places to shoot, but could also step a foot behind my fence and shoot legally too .... humans, pets, suburbia, woods habitat, coyotes .....

One of the above does NOT belong... I will take the shot.... but that's just me.

[GH85Carrera]

Critters are amazing how they adapt to human suburban life. last week, on a 4 lane road with a 45 MPH speed limit I saw a beaver as road kill in an area surround by commercial buildings. We have seen a few coyotes in the general area within 5 miles, but none in our immediate area.

[aschen]

yeah definately a pyr

Had a couple of them growing up. Crazy how lazy and chill those dogs are for 99.999% of their existence, but can turn viscous when protecting their domain

Watched our dog Rocky turn a racoon into ground beef, A dog whose favorite passed time was sleeping on the air conditioner vent or begging for pets. Didnt think he had it in him

[flatbutt]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coyote-drags-2-year-old-just-seconds-after-she-s-taken-out-of-car-seat-in-ambush-captured-on-video/ar-AA14TpHF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=503f73340b5043e5a7280115e39ea95e

[jyl]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Great story. Damn coyotes...

We had two in our front yard just a couple of days ago. We've been in the same house for over 30 years, which used to be outside of the city in a semi-rural, unincorporated part of the county. "Suburban creep" has since engulfed us and, with that, we thought the coyotes (and bears and cougars) would be pushed out. Bears and cougars have become exceedingly rare around here (although they still trap and relocate one or the other every few years), but the coyotes are thicker than ever. Anyone leaving a pet outside after dark eventually loses it, even big dogs, like Labs and such.

I used to shoot them in the neighborhood, but I was told by the police after we became incorporated that is was illegal to do so inside of city limits. They are wrong, of course (I've studied the applicable law, and have consulted a lawyer as well), but it just wouldn't be worth the hassle to prove they are wrong. Meanwhile, new residents, who don't know any better, keep losing pets. Signs on telephone poles tell the story.

I see a longbow in your future

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by jyl

I see a longbow in your future

A cross bow is a lot easier to be accurate with, and for beginners or people not in the prime of youth, with bad shoulders, a modern cross bow is a perfect solution.

[Jeff Higgins]

Unfortunately, here in Washington, anything that launches a projectile of any kind by any means is legally considered a "firearm", at least with regards to where it can be discharged. A pea shooter is a "firearm" under Washington law in this respect, and cannot be discharged within city limits. Granted, not all "firearms" have the purchasing, transfer, and ownership restrictions imposed upon guns, but discharging any form of a "firearm" in the city will get us in trouble.

Washington does have a "nuisance wildlife" law, which allows us to dispatch "nuisance wildlife" as necessary. Under this law, we can even use a real firearm - a rifle, shotgun, or handgun - within city limits. Coyotes certainly fall within this category. So, yes, it is entirely legal for me to shoot and kill a coyote in my neighborhood.

But, alas, I've had this conversation with police officers in my neighborhood more than once. Nice, hard working guys and gals, but totally ignorant of this law. It's kind of outside their purview, being a "fish and game" administered kind of thing. Not something local cops respond to every day by any means. But, regardless of that, they are cops - always right, never in doubt, absolutely sure they "know" it's illegal to discharge a firearm within city limits under any circumstances. The ones I've spoken with cannot even be bothered to look it up, even with a computer in their car and me standing there with the RCW (Revised Code of Washington) in hand. So, yeah, pretty sure I would be arrested, the gun confiscated, and it would wind up costing me a good deal of time and money to combat their ignorance. Just not worth it.

[RobFrost]

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[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by aschen

yeah definately a pyr

Had a couple of them growing up. Crazy how lazy and chill those dogs are for 99.999% of their existence, but can turn viscous when protecting their domain

Watched our dog Rocky turn a racoon into ground beef, A dog whose favorite passed time was sleeping on the air conditioner vent or begging for pets. Didnt think he had it in him

Rocky? Racoon?

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

A cross bow is a lot easier to be accurate with, and for beginners or people not in the prime of youth, with bad shoulders, a modern cross bow is a perfect solution.

Or a flaming ball of tar and straw launched from a trebuchet if you're not that accurate

[aschen]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Rocky? Racoon?

Ironically, he was 100% named after that song by me at age around 13, was in a huge beetles phase at the time.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr

Or a flaming ball of tar and straw launched from a trebuchet if you're not that accurate

Thou art now talking! I be picking up what thou art putting down, good sir!

[rusnak]

Coyotes are smart and adaptable. They've been spotted in urban areas across the United States, and are now endemic. They have been known to attack and kill pets in suburban and urban parks, including the SF Bay area and Los Angeles in California.

The worrying part is that in more rural states, they have interbred with wolves. The Coy-Wolf is a thing. It will attack humans. So I say, yes shoot the goddamn thing if you spot one.