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I had a couple of Kohler toilers. Good quality but awful to get parts for. Even the flapper valves all different.

Don't be shocked to find out he spent an hour or two finding the right part. I spent at least four hours searching for mine.

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Shoe string would have worked
A freaking paper clip would have worked!
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My Wife recently called a plumber when I was out of town.....they told her the pressure regulator was leaking and gave her a quote of $5000 to replace the main to the house as well as install a new pressure regulator. They were so nice they even offered to start the work the same day! Unfortunately, our home was built in 1927 and still does not have a pressure regulator. When I got home I replaced the leaking hose to the water heater that was the reason why we had such a high water bill leading to her calling the plumber. Fortunately my Wife only got a quote.

When it comes to working on a home I have found that there are good and bad contractors, electricians, handymen, etc. I just have never come across a good fair plumber for some reason (I am sure they are out there somewhere).
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I've had this happen on a few toilets and always got some cheap, Chinese junk kit at Home Depot and fixed it myself in 15 min. Never cost more than about $10. For what you paid, you could have bought all Snap-On tools for the job and still done it in less time than it takes to drive to a hardware store.
Do you know how many tubing cutters I've purchased over the years for this reason? Sometimes I can find one, if I'm at my house...Last time I was in Mexico...

Sometimes, you can find the parts and the tools you need, at the dollar store.
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Things I won't do:

Drywall & texturing
Copper piping
Changing oil in the cars. Motorcycles - no problem
Oh, a 993 oil change is a lot of fun. No job in the world is worse than plug wires on a 993.
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oh, a 993 oil change is a lot of fun. No job in the world is worse than plug wires on a 993.
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Well the answer I was looking for was that "most tradespeople are unprincipled swine".

I can't remember when the last time was that I have had a tradesperson in (in the last few years) that was even remotely capable, and whose work was worth was even remotely the number on the invoice.

Maybe this is just the town in which we happen to live here.

But I don't know what it is about North America. We live ion Europe part-time, and I've spent a lot of time in Asia, but I have never had this kind of crap in either place.

There is sort of a base-line minimum expectation of competence and value-for-money in Europe and Asia, which never seems to be met here.

Instead all trades-people here seem to come from the "smash and grab" and "rape and pillage" school of "deep incompetence".

I may have to shoot the next one in order to prove a point.
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MIL had a burst hose on the washing machine. Invoice from the "Big Yellow Page Ad" plumber? $400.

Next time call "Joe's Plumbing" or "Larry the Handyman". You'll be treated much more fairly.

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Dottore, did he not fix the problem? How was he incompetent? For not having the right part in his truck? Incompetent is misdiagnosing the problem a few times and charging you for the entire time it takes him to get it right. When I've been in a real pickle, I was willing to pay whatever it took to fix something. Go to any car dealership with an emergency problem and see what it costs you. I've had to pay whatever they charged when I was stranded and had no tools or spare parts with me. Last time was on July 4th when I had a tire blowout in the most remote part of the Mojave Desert in Nevada (look up CalNevAri on the map), after everything had closed on a Saturday on a holiday weekend. Man, that was an expensive day. But what the hell else was I gonna do? It's not like tow trucks and tire repair shops are sprinkled throughout the desert.

I got gouged by a plumber a few years ago and have had the same problem several times in subsequent houses. Now I know how to fix it for free. Expect that the charges are directly proportional to how badly you need it fixed.
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BTW, I used to sell Yellow Page ads. Some of those you see on the back cover or the peel off magnets on the front cover can run upwards of $10k PER MONTH. They need to make that money back somewhere.
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Oh, you're an attorney? Nevermind. My RE attorney billed me $1200 to read a 3-page commercial contract (including a "file opening fee" and "paralegal fee").

F-him...
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My apologies for ranting.

This may not seem like big thing.

And maybe it isn't.

And maybe it's symptomatic of a larger issue.

But I no longer care.

I'm going to bed!

After arguably the best meal of my life.

at: http://www.bluewatercafe.net/






Sweet Jesus, was that meal!
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If you want some help in choosing tradesmen, try AngiesList. You have to subscribe, but it is well worth it. You need a plumber to fix your toilet, you go to the list and search for "A" grade plumbers within X miles of you, then read the reviews by other AngiesList subscribers who collectively rated the plumber "A", chances are you'll even get a sense of what the guy will charge you. I've found all my tradesmen through this resource and haven't had a bad one yet. Because it is a paying site, the idiots stay out.
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This is actually a variation of the 'while we're in there' routine....

No estimate going in means you're fair game. Call back / come back means you can afford it.

Sorry to hear about it. It's the way things are these days. We are all old enough to remember when we were not living in a third world country.
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Home depot (or any hardware store) sells the part you needed for under $5.
It takes about 2 minutes to install (less time than it took to pay that bill) and usually requires no tools whatsoever. Maybe a pair of channel locks if the old one won't unscrew by hand.

You had the time to do it yourself. He charged you an incredibly ridiculous amount and you paid, He's a man of low morals but in this case I'd say the responsibility for you getting ripped off falls directly on your shoulders.
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Home depot (or any hardware store) sells the part you needed for under $5.

It takes about 2 minutes to install (less time than it took to pay that bill) and usually requires no tools whatsoever. Maybe a pair of channel locks if the old one won't unscrew by hand.



You had the time to do it yourself. He charged you an incredibly ridiculous amount and you paid, He's a man of low morals but in this case I'd say the responsibility for you getting ripped off falls directly on your shoulders.
Yup. There's few easier jobs.
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If I ever have to do plug wires on a 993 again, the engine is coming out. No ifs, ands or buts. Plugs are no problem. Wires are just beyond belief.
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what do you mean by flushing? never heard of it.

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