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With such detailed workmanship on the ground-up restoration, going to be a great car! I was surprised at all the rust you had to cut out from a "galvanized" body,

Do ya' remember how to put it back together?

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Ha ha... well, the PO took it apart so do the math on that one. Thankfully he labeled things well?
As for the rust, the car started life in Europe until the late eighties when it was brought into the US. I understand euro cars often have corrosion issues. The big attraction for me was price. The fact that it was a no-sunroof coupe and lacked all the power goodies and usual creature comforts didn't hurt either.

Mikey83835, are you a PCA member? My wife and I wandered into the Porsche dealer in Liberty Lake awhile back just for fun and there was a PCA event going on. Were you there? Everyone seemed fairly nice and laid back.

Thanks to those that replied. I plan to continue this post as things progress even though the body and pain/paint are finished. So far the front half of the car has been blocked w/1500. More to come...
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Mikey83835, are you a PCA member? My wife and I wandered into the Porsche dealer in Liberty Lake awhile back just for fun and there was a PCA event going on. Were you there? Everyone seemed fairly nice and laid back.
Yeah, I'm a recent member but have never been to the Sat AM coffee meetings at the dealership, kinda' early for me, I'm usually up pretty late,

Website here, check out the "gallery", especially the bbq's at Chee Chee's lakefront place every year in late July, great social event;

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Yes, nice, looks like a wide range of cars. I'm holding off on my application til' I can drive this one. I'm afraid someone would offer me a ride in one and that will make me want it done quicker. My marriage won't allow it!... Maybe if I get HER a ride in one???

I got a couple emails with props on the way the duck tail turned out. Thanks much. I just wanted to note, the idea came from the 2010 Sport Classic 911 as did the color.
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Yes, nice, looks like a wide range of cars. I'm holding off on my application til' I can drive this one. I'm afraid someone would offer me a ride in one and that will make me want it done quicker. My marriage won't allow it!... Maybe if I get HER a ride in one???
If the weather stays nice be glad to give either or both of you a ride if it will provide a morale boost for your project, recently put on a factory muffler modified into a Liestritz-style sport muffler, glorious sounds! Like the RSRs of the 70's used, sounds like a cross between a wood chipper and someone shredding cardboard.

That sound might be more of a "guy thing" tho', haha

Mine is the maroon-ish red Targa under the shade tree;

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Derek, what is the filter media you used on the fans and where did you buy it? How well did it work for you? I have built a paint booth in my shop and need to cut in the inlets for fresh air supply and install some filters. Thanks
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Mikey, I would love to take you up on your offer but I have one of those (on call) type jobs. For example; I'm pretty sure I'll have tomorrow off but after that, who knows. So if tomorrow works, lemme know.

Mebesfield, I used some cut to fit furnace filter media from Lowe's. Keep in mind I did this in my garage so it was intended to keep the big bugs out and the paint from going all over the neighbors cars. It worked as intended but the exhaust filters needed to be cleaned after each use. All of the paint collected was dry for the most part and cleaned up easily. The cost was around $7 per sheet. Each sheet was about 28"x34". I ended up with a fair amount of trash in my paint despite my efforts but in your case, it should work well.
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Mikey, I would love to take you up on your offer but I have one of those (on call) type jobs. For example; I'm pretty sure I'll have tomorrow off but after that, who knows. So if tomorrow works, lemme know.
I am coming into town (Hayden) tomorrow to the grocery, the Super 1 in Hayden, e-mail or PM me your address, if you are not too far I can perhaps stop by, I would like to see your car anyway. (Have a slight wheel balance problem and a shimmy right at 65-70mph so don't like to go too far on the freeway) Or perhaps meet by the state line, maybe at Curley's about 2PM if you are a long way?
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Love one man shows. Great job love the thread. Glad to hear some of my postings have helped. Oh! love the strips...so suttle but make such a huge statement.
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Thanks for the props Freddie.

After blocking the body and eliminating the ridge created by the stripes, I decided to do the same on the hood and duck tail. The end result will be a nice flat surface. I also have mixed up a couple drops of clear to fill in the small dimples. I'm VERY tired of wet sanding this thing but I think it will pay off in the end. I decided to go one step further and block it with 2000 grit. The clear is fairly hard now so the 2K grit should make compounding a bit easier.

Going for a beer now, cheers!
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A thread without pictures in not a thread.
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You're absolutely right, here you go...
Enjoy!

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Incredible project there.
You deserve that beer....and many more!

Can't wait to see what this baby looks like when you start putting it all back together.
Take your time (as you've been) doing.
The end result will be nothing short of fantastic.
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Update!

So far I've got the doors, tail and hood on the car. I also made a dolly (no more Rotisserie!) for the body so it can be moved around easily.

I'm having some paint issues in case you missed it. Here is the thread... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/paint-bodywork-discussion-forum/573996-clear-coat-woes.html
Unfortunately, it looks like I'll be repainting the hood, tail and a door.
I wish I could tell you what went wrong but I'm stumped. I've got the bumpers to paint still so not the end of the world I suppose.

On the bright side, I've got some wiring installed and am currently working on the tunnel cables, harness, lines, etc.

I would like to continue updating my progress. Should I start a new thread in the tech forum or leave it all here?

Here are some pics of the final product. Enjoy!





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Great stuff.

Sorry to read about your paint problems.

I vote you leave it here until complete and have an 'unveiling' thread on the main board with reference to the work here. At least that's what I'll be doing with mine
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Looks great. Sorry to hear about the paint problems. That is the only reason I am hesitating shooting my own paint. I would hate to go thru all the work and have to do it again. Can you give me some details on your cart? I think I will need one soon depending upon how I decide to finish out the car.
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Looks great. Sorry to hear about the paint problems. That is the only reason I am hesitating shooting my own paint. I would hate to go thru all the work and have to do it again. Can you give me some details on your cart? I think I will need one soon depending upon how I decide to finish out the car.
Yeah, a real bummer. I've sanded the hood down w/1000 this morning and am taking it to a place that has IR/UV heat lamps and see if it helps any. As soon as I started sanding, I could smell the solvents!

I say go for it. Spray it yourself. I havn't done an enormous amount of paint work but what I have done always turned out great. Live and learn. Even though I'll likely respray these panels, it should be quick since the prep is already done. Having to redo those stripes is the only real downer for me.

As for the cart, I just used parts from the rotisserie to make it... cut and weld. I got the wheels from harbor freight for about $25. I did go through some cutoff wheels.
On top of the uprights, I welded some studs (old bolts) sticking up so they would fit into the bolt holes for the skid pan in the front and the body alignment holes in the floor pan in the rear. I have secured the ones that go through the pan and the front just sets on the pins/studs that stick up.
Let me know if you need some photos or something.
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Some pics of the underside where you have it pined bolted would help. Not sure I follow exactly what you did. I see you made your own paint booth and your car turned out incredible. I have a paint booth I have been building in my shop so maybe I will go for it. What did your paint materials cost? The finish you achieved is awesome. You should be very proud.
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Total cost of materials was around 2K. $300 of that was for a new paint gun (glad I did) and $250-$300 for sand paper, sanding blocks, tape, paper, buffing, polishing compounds and disks etc. etc. So just paint, primers and clear... about $1500.

I used, and this is approximate:
3 gal. epoxy primer
2 gal. 2K primer
2 gal. color
3.5 gal. clear

That all got me:

2 full coats of epoxy primer on all parts inside and out plus a sealer coat where filler was used
4 wet coats of 2K primer on outer surfaces and 2 wet coats on inner areas. Sprayed 2 coats at a time with sanding in between.
2 wet coats of color on all parts (I'm including the bumpers which I've yet to paint)
4 coats of clear (3 should be fine, I just did 4 on the car body to eliminate some sanding to make the stripes seem buried/flat).

Yes, I am very happy with the results. It really looks too cool. I can tell yours is a true labor of love. I think you'll do fine if you've got the time.

Here are some shots of the cart... it keeps the car about 16 inches off the ground.


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