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rennch 12-11-2006 11:50 AM

I went Fikse FM 10 for mine. They definitely give it a different look, but it's purposeful and retro at the same time. (Mine are all black)

eimkeith 12-11-2006 01:09 PM

D@mn Matteo, I'm swaying hard with the "go CL" guys!!

Wider than tall has some inherent badassedness...

goodygoodygoody.

adomakin 12-11-2006 01:43 PM

Mike, theres plenty of MG's over here that have Centre lock hubs (or 'knock-off' hubs as they call them) so you shouldn't have any legal issues using the CL's.

911teo 12-11-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eimkeith
D@mn Matteo, I'm swaying hard with the "go CL" guys!!

Wider than tall has some inherent badassedness...

goodygoodygoody.

Keith

we NEED to find the right wheels. The Kraftwerkz guys are MIA. $15k for some real RSR seems a little extravagant.

I looked at some Jongbloed and Fikse but seem too modern.

The old 5 spoke Hillbrand look right but nobody makes the right style anymore.

I am not putting BBS Motorsports on it.

911teo 12-11-2006 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adomakin
Mike, theres plenty of MG's over here that have Centre lock hubs (or 'knock-off' hubs as they call them) so you shouldn't have any legal issues using the CL's.
Cool! thank you!

randywebb 12-11-2006 04:58 PM

"I am not putting BBS Motorsports on it."

Bless you, child! You just won a free beer - anytime you want to stop by.

Jeff Alton 12-11-2006 05:12 PM

I won't use BBS Motorsports wheels either, really I won't.... :)

Do I get beer now too?!?!

Cheers

911teo 12-11-2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by randywebb
"I am not putting BBS Motorsports on it."

Bless you, child! You just won a free beer - anytime you want to stop by.

I sense a little sarcasm in your reply... :(

75'930cab 12-11-2006 06:54 PM

I vote for CL's also! That would make it even cooler then cool times 10!!

shamrockcustoms 12-11-2006 07:06 PM

I'm in the same boat here.. I'm looking for something a bit different for my IROC clone.. those magnesium center locks look great and I have been on a hunt lately for something very close to that look, but no luck here...


Jay

Jims5543 12-11-2006 07:15 PM

Your running a Motec and keeping the twin distributor setup?

Why not 12 coil packs with ignitors and get rid of those things. I hate them and have considered going Motec one day just to loose them.

Quote:

Originally posted by 911teo
this is a pic of the engine when nearly finished....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1164758126.jpg


Jims5543 12-11-2006 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SCHNELE
Matteo I see you are utilizing a distributor, that is why I asked what you were using for ignition. I am also using the Motec M600 but I went with the M&W CDI for ignition and M&W double ended coils. Looking good, it will be interesting to see the numbers you get from your NA lightweight beastie.
Oops, I should have read on. Sorry!!

adomakin 12-11-2006 10:14 PM

mike, $15000 for the real deal does sound like lots but it would be a pretty nice investment-i doubt you'd loose a penny if you resold later (you'd probably make on them)

SCHNELE 12-12-2006 06:50 AM

No market or a limited does not bode well for investment, one has to have more than a desire for the item i.e. the means also to procure it.
As far as the twin dizzy I would have chosen the CDI as well. I must say too that I am reticent to make critical comments about someone's carefully planned and obvioulsy expensive engine build, but it is well settled that a CDI will yield better performance over the dizzy.

juicersr 12-12-2006 07:57 AM

Matteo, here are the guys in England i found who make a nice 6 spoke centerlock (GT40) which is not so far from the 5 spokle 917 if painted/ anodized right. Great thing is that you can order custom offsets and finish to your specs, in 15,16 and 17 inches. (Andy or others in the UK, can you tell us about these guys... haven't had a chance to contact due to being frigging busy with work,etc)

http://www.imagewheels.co.uk/pages/wheels_cast.html

Will pm you about the hubs as have been tied up in miami this week on bizness.

911teo 12-12-2006 08:09 AM

Those are nice...

I also looked at these... Imagine them all black

Profil 5

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1165943092.jpg

Mag

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1165943130.jpg



Then I look at these.... and I am not so sure anymore

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1165943342.jpg

Facey 12-12-2006 08:51 AM

I agree

your car is gonna wanna stand out on all levels, and it isn't exactly a replica.....its just retro...

go with some wheels other then the fuch's....(MO)

rennch 12-12-2006 08:55 AM

Hey matteo,

Here's mine with the black FM-10's: (In the garage waiting for some welding/bodywork)

Personally, because they are spoked and black, I still think they have a retro racecar feel.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/220516-check-out-new-project-69er-post2978289.html#post2978289

mjshira 12-12-2006 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 911teo
Those are nice...

I also looked at these... Imagine them all black

Profil 5

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1165943092.jpg

Mag

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1165943130.jpg



Then I look at these.... and I am not so sure anymore

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1165943342.jpg


so this bottom pic is RSR finish right???

911teo 12-12-2006 09:32 AM

Yes... this is what I currently have. Lindsey 9.5x17 and 11x17 in RSR finish.

CBRacerX 12-12-2006 10:18 AM

FWIW - I think fuchs are awesome on this car...

Craig 930 RS 12-12-2006 10:20 AM

Fuchs all the way. The Fikses look clunky -

mjshira 12-12-2006 10:56 AM

thanks. I vote fuchs.

pjv911 12-12-2006 06:53 PM

Fuch it !

ted 12-13-2006 08:52 AM

What bumpers are going this car?
Fuchs are not for every 911.

I'd explore newer rims in an 18inch diameter for a C2/964.

If it is an early 911 backdate I'd say Fuchs.
Imo Fuchs on a 993 just don't look right.

efhughes3 12-13-2006 08:59 AM

18" wheels on air-cooled 911's don't look right, IMO.

911teo 12-13-2006 09:17 AM

This will be an IROC look car.
I am exploring the possibility of having a mould of the RSR wheels made so that we can then have the RSR/917 replica wheels made in any diameter, size and offset.

These will be cast wheels. I will have a second set of Kodiak, BBS or Fikse for the track, where look is secondary to performance.

Let me know if anybody is interested in a group buy of the RSR wheels.

DW SD 12-13-2006 10:45 AM

Teo,
I'm pretty sure you can get wheels cut on a 3-D CAM tool. I don't think you would need to cast your own. That might be more cost effective?

The biker guys do this type of custom wheels all the time.
Looking good!

Doug

mpeastend 12-13-2006 11:34 AM

I'm interested Matteo but Doug is right, a CAD/CAM cut center that can be bolted to rim outers the same way the Kraftwerkz wheels are made is better, stronger, lighter and probably cheaper. I think the Kraftwerkz centers are cast, or at least they look that way, but a piece milled out would allow you to replace dinged lips, change offsets & would probably be strong enough to use on the track.

BTW, why not use 15" centerlocks to mount the big Goodyear or Avon slicks. That look is awesome! It loses something aesthetically when you go to lower profile tires. If you need the wider variety of tires in 17", then I guess you gotta go that route...and of course with 15"'s, you will need 930 or 917 brakes to fit in there! My vote is for 15"'s but 17" practicality will probably win out.

911teo 12-13-2006 11:43 AM

Sorry I did not explain myself correctly.
They cast the center, cut it and then bolt it to outer rims. EXACTLY how Kraftwerkz do it.
They can do 15", 16", 17" diameters and we customize witdh and offset.
PM me. I am putting together a list of the people interested to maybe get a group buy.

Tspringer 12-13-2006 12:21 PM

Matteo,

Get in touch with these guys:

http://www.race-car-replicas.com/

Fran is the owner and a great guy. They are building an extremely high quality 917 replica and I would bet he can help you with wheels. My understanding is they are having the correct type and size wheels made.

Good luck!

911teo 12-13-2006 12:28 PM

Terry
I just emailed Fran. We'll see. Thanks!

adomakin 12-13-2006 10:05 PM

Terry, I see you are contemplating either a boss or a 917........
Do us all a favour and go for the 917! It could make for a very popular thread on the board!

75'930cab 12-13-2006 10:34 PM

Centerlocks, CENTERlocks, CENTERLOCKS!!!!

ted 12-14-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by efhughes3
18" wheels on air-cooled 911's don't look right, IMO.
Appearance aside there are benefits to the 18s..

Something Bill V. posted elsewhere
Lower aspect ratio tires run at lower slip angles, they respond quicker more linearly and run cooler.

Craig 930 RS 12-14-2006 01:04 PM

And get hammered on the street. And look like clown shoes.
And forget about 18" for track tires -

eimkeith 12-19-2006 12:20 PM

behold.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1166563203.jpg

more to follow.

DW SD 12-19-2006 12:25 PM

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cory M 12-19-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

And get hammered on the street. And look like clown shoes.
And forget about 18" for track tires
Are you serious? Those guys with GT3 Cup cars must have a really rough time finding track tires, and all of those 993, 996, 997's etc must have to constantly replace their bent wheels...

ted 12-20-2006 09:16 AM

Maybe it needs 2 sets of wheels?
Set of retro 15 or 16 Fuchs with soft riding 40 or 45 series tires for the street.
2nd a set of 17s or 18s with 35 or 30 series DOT race rubber.
I have a set of Toyo RA-1s on 18s for my street/DE tire.
Time to photo shop some various rim styles/diameters on your awesome ride.
True Cory.


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