Switch to Kendall oil appears to have solved my long-term chain rattle issue!

[Peter Zimmermann]

Originally Posted by tobluforu

I used the org Kendall oil but this was a long time ago, wasn't it some funky color like green?

A very dark green with an almost blue tinge to it. Best Dino oil ever made. It looked already used when you put it into an engine!

[Jerome74911S]

Fascinating as all of this is (really), it belongs here:

Ultimate Motor Oil Thread or Why we hate CJ4/SM oils

Anyway, if BP is the ultimate oil for old Porsches, or not, there are still a number of other oils that are perfectly suitable - see the above thread.

[brads911sc]

Who died and made you the Pelican police? actually since he is solving a particular issue... it probably belongs where it is.. but nonetheless.. it doesnt really matter. maybe you need to get a life?

Originally Posted by Jerome74911S

Fascinating as all of this is (really), it belongs here:

Ultimate Motor Oil Thread or Why we hate CJ4/SM oils

[Jerome74911S]

Originally Posted by brads911sc

Who died and made you the Pelican police? actually since he is solving a particular issue... it probably belongs where it is.. but nonetheless.. it doesnt really matter. maybe you need to get a life?

Ha Ha Ha. Who's talking about the OP's question at this point? Nobody. You included.

[dshepp806]

I'm thinking about changing to the MOTUL that Steve speaks of, this upcoming summer (never used it before). I've been running BP for about 4 years now....great stuff........

It's so weird , to me, that chain tensioner issues (sounds) would be addressed through oil selections.....

I'd take a look at the tensioners (assuming that is the correct "audio" reference) and see what's (really) going on,....

Here's to Zinc & Phosphorous!!!!!!!

BEST!

Doyle

[Canada Kev]

I looked at the prices of that Motul oil locally. Holy crap! It's not that plentiful, and it's over double the prices I've been spending on BP. I like the benefits of synthetic, but, wow...

[mthomas58]

Originally Posted by Jerome74911S

Fascinating as all of this is (really), it belongs here:

Ultimate Motor Oil Thread or Why we hate CJ4/SM oils

Anyway, if BP is the ultimate oil for old Porsches, or not, there are still a number of other oils that are perfectly suitable - see the above thread.

I'm well aware of this 51 page thread and purposely did not post there. The purpose of my post was solely to make others aware of the tensioner/chain rattle issue apparently resolved by the switch from Valvoline to Kendall. Should they have similar chain tensioner issues they might want to give it a try.

[Jerome74911S]

Originally Posted by mthomas58

I'm well aware of this 51 page thread and purposely did not post there. The purpose of my post was solely to make others aware of the tensioner/chain rattle issue apparently resolved by the switch from Valvoline to Kendall. Should they have similar chain tensioner issues they might want to give it a try.

I don't know why you thought my post was directed toward you. What you say in the quote above was clear in your original post.

Anyway, I use Kendall, too.

[darcher]

OK, guys... help ME here. I live in Iowa and this time of year I can't even get my '85 3.2 to warm up. I've been using Pennzoil 5W 30 since it's cold here. I'm not sure 20W 50 would be a good idea. I've seriously considered masking off part of the fan opening! Does VR1 come in a lighter weight for cold weather cars?

[kidrock]

Originally Posted by darcher

Does VR1 come in a lighter weight for cold weather cars?

Yes.

[kach22i]

UPDATE

Updating/bumping a two year old thread because it's the closest one to my recent experience.

Compared to last year's oil (Valvoline VR-1) which just went though months of winter storage, Kendall GT-1 makes my engine seem quieter.

A difference such as I heard could be attributed to changing 1-year old oil with 2,500 miles on it, to fresh oil. However as I've owned my car for 10-years and know it pretty well I think that is half the story at best.

What I'm hearing at full tilt is less of a raging roar often reminiscent of a super bike, and more of a deeper throatier car like (larger engine) sound.

At idle the engine also seems a bit more quite, with less tapping and ticking noises, again the higher frequencies seem attenuated or mulled.

In general, my engine sounds a little less aggressive or angry.

I should note that it's been a cool spring here and I could barely get the engine temperatures above 170 degrees over the weekend.

It will be interesting to see this summer if when it gets really hot out, engines temperature peaking at 185 after some brisk driving and the targa top off just how angry or noisy the engine sounds.

Right now my preliminary impression is favorable.

Another factor I should mention is that I'm just getting better at draining more old oil out during an oil change, I ended up putting the entire case (12 quarts) in the engine.

I ended up trying Kendall GT1 after using Valvoline VR-1 for the past five years because the price at the chain store was over $6.00 a quart for VR1, and the check-out line was very long and not moving.

I went away frustrated to a small auto store/distributor where I had once bought a small torque wrench for valve cover nuts and picked up the Kendall GT-1 saving about $2.00 a quart or over $20 bucks.

[DRACO A5OG]

My main concern is wear. how did the plug look? any shavings?

[cgarr]

I'll settle this! Get ya some of that!

[joe payne]

Liquid Titanium!

[kidrock]

I can't find Kendall around here for $#!t.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by kidrock

I can't find Kendall around here for $#!t.

Part of me wants to suggest that there is an Ashland Oil (Valvoline) conspiracy involved.

[Monza_dh]

is this what you are talking about:

Kendall® GT-1® High Performance Racing Formula with Added Zinc 20W-50 (1057267)

Kendall® GT-1® High Performance Nitro 70


High-quality conventional oil featuring exclusive Liquid Titanium® protection additive, plus the the zinc additive, ZDDP, for additional wear protection and enhanced oxidation resistance. Recommended for turbocharged and high-performance engines with flat-tappet camshafts.

Free shipping and handling!!!
Select below for 1/2 Case (6 Qts) or Case (12 Qts)

[cgarr]

All we want here!

[kach22i]

I took a friend out in the P-car Sunday, he wouldn't shut up about how different the car sounded, said it was a huge improvement.

The 2.7L seemed a little less zippy or peppy in the way it flickered the tach, but near redline it seems a lot less stressed sounding.

There seemed to be a slight resistance at acceleration, like the oil was thicker than normal or has an increased viscosity. Just about the complete opposite of how pure synthetic feels, and with oils like standard Valvoline and Castrol being in the middle of this perception.

I think the car is very happy with this oil, but again cool weather prevents me from commenting on hot weather and hot temperature performance.

It is almost as if someone put a bunch of Lucas oil treatment or STP in the oil, not that I've ever done that to the P-car but just imagining it so.

It is just smoother feeling and sounding, less erratic tach wise and less hectic or frantic sounding.