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wayner 12-06-2015 03:19 PM

Saving a 73 from the crusher...AGAIN
 
Since my last thread blew up along with my motor, I thought I would start a new one.

There won't be much to report until after the new year though.

Here is the original build thread
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/626050-saving-73-crusher.html
and here is the tantrum thread
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/886162-sending-73-crusher.html

TO BE CONTINUED...

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wayner 12-06-2015 03:22 PM

What I learned form the last thread is to add the index at the beginning. After a while you can no longer edit old posts.

Here is the index that this thread will be a continuation of.
Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 8709536)
Updating my thread index to include "over the top oil line."


PAGE 1 - The find - Comparing hidden surprises to a car already apart (see parcel tray comparison at bottom of page).

PAGE 2 - Engine build sheet

PAGE 3 & 4 - Transmission build sheet

PAGE 7 - Door post repair

PAGE 9 (TOP)- The engine video

Page 9 (BOTTOM) - Rolling the fenders

PAGE 11 - RSR oil cooler duct

PAGE 14 - The 17 inch wheels

PAGE 16 - Before, during and after

PAGE 17 - Headliner install pictures Also, see post 370 on this pagefor a summary of installation steps and parts list

PAGE 18 - Some RSR history starting on post 350

PAGE 21 - Oil cooler lines
(Note, over the top oil line to get around headers - see post 457 on page 23

Page 23 - Windshield trim adjustment. (I also elaborated in this thread - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/746096-window-seals-trim.html also, the windshield trim thread that I couldn't find just resurface so I'll add it here).

Page 23 - repairing rear Sway bar mounts with WEVO mount repairing rear Sway bar mounts with WEVO mount but I would do it this way if I had to do it again http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/798159-need-sway-bar-ideas.html#post7927759

PAGE 24 - Torsion tube stiffening This thread also shows pictures of real RSR bracing (along with 930 bracing)

PAGE 25 - The adventure home (planes trains and automobile...)

PAGE 26 - The Jack Olsen pose

PAGE 27 - Project Lessons learned

PAGE 28 - Interior and carpet installation

PAGE 29 - The car's 40th re-birthday party

The Dolly that I made to use to work on my car at home
Instead of buying a scissor lift where I always have to work on the car in the same spot, I made this stand that I can keep it on for the winter and roll in in the corner when I am not working on it. Here is the thread

Inspirational threads that got me started (from Mild to wild)

Jack Olsen's Black Beauty II - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/272118-black-beauty-ii.html

Chris' flat sided 73 - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/570175-my-73-hot-rod-home.html

Rob's ST Cafe racer - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/554849-robs-911st-cafe-racer.html

Reaper's 935 K3 build - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/529666-zuffenhaus-935-k3-build-fuenf-gruppen.html


RUST repair threads

Fishcop's must read rust thread - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/paint-bodywork-discussion-forum/545166-restoration-my-69-911-a.html

Rockers and kidneys - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/407593-1967-911-restoration-becoming-t-r.html

This rescue thread is epic - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/642031-1968-912-junker-reincarnation.html

My collection of rust pictures from other threads and other sources. Know where to look and what to expect.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/686953-why-windshield-trim-should-regular-maintenance-item.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/810979-glue-not-glue.html

Threads on upgrading or cleaning up cars that are already together
Now that my car is at the stage that it is at, I frequently refer to Jeremy's thread with lots of fantastic guidance on brake and suspension upgrades etc.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/529220-well-here-she.html

Removing vapor canister from trunk

Although there are many suspension threads, I picked this one as a reference
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/726309-78-sc-elephant-racing-suspension-rebuild.html

A thread that I started when looking for opinions on selecting seats

Recaro Pole position thread

PART II - Update
Page 1 - Post #14 - Life-ing parts
Post #18 - the flywheel
Page 2 - Going insidel
Page2 - Saving it some more!
Page 3
- Cam specs
- 2.8 RSR oil catch can
- RSR twin coil mounting
Page 4 - 2.8 RSR historical perspective
Page 5 - Waiting for parts, the 914 diversion
Page 6
- Still waiting for parts, the Franklin Expedition
- Pistons finally arrive!
Page 8 - Twin plug ignition install - part I, mounting the CDI boxes
Page10 - Twin plug heads arrive!

puddy 12-06-2015 06:38 PM

So I guess your not ready to just sell her off yet? ;) I'd love to see your car in person sometime. Maybe in the spring we can meet up if you're in the GTA.

wayner 12-07-2015 04:03 AM

$60k for the roller might motivate me. Otherwise I have too much unfinished business to walk away from it :cool:

Bergo 12-07-2015 06:48 AM

I'll trade ya straight across, mine runs ad drives ;)

911T70 12-07-2015 09:44 AM

Subscribed!

Been wondering what you decided to do.

wayner 01-19-2016 06:09 AM

and so it begins...
 
Engine apart

wachuko 01-19-2016 06:44 AM

I most likely missed the post... but what happened? Engine blew up? Why?/How?

Any chance you can recap with a bit more detail? Or that is captured somewhere in the previous threads??

wayner 01-19-2016 06:58 AM

Good opportunity to put all the bad news in one place ;)

Most of it is included in the original build thread (consider this current thread you are reading as part II of the build)

But fast forward through that thread and you will find things like this:
(which earned its own thread)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/866360-danger-install-volt-meter-now.html

and this post 628
Almost crushed the car. Phew. Caught it before the wheel fell off

and this
Uh oh! What happened now?

But ultimately, this last page is the one that lead to the heavy lifting to be described in the thread that you are now reading:
What's that noise?

Which led to this speculation
doom and gloom

But ultimately, amongst all my pissing and moaning, Steve offered the best advice and that is what I am going to do
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve F (Post 8827450)

I actually enjoyed this comment the most though. That doom and gloom thread contains some good comments. Sometimes you just have to laugh at yourself...
Quote:

Originally Posted by impactbumper (Post 8827455)
yep, cars ruined my life also. That cell phone throw was epic though


wachuko 01-19-2016 07:19 AM

Okay... so I did read them all. I thought I had missed a post... I did go through those listed above when you first started this thread.

I got some additional gauges based on the situation you had with the battery...

Back to the car and the engine issues, glad you decided to fix it instead of giving up on it.

SiberianDVM 01-19-2016 07:37 AM

Such a great looking car; glad you decided to save it. Good luck as the search for the noise continues.....

wayner 01-19-2016 07:38 AM

Stay tuned for more details and more excitment as I document the steps :)

florio 01-19-2016 11:01 AM

Welcome back with your '73! I won't forget your support when I started to take my project on, so cheers to you for sticking with it. Giving up is something you would regret forever, it just doesn't seem like you.

wayner 01-29-2016 11:43 AM

Starting to make some progress so time for some updates:

First of all, if you have followed some of the threads that I have listed above, you heard that ungodly sound my engine made. Very discouraging.

So discouraging in fact that I didn't even try to diagnose it. Instead I just assumed the worst, and scheduled a tear down.

Why such drastic measures you ask?

A friend of mine insists that this is still an old car and old car will always brake down.
I refuse to subscribe to that way of thinking. When I was road racing motorcycles many years ago, my race mechanic many years ago taught me about living components. Determining their life expectancy and scheduling preventative maintenance accordingly. Crank shafts were good for so many hours, wheel bearing for other hours.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454099885.jpg

My current engine guy Chris only half jokingly suggests that these engine will last 40 years "the way we drive them."

So, without a second thought, I'm preparing for the next 40 years before he gets too old. Also, I am becoming self efficient on the road, so everything in removing the engine from the car (minus the jack and jack stands) was accomplished using my on board tool set as a test to make sure that I had everything that I need before some mega road trip that I might never go on.;)

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wayner 01-29-2016 11:46 AM

Half an hour later...

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wayner 01-29-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by florio (Post 8963929)
Welcome back with your '73! I won't forget your support when I started to take my project on, so cheers to you for sticking with it. Giving up is something you would regret forever, it just doesn't seem like you.

Thanks for the encouragement. My efforts were nothing compared to yours!!!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/863768-thats-my-first-911-restoration-thread-72-911-s-back-grave-maybe.html

Wow!!

wayner 01-29-2016 12:35 PM

Off to the tear down room...

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wayner 01-29-2016 12:39 PM

Leaking exhaust culprit. Could THIS be the noise?

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Loosened fly wheel bolt. That hasn't been touched by a human for a long time. How did that happen?

Maybe this is the noise?
Probably, but I've already decided that we are going inside...

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RSBob 01-29-2016 01:03 PM

Great threads and great source of information what a PITA about your motor but the good news is a fresh motor.

Gotta say, for months now whenever I see "saved from the crusher" since I don't know your track, I immediately see a car at the auto wreckers in one of those huge compactors/crushers.

911 tweaks 01-29-2016 02:02 PM

WOW wayner... wicked bummah dude... pm me if you would like to talk on tele about where u r at on the tear down...
in all, this is part of the journey of owning a "classic or older" car... ALL of them have this happen sooner or latter...DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE CAR BRAND IS EITHER...NO MATTER WHAT YOU FIND AS THEY ARE OLDER... similar to people... probably no fault of the previous guy who built/rebuilt what ever he did... just old(er) parts that fail and maybe... just maybe, something gave up the ghost & failed for who knows what reason... lmk so we can catch up... bob


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