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The Queen's Outlaw

Well my beautiful 912 R Outlaw arrived after a 3 month wait. During that period there was some vandalism and neglect. The car was left with the windows down in the rain, the wiring was shorted out, bumper cracked a little BUT I was able to get her started and so the adventure begins. What better car for me to learn on than a stripped down 1966 912 that has been modded into a 912R tribute/outlaw? The engine is a 914 4 cyl so I have plenty of room to see what I am working on. I will try to post my project as I learn to wire and wrench on this one and as I do cosmetic mods on my 1988 3.2 daily driver.


The Queen customizes her 3.2



I am such a Lucky Girl!!

At purchase in March:






On arrival this week








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Dont sweat the small stuff, super cool car. Enjoy!
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Step one....I wet vacuumed the 2 inches of water out of the chassis. Removed the seats. Luckily the interior is RS style so not a lot of padding to mold and rot. Wiped down the surface rust without too much trouble. Our climate is super humid so it took a few days to dry out with fans etc.

The electric system which is bare bones appears to have shorted out. None of the gauges work, the light are on again off again. So the game plan is to start with the wiring.

Today I packed my tools in the trunk and took my boyfriend for an inaugural joy ride. Ran great until we stopped for a soda. When we started back home the car started acting like it was out of gas (it was full). Popped the hood and the fuel injector was leaking gas at a fast clip from the intake line. We got it patched enough to limp home. Tonight i will search the forums on fuel injectors and also try to figure out if the glass fuel filter is supposed to be half full or if that means there is a clog/malfunction.

Still, I smile every time I see this car. I have named her Mathilde ...Tilda for short.

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1978 924 White with Cork (Streetcar vs. Porsche - streetcar won)"Poindexter"
1984 924s Nile Green Metallic with bone (totaled it in the snow in Cleveland, Ohio)
1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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Congratulations and gorgeous car

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That's pretty cool. Hope you enjoy the journey.
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Cool car...
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Head over to 914 world.
Lots of info on T4 FI trouble shooting.
Enjoy the journey!
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Love the car! Thanks for posting pictures. I look forward to seeing more.

You asked about gauges so I'll just go over it here. They are held in by a U shaped bracket behind the dash. It takes a little gymnastics to get to some of the screws but it isn't that difficult. Before you remove stick your camera up in there and take a photo of the wiring. Tape up each set of wires and label so there's no guesswork later. Notice the little rubber sleeves on the back of the gauges, they fall off easily.

Once you've got them out, lay them face down. Start at the bottom (six o' clock). With a nice flat blade screwdriver (say 1/8" wide and at least six inches long) GENTLY pry the rear lip of the gauge face ring away from the housing. This part is pressed into the housing. Slowly work your way around without bending it too far out and mangling it. I had to go 'round mine at least three times. I had one gauge that refused to let me in. I ended up poking a hole with a teeny tiny screwdriver so I could get behind the ring.

Slide the outer ring off being mindful of the needles. They're soft aluminum and really easy to bend so watch out when lifting the inner rings. Don't attempt to remove any needles because in most cases the gauge will lose calibration. Unscrew the back of the gauge and slide the inner components out. Use a dry brush to de-funk everything. I oiled everything with camellia oil, it's oil that smells like flowers. Look for broken gears or anything that looks problematic. I didn't have any broken internals but I assume you can buy replacement parts from VDO.

I repainted my needles with Testors red from Hobby Lobby to match my interior. Use a long brush and load it well to get the paint nice and even across the needle. Repaint your gauge rings if you like. Mine were rusty. To remove rust easily soak in white vinegar completely submerged for a few days to a week, remove and immediately dry. Go over it with a soft steel brush and you'll get clean, shiny metal. Wipe it down with xylene and paint. A Preval system is the best way to paint stuff at home if you don't have a compressor.

My housing screws were rusty and rather than replate I just cleaned the rust off and covered them with paraffin wax. Kinda messy but it works.

Put the gauges back together. Turn the gauge face down on a table and press the face ring lip back into place with a piece of wood or other object that is softer. Go around a few times until it feels seated properly. Put 'em back in the car and gaze longingly whilst you go vroom vroom!

Hope this helps!
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Puma - thanks so much for the detailed tutorial! I am appreciative of all the pointers - and need them. Do you get to the bracket from the inside of the car or the frunk?
So, if i don't remove the needles, the gauges won't need re-calibration? That is great -and is what was stopping me from trying. Several of my gauges are foggy and need the glass cleaned on the inside. Yours came out fantastic.
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1978 924 White with Cork (Streetcar vs. Porsche - streetcar won)"Poindexter"
1984 924s Nile Green Metallic with bone (totaled it in the snow in Cleveland, Ohio)
1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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Head over to 914 world.
Lots of info on T4 FI trouble shooting.
Enjoy the journey!
Will do - thanks
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1966 912R Coupe Stone Grey outlaw -"'Tilda"
1978 924 White with Cork (Streetcar vs. Porsche - streetcar won)"Poindexter"
1984 924s Nile Green Metallic with bone (totaled it in the snow in Cleveland, Ohio)
1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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Thanks to all of you for all the kind words! I appreciate the encouragement as I was experiencing a twinge of buyer's doubt.
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1978 924 White with Cork (Streetcar vs. Porsche - streetcar won)"Poindexter"
1984 924s Nile Green Metallic with bone (totaled it in the snow in Cleveland, Ohio)
1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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Step one....I wet vacuumed the 2 inches of water out of the chassis. Removed the seats.
Damn, you ain't afraid of work.

Someday, I will tell you about Tilda from Toronto but for now I will remain silent after the Debbie-Deb stink-eye post.

The car is awesome. It is sex on wheels.
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Puma - thanks so much for the detailed tutorial! I am appreciative of all the pointers - and need them. Do you get to the bracket from the inside of the car or the frunk?
So, if i don't remove the needles, the gauges won't need re-calibration? That is great -and is what was stopping me from trying. Several of my gauges are foggy and need the glass cleaned on the inside. Yours came out fantastic.
Are you sure the fog isn't moisture? It's not that unusual for that to happen to our gauges, and that's without 2 inches of water in the cockpit.

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It's nice having a lady posting in the forums. Welcome and good luck with the car.
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Are you sure the fog isn't moisture? It's not that unusual for that to happen to our gauges, and that's without 2 inches of water in the cockpit.

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It is moisture---but wouldn't that do better if I clean the plastic and replace the seals?
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1978 924 White with Cork (Streetcar vs. Porsche - streetcar won)"Poindexter"
1984 924s Nile Green Metallic with bone (totaled it in the snow in Cleveland, Ohio)
1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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It is moisture---but wouldn't that do better if I clean the plastic and replace the seals?
Yo' Queenie, there aren't any real seals on the VDO gauges - they are open to atmosphere at all times from many spots on them. Cleaning the inside of the lenses won't hurt, but they will likely fog up again due to your extremely humid environment (they fog up and clear out on their own - depending on climate).
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Thanks Raw...didnt know they didn't have seals - that explains a lot
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1966 912R Coupe Stone Grey outlaw -"'Tilda"
1978 924 White with Cork (Streetcar vs. Porsche - streetcar won)"Poindexter"
1984 924s Nile Green Metallic with bone (totaled it in the snow in Cleveland, Ohio)
1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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No prob, Queenie!

Another thing; I'm not sure if you mentioned it in this thread, or one of your other ones, but you said something to the effect that you were having intermittent problems with your lights (possibly other electronics as well?) and that you suspected a short . . . well given the water exposure this car experienced, the problem(s) is more likely due to corrosion on the various ground points (they are all over the car - front trunk, engine bay, cabin, etc.) or on various component connectors. A short causes blown fuses and melted wiring, if no fuse is present on the circuit that shorts to ground.
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