Engine rebuilding class

[garment]

Evening Pelicans:

Taking the winter off from any big projects following last winter's suspension project.

Too cold in the garage to work nights, so probably for the best...

My mind is turning to a full engine rebuild on my '83SC with 165K on the clock. I know the headstuds have been replaced in the past, so all good there. My issues are heavy oil use (I add a quart about every 500-600 miles) plus an oil leak at cylinder 4. Car still pulls well, but I def. wonder how much better it could be...

When I did my suspension I had that "what have I done?" moment where all the parts were spread out on the floor, and I think I will have that in spades on a full engine rebuild. Not saying I won't wind up doing the rebuild, but...

YouTube videos are only so instructive. I've been paging through Wayne's engine rebuild book. You can tell I kind of have the rebuild bug.

Seeing things done and hands-on is always best in my opinion. I saw a couple of threads on engine rebuilding classes, but they seem defunct now. Does anyone have info on a class that I've not yet located?

Thanks, Pelicans!

[DRACO A5OG]

Oh man I feel for you. I wish I had a class to attend before my 3.4L build so to avoid removing head studs without heat, A BIG NO NO but lesson learned.

[Jack Stands]

Bruce Anderson held these when he was alive. I believe his wife still sells some of the course info though it’s certainly not the same as hands on experience. Perhaps someone would take up the challenge to start offering them once again.

[enzo1]

Fat chance that will happen where I live. Got pulled over by a Hi-Po they thought the 911 was a UFO...

[boyt911sc]

Michael,

This was the 3.0 liter SC I rebuilt 4 years ago for a Pelican Parts member (James Wirth) who wanted a twin plugged, distributorless, individual throttle body, EFI, 10.5:1 CR, etc. Watch how this car passed everyone in the track including new Porsches.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGSdRdyNVgc&feature=youtu.be

When I first saw this video, I was not impressed in the first few minutes until James started passing every car in sight. I just could not wipe the smile on my face while watching the rest of the video.

Tony

[shbop]

Originally Posted by Jack Stands

Bruce Anderson held these when he was alive. I believe his wife still sells some of the course info though it’s certainly not the same as hands on experience. Perhaps someone would take up the challenge to start offering them once again.

Jerry Woods ran the class I attended, at his shop. Bruce was there, but Jerry did all the heavy lifting.

[Brian Cameron]

Originally Posted by boyt911sc

Michael,

This was the 3.0 liter SC I rebuilt 4 years ago for a Pelican Parts member (James Wirth) who wanted a twin plugged, distributorless, individual throttle body, EFI, 10.5:1 CR, etc. Watch how this car passed everyone in the track including new Porsches.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGSdRdyNVgc&feature=youtu.be

When I first saw this video, I was not impressed in the first few minutes until James started passing every car in sight. I just could not wipe the smile on my face while watching the rest of the video.

Tony

Dude... you should teach the engine rebuild class.

Seriously.

[garment]

Ive emailed Stefani to get a copy of the course material, thanks for the advice.

Originally Posted by Jack Stands

Bruce Anderson held these when he was alive. I believe his wife still sells some of the course info though it’s certainly not the same as hands on experience. Perhaps someone would take up the challenge to start offering them once again.

[garment]

That’s awesome! Isn’t the boring part when he’s out in front all alone with no one else to pass? 😜

Check your PM for a reply as well.

Originally Posted by boyt911sc

Michael,

This was the 3.0 liter SC I rebuilt 4 years ago for a Pelican Parts member (James Wirth) who wanted a twin plugged, distributorless, individual throttle body, EFI, 10.5:1 CR, etc. Watch how this car passed everyone in the track including new Porsches.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGSdRdyNVgc&feature=youtu.be

When I first saw this video, I was not impressed in the first few minutes until James started passing every car in sight. I just could not wipe the smile on my face while watching the rest of the video.

Tony

[KTL]

There's some good youtube videos out there. You just have to weed through much of the crap and figure out what's good info and what's questionable. There's a Nick Fulljames guy on youtube that posted a bunch of videos years ago and you can gather a lot of info from what he shared. But you have to be open minded and not take everything he says in the videos as gospel, as he tends to ramble on about stuff and on many occasions his commentary is WAY overthinking things.

Don't just page through the rebuild book. Read it page by page and make notes, re-read anything you don't quite understand and feel free to ask questions in this tech forum or in the rebuild forum. You'll find a TON of information here on the forum. Search function is a big resource here. It's shocking how much good information is shared here on the forums

Wayne's book is a really good book. Easily the most comprehensive book there is on the 911 engine, as it has step-by-step technical information, as well as hands-on practical experience, from numerous sources. He compiled the book from sources like Bruce Anderson's Porsche 911 Performance Handbook (also a good read about not just engines), the Bentley manuals, the factory manuals, probably some good old Haynes manuals (not the new-ish ones which are rather crappy) and a lot of people who have worked on the engines for decades.

Man I don't know how you guys could watch Tony's youtube link for more than a minute. That camera pulsing feels like someone shining a strobe light in my eyes!!!!!

[boyt911sc]

Originally Posted by Brian Cameron

Dude... you should teach the engine rebuild class.

Seriously.

Brian,

I thought about this a couple of years ago. I am a retired engineer/scientist and enjoy training people. But my problem is finding a suitable place to conduct this training course. The two-car garage I have now is not sufficient to accommodate a small group of 5 or less participants.

The course or seminar will be divided into several segments:

Part I. Engine disassembly.
A). Engine parts identification.
B). Engine disassembly, removal, and storage.
C). Parts inspection and specification.
D). Tools (standard and special) needed to do the job.
Etc.

Part II. Engine parts prep and machine works.

Part III. Engine assembly.

Part IV. Engine start up and tuning.

The course will be focused for people who wants to learn and know the basic procedures for engine rebuilding using a stock 3.0 liter SC motor. Subsequently, it would need some planning, preparation, and coordination with prospective participants to get this project rolling.

If there will be enough interest, I could set up a two or three-day course in June or July 2018. I will provide one (1) motor for disassembly, one (1) prepped motor for assembly, and a third one (1) for start up (optional). Depending if I have one ready for start up during the course of the seminar. I will do my best to save a motor during this week.

This is also a good way to meet new friends. I would not have met people from different parts of the world without this FORUM. Like to give back and share with others. BTW, I have to schedule a trip for my wife to go to Sydney, Australia or Monterey, California so we have the small house for our selves. Thanks.

Tony

[Slanski62]

Count me in, Tony if you decide to offer the class. It sounds like a blast. Thanks.

Steve Yeatts
Chapel Hill, NC

[livetopedal]

Originally Posted by boyt911sc

If there will be enough interest, I could set up a two or three-day course in June or July 2018.

Tony, I am very interested. My 3.2 is not in need of rebuilding (yet) but I would love a chance to get some hands-on experience. As a local guy, I wish I could offer you garage space but my center city garage is pretty damn small!

[dyerkes]

Count me in as well Tony!

[tmaull]

I am very interested as well.

[ppetion]

I am in .

[garment]

WOW, really like where this is going! Depending on where participants are coming from/willing to travel to, I could probably host a mid-June to mid-July class, here in the DC area, as I have a 2.5 car garage, would be great for 5-7 people. Can't say I have engines laying about like Tony does though (other than the one that sparked me to start this thread!). I see Midwest, Long Island, Philly, DC, and NC interest at this time, any others?

[jferrante]

I'm in Princeton would definitely be in

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[exploserous]

I would totally travel back east for a 2-3 day class.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by enzo1

Fat chance that will happen where I live. Got pulled over by a Hi-Po they thought the 911 was a UFO...

There is a guy in Guthrie area that has built over 1000 911 engines. He does all the machine work right in his barn workshop. He built my engine. I figured his experience was worth the cost over me doing it myself. He mostly works behind the scenes and lets other shops take the credit for the rebuild.