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irl 01-05-2022 01:59 PM
April 28-29

SoCalSK8r 01-07-2022 10:17 AM
Hi Tony, I’ll take the last opening in the April 18th Class.

Thanks
Anthony


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boyt911sc 01-07-2022 11:14 AM
Updated list of participants as of January 13.....
 
There are about 24 paid registrants from the cancelled April 2020 that have not attended yet. Please PM me your screen name, full name, email, and dates you will attend. For new registrants, need also your information and dates.

April 18-19 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. MST0188
2. ZAZ
3. AlKidd
4. SEDouglas
5. HHeine*
6. Boaz H.*
7. Tyler T.*
8. SoCalSK8r

April 21-22 (Thur.-Fri.).
1. NDitz1
2. JHG*
3. David V.*
4. Ajit D.*
5. stl87*
6.
7.
8.

April 25-26 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. JMA 0506*
2. Brian R.*
3. Stagger Saint
4. Trippyloaf
5. BobSuga*
6. Bryanoak*
7. Ngrich99
8.

April 28-29 (Thur.-Fri.):
1. MTB001*
2. Tikihut*
3. DSul*
4. barnburner
5. SkunkWorks*
6. Shaun @ Tru6*
7. Hokie6*
8. irl*

May 2-3 (Mon.-Tue.):**
1. Uwon
2. Dreamer52
3. Ksluna*
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.

Note: * New Registrant.
**Added one more group (May 2-3)

There will be 8 participants per group in order to obtain sufficient hands on experience for engine disassembly and assembly. The venue is at 19401. Thanks.

Tony

Dreamer52 01-07-2022 12:40 PM
Hi Tony, I'll take an opening in the May 2-3 class.

Thanks

Ngrich99 01-12-2022 07:19 PM
Your PM box is full. I would like 4/25-26 class please.

boyt911sc 01-13-2022 06:59 AM
No Show..........
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ngrich99 (Post 11574101)
Your PM box is full. I would like 4/25-26 class please.


Ngrich99,

You signed up in September 23-24/2021 Workshop (see post #652) and failed to show up. Nor did you give any notice for your no show. PM me and will accommodate you.

Tony

boyt911sc 01-13-2022 07:30 AM
No Show.......
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ngrich99 (Post 11341802)
23-24 please and thanks
This was your post (#462) signing for a seat for the September 2021 sessions.

Tony

Ngrich99 01-13-2022 10:50 AM
RE: NO Show......
 
HI Tony- I will try to PM again if your box is not full and I appreciate you accomodating. I was originally signed up for the April 2020 class that was cancelled and I did reschedule for the Sept 2021 class.

To protect my Personal Reputation I did send an email to you on 9/21 explaining my situation:



nigel rich <ngrich99@yahoo.com>
To:
tony donato

Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 8:28 AM

Hello Tony-
Having waited for so long and to be so close to attending it is with regret that I inform you I will not attend the class Thursday and Friday. I was informed yesterday that there are several confirmed Covid cases at my boy’s school and they were in close contact with these students.
Out of respect and health of you and others I feel I should be cautious and not fly and attend.
I truly hope that there is another set of classes in the spring. I really appreciate the time and knowledge you are providing for those in the Porsche world.

-Neil

boyt911sc 01-13-2022 01:57 PM
Neil,

Your name is added to the April 25-26 group. See post #643.

Tony

AlKidd 01-28-2022 05:12 AM
Throwing this out to anyone in the April 18/19 group. Im travelling solo on this and will be driving in. I hate paying for hotel rooms as its just a bed to me. Id consider splitting the room with anyone other than a serial killer. Its not that I cant afford it, just hate wasting the $. PM and we can chat. With the car, well have a way to get back and forth and it looks like the Hyatt has a 2 bedroom suite.

nene 01-28-2022 08:16 AM
Tony,

Please sign me up for May 2-3. I will send you an email as well.

Thank you, Sergio

boyt911sc 01-28-2022 07:00 PM
Registered participants as of February 4........
 
There are more than 20 paid registrants from the cancelled April 2020 that have not attended yet. Please PM me your screen name, full name, email, and dates you will attend. For new registrants, need also your information and dates.

April 18-19 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. MST0188
2. ZAZ
3. AlKidd
4. SEDouglas
5. HHeine*
6. Boaz H.*
7. Tyler T.*
8. SoCalSK8r

April 21-22 (Thur.-Fri.).
1. NDitz1
2. JHG*
3. David V.*
4. Ajit D.*
5. stl87*
6.
7.
8.

April 25-26 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. JMA 0506*
2. Brian R.*
3. Stagger Saint
4. Trippyloaf
5. BobSuga*
6. Bryanoak*
7. Ngrich99
8.

April 28-29 (Thur.-Fri.):
1. MTB001*
2. Tikihut*
3. DSul*
4. barnburner
5. Shaun @ Tru6*
6. Hokie6*
7. irl*
8. Trident*

May 2-3 (Mon.-Tue.):**
1. Uwon
2. Dreamer52
3. Ksluna*
4. Nene
5. Draw
6.
7.
8.

Note: * New Registrant.
**Added one more group (May 2-3)

There will be 8 participants per group in order to obtain sufficient hands on experience for engine disassembly and assembly. The venue is at 19401. Thanks.

Tony

boyt911sc 02-01-2022 08:39 AM
Registration fee........
 
I received today a registration fee payment from OD_Cntl. Please let me know to whom shall I credit the payment. Thanks.

Tony


Edit: From Hokie6.

draw 02-01-2022 06:13 PM
Tony,

Please sign me up for May 2-3. I will send you an email as well.

Thanks,
Ward

boyt911sc 02-01-2022 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by draw (Post 11594491)
Tony,

Please sign me up for May 2-3. I will send you an email as well.

Thanks,
Ward

Ward,

Your name has been added to May 2-3 group. Thanks.

Tony

Trident 02-04-2022 08:55 AM
Hi Tony,

Please register me for the April 28-29th class.

Thx

boyt911sc 02-04-2022 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trident (Post 11597534)
Hi Tony,

Please register me for the April 28-29th class.

Thx




PM me your full name and email address. Thanks.

Tony

boyt911sc 02-05-2022 07:43 AM
There are more than 20 paid registrants from the cancelled April 2020 that have not attended yet. Please PM me your screen name, full name, email, and dates you will attend. For new registrants, need also your information and dates.

Note:
Bold names or screen names indicate registration fee has been paid. Call my attention if I missed some payment. I will be sending another reminder today.

April 18-19 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. MST0188
2. ZAZ
3. AlKidd
4. SEDouglas
5. HHeine*
6. Boaz H.*
7. Tyler T.*
8. SoCalSK8r

April 21-22 (Thur.-Fri.).
1. NDitz1
2. JHG*
3. David V*
4. Ajit D.*
5. stl87*
6. Gibson67*
7.
8.

April 25-26 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. JMA 0506*
2. Brian R*
3. Stagger Saint
4. Trippyloaf
5. BobSuga*
6. Bryanoak*
7. NGRich99
8.

April 28-29 (Thur.-Fri.):
1. MTB001*
2. (TikiHut*).........cancelled.
3. [B]DSul*/B]
4. bahnburner
5. Shaun @ Tru6*
6. Hokie6*
7. Irl*
8.

May 2-3 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. Uwon
2. Dreamer52
3. Ksluna*
4. Nene
5. Draw*
6. Trident*
7.
8.

Note: * New Registrant.

There will be 8 participants per group in order to obtain sufficient hands on experience for engine disassembly and assembly. The venue is at 19401. Thanks.

Tony

boyt911sc 02-12-2022 05:26 AM
Two-months to go.......
 
We got about 2 months before we start the April 2022 Workshop and looking forward to meet everyone. We have some participants that have not responded to my emails nor confirmed their attendance. As of this date, we have enough registered participants for each group. Stay safe and healthy. We’ll have another successful season.

Note:
Bold names or screen names indicate registration fee has been paid. Call my attention if I missed some payment. I will be sending another reminder today.

April 18-19 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. MST0188
2. ZAZ
3. AlKidd
4. SEDouglas
5. HHeine*
6. Boaz H.*
7. Tyler T.*
8. SoCalSK8r

April 21-22 (Thur.-Fri.).
1. NDitz1
2. JHG*
3. David V*
4. CGibson67*
5. Ajit D* (?????)
6. stl87* (????)
7.
8.

April 25-26 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. JMA 0506*
2. Brian R*
3. Stagger Saint
4. Trippyloaf
5. BobSuga *
6. Bryanoak*
7. NGRich99
8.

April 28-29 (Thur.-Fri.):
1. MTB001*
2. DSul*
3. bahnburner
4. Shaun @ Tru6*
5. Hokie6*
6. Irl*
7. Jay Gauthier*
8.

May 2-3 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. Uwon
2. Dreamer52
3. Ksluna*
4. Nene
5. Draw*
6. TommyZ*
7. Trident*(?????)
8.

Note: * New Registrant.

There will be 8 participants per group in order to obtain sufficient hands on experience for engine disassembly and assembly. The venue is at 19401. Thanks.

Tony

Matril01 02-14-2022 07:23 AM
Reimbursement for canceled COVID class
 
Hi Tony-

I'm just circling back here to check on how/ when I get reimbursed for my canceled class? I believe the original class was scheduled for ~April 2020. These obviously were canceled due to COVID. You originally advised that you wanted to wait until the new classes were scheduled.

I have health issues now and can not travel to a make up class.

Thank you, Lee

boyt911sc 02-14-2022 06:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matril01 (Post 11606541)
Hi Tony-

I'm just circling back here to check on how/ when I get reimbursed for my canceled class? I believe the original class was scheduled for ~April 2020. These obviously were canceled due to COVID. You originally advised that you wanted to wait until the new classes were scheduled.

I have health issues now and can not travel to a make up class.

Thank you, Lee


Lee,

The cancellation of the April 2020 Engine Rebuilding Workshop was not my fault. And we had it re-scheduled in September 2021. And the last one in April 2022. After expenses paid, there is less than $500 left from the registration fees collected per group. And I spent closed to 30 hours in total per 2-day sessions. I don’t even charge a penny for the use of the motors in the workshop.

I was not able to pay the helpers a penny including my wife who cleaned and mopped the toilet every day and Kevin McDonald for his time moving the motors, hoist, tools, engine stands, etc. to the venue and back home.

And thanks to the other members who could not attend and donated their fees to help cover the expenses. Please do the math, $550 per day room rental (2x), $400 miscellaneous expenses (supplies, special tools, tables, chairs, etc). Less than $500 left to pay for my time, and my helpers. The workers at McDonald across the street make more money per hour than me and you want a refund?

The only money I refunded were given to 2 members who were undergoing cancer treatments. Wished I could give more to help these people.

Tony

Damon88 02-14-2022 06:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 9872593)
To fellow 911 enthusiasts:

Some one has suggested to me to conduct an engine rebuilding class and to my surprise, there are numerous members showing interest. I have received several PM’s expressing their desires to get into this class. One member offered his large garage but he is 300 miles away from home. So getting the engines, equipment, tools, etc. would require some serious logistic undertaking.

I have a two-car garage/carport soon to be a 3-car parking space. If I park my ‘78 and ‘89 at my son’s residence which is only 7 miles away, there would be ample room to accommodate a small group (5 or less) for engine tear down or engine assembly class.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1515105986.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1515105986.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1515105986.jpg

Take a look what a novice engine rebuilder could do:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LGSdRdyNVgc&feature=youtu.be

Watching the first 4 mins. of the video was not interesting until James Wirth (owner of the engine that I rebuilt to his specification) started passing every car on sight. Every time I watch this video, I could not believe I built this motor. It has about 280 Hp on the dyno.

I had no experience in engine rebuilding until I decided to work on my ‘78 SC more than 25 years ago because I could not afford to pay the shop. My only reference manual was Haynes. No internet, digital camera, and Pelican Parts forum did not exist then.

How about doing the first group/class for introduction to engine rebuilding in April 2018? Maybe before or after the Hershey Swap Meet? I will be away traveling in May 2018. The next available months would be June and July. August 2018 is another travel month.

Let me know what you guys want do about this idea. No more than 5 participants per class so there would more hands on experience for everyone. Reading and watching videos are good but there is no substitute to actually doing the job. BTW, I am not an authorized or trained Porsche mechanic nor an expert engine rebuilder. Just another DIY’er like most guys in this forum. Thanks.

Tony
Tony, That video was amazing. The sounds of that motor was unbelievable. INSANE!.. This is the true sound of joy. Great job!!
Cheers
Damon

Matril01 02-15-2022 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 11606945)
Lee,

The cancellation of the April 2020 Engine Rebuilding Workshop was not my fault. And we had it re-scheduled in September 2021. And the last one in April 2022. After expenses paid, there is less than $500 left from the registration fees collected per group. And I spent closed to 30 hours in total per 2-day sessions. I don’t even charge a penny for the use of the motors in the workshop.

I was not able to pay the helpers a penny including my wife who cleaned and mopped the toilet every day and Kevin McDonald for his time moving the motors, hoist, tools, engine stands, etc. to the venue and back home.

And thanks to the other members who could not attend and donated their fees to help cover the expenses. Please do the math, $550 per day room rental (2x), $400 miscellaneous expenses (supplies, special tools, tables, chairs, etc). Less than $500 left to pay for my time, and my helpers. The workers at McDonald across the street make more money per hour than me and you want a refund?

The only money I refunded were given to 2 members who were undergoing cancer treatments. Wished I could give more to help these people.

Tony
Tony-

Certainly we all acknowledge that this was not your fault, or mine for that matter. As you advised multiple times, you would provide a refund to those who could not attend the make up classes...but we had to wait for you to refill the new makeup dates. In the spirit of the COVID craziness, I have waited for that (almost 2 years). I ask now that you fulfill your end of things and provide a refund since I can not attend for health reasons. I attach here our correspondence detailing the above.

Regards, Lee

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1644944116.jpg

ramonesfreak 02-15-2022 08:55 AM
Tony, your private mail box is full....so in response to you telling me to offer my seat to someone to apparently receive my refund??, my response has to be posted here:

Offer what seat? As I told you when the original class was cancelled and then rescheduled, I can not attend the rescheduled class. The seat is yours to offer, not mine.

And let me make this clear - I have no intention of giving you a hard time over $150 or whatever it was but, you told me from the beginning that you would refund my money and not to worry about that, except that I would have to wait until you had things organized.

So, I let it go and havent heard from you since May 2021. Now, per the above, it appears your position on the refund has changed, and you told me today to offer my seat to someone which I do not understand since I have no spot reserved.

I was scheduled to be in the April 2020 class (paid in full November 2019) that was cancelled due to Covid. I told you that since I lost my job because of Covid and eventually found a new job with different work hours, that I would not be able to attend any rescheduled class.

And now your advising me to offer my seat to someone else....so not sure where the disconnect is here

I would imagine that my seat was already given to someone else last year....?

AlKidd 02-16-2022 01:16 PM
For those in the April 18/19 class can we all agree to give Tony another $40 each to cover those seeking refunds since they werent able to get there during covid? Id rather do that than see these posts. Im out a couple grand in lost flights due to covid and the airlines told me to get stuffed.

On another note, Tony are the hotels listed in the post still valid? I vaguely recall reading that the venue may change?

Uwon 02-16-2022 06:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlKidd (Post 11608963)
For those in the April 18/19 class can we all agree to give Tony another $40 each to cover those seeking refunds since they werent able to get there during covid? Id rather do that than see these posts.
What a great suggestion. Well said.
Cheers,
Johan

boyt911sc 02-16-2022 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlKidd (Post 11608963)
For those in the April 18/19 class can we all agree to give Tony another $40 each to cover those seeking refunds since they werent able to get there during covid? Id rather do that than see these posts. Im out a couple grand in lost flights due to covid and the airlines told me to get stuffed.

On another note, Tony are the hotels listed in the post still valid? I vaguely recall reading that the venue may change?


Al,

There is a probability that the venue could be changed. The building we are using is for sale but no buyer at the moment. The owner of the building is giving me a special arrangement to pay a daily rental for the actual dates I used the room. So for the two-day sessions, I pay $550 per day (Total rental = $1,100).

Unlike the other commercial buildings in the area, I have to pay everyday I have my stuff and motors in the room. For one week, my rental would be about $3500. Unless I removed the engines and other stuff out of the property after the 2-day sessions, I have to pay the daily rent. Transporting the engines, hoist, tools, etc. is a logistic nightmare for me because I have no help but myself.

I have an alternate venue just a mile from the original venue. And for those people who wanted a refund will get their money back right away if they could find someone to take their seats. Otherwise, they have to wait.

Tony

Shaun @ Tru6 02-17-2022 04:35 AM
Hey Tony, did I miss hotel information?

Tommy Z 02-17-2022 05:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlKidd (Post 11608963)
For those in the April 18/19 class can we all agree to give Tony another $40 each to cover those seeking refunds since they werent able to get there during covid? Id rather do that than see these posts. Im out a couple grand in lost flights due to covid and the airlines told me to get stuffed.

On another note, Tony are the hotels listed in the post still valid? I vaguely recall reading that the venue may change?
I just re-registered for the May 2nd and 3rd classes after having to cancel last year and I would also be happy to do this as well. Anyone else want to start an additional $40 campaign? The tiny amount of profit Tony is seeing from these classes is a shame.

AlKidd 02-17-2022 06:01 AM
Post 536

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11609497)
Hey Tony, did I miss hotel information?

AlKidd 02-17-2022 06:04 AM
Since I cant support the truckers in Canada anymore I might as well put my money to some use.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Uwon (Post 11609264)
What a great suggestion. Well said.
Cheers,
Johan

boyt911sc 02-17-2022 10:24 AM
New Registration Fee..........
 
The new participants' registration fee was adjusted to $290 and those who paid $250 earlier are not obligated to pay the $40 adjustment fee. It would be optional or voluntary. I will conduct the workshop even if there are only 4 people or less attending the workshop.

This was never intended as a business venture. Being able to contribute to the community in some small way is priceless. Special thanks to those who donated their money to the program. Thanks to everyone.

Tony

AlKidd 02-17-2022 10:52 AM
Tony
Its obvious from your posts on here and the fact your hosting these classes that you have a passion for the brand, the engine and the tech. Ive been playing with Corvairs (air cooled GM product) for 25 years and there are guys like you involved in that marque too. If we dumb newbies dont take advantage of the knowledge & experience in the group it'll be our loss in the end. Fortunately for you your 8 hours away from me or else Id be in your face with coffees in hand till you chase me away. Im more than happy to support this class, and you, so that in the end I might only be a retarded newbie (I know retard is not politically correct any more but we are talking about engines so stuff it if your offended). Ill be bringing the difference with me as you shouldnt be behind after all of your efforts.

khamul02 02-17-2022 01:50 PM
I can't stress how awesome this class was and how much we should all appreciate Tony's hard work to give back to the 911 community.

boyt911sc 02-17-2022 08:16 PM
Updated list as February 20..........
 
We have about 2 months left before we start the April 2022 Engine Rebuilding Workshop and looking forward to meet everyone. We have some participants that have not responded to my emails nor confirmed their attendance. As of this date, we have enough registered participants for each group. Stay safe and healthy. We’ll have another successful season.

Note:
Bold names or screen names indicate registration fee has been paid. Call my attention if I missed some payment. I have removed some names from the previous list for their failure to reply after numerous emails. These are the current names on my list.

April 18-19 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. MST0188
2. ZAZ
3. AlKidd
4. SEDouglas
5. HHeine*
6. Boaz H.*
7. Tyler T.*
8. SoCalSK8r

April 21-22 (Thur.-Fri.).
1. NDitz1
2. JHG*
3. David V*
4. CGibson67*
5.
6.
7.
8.

April 25-26 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. JMA 0506*
2. Brian R*
3. Stagger Saint
4. Trippyloaf
5. BobSuga *
6. NGRich99
7.
8.

April 28-29 (Thur.-Fri.):
1. MTB001*
2. DSul*
3. bahnburner
4. Shaun @ Tru6*
5. Hokie6*
6. Irl*
7. Bryanoak*
8.

May 2-3 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. Uwon
2. Dreamer52
3. Ksluna*
4. Nene
5. Draw*
6. TommyZ*
7.
8.

Note: * New Registrant.

The venue is at:

2940 De Kalb Pike
Suite D
East Norriton, PA 19401

For hotel accommodations:
https://www.valleyforge.org/towns/norristown/hotels/

For contact information:
215-421-8148 (mobile)
610-272-7634 (home)
ATD911@hotmail.com (email)

Tony

boyt911sc 02-21-2022 05:10 AM
Hotel accommodations..........
 
Someone suggested to me about Air B&B accommodations around the area for the next Engine Rebuilding Workshop. I will be more than happy to check and inspect the quality of the place. All you need is a safe and clean room for 2 nights. PM me the information and I will visit the B&B ASAP and offer my recommendation.

Tony

boyt911sc 03-04-2022 06:26 PM
Updated list as of March 4...........
 
We have about 6 weeks before we start the 2022 Engine Rebuilding Workshop. I will need 2 volunteers from April 18-19 Group to move to April 21-22 Group to make it 6 people. I will conduct April 21-22 schedule even with just 4 participants. Thanks.

April 18-19 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. MST0188
2. ZAZ
3. AlKidd
4. SEDouglas
5. HHeine*
6. Boaz H.*
7. Tyler T.*
8. SoCalSK8r

April 21-22 (Thur.-Fri.).
1. NDitz1
2. JHG*
3. David V*
4. CGibson67*
5. JRWilson*
6.
7.
8.

April 25-26 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. JMA 0506*
2. Brian R*
3. Stagger Saint
4. Trippyloaf
5. BobSuga *
6. NGRich99
7.
8.

April 28-29 (Thur.-Fri.):
1. MTB001*
2. DSul*
3. bahnburner
4. Shaun @ Tru6*
5. Hokie6*
6. Irl*
7. Bryanoak*
8. SalazarS2K

May 2-3 (Mon.-Tue.):
1. Uwon
2. Dreamer52
3. Ksluna*
4. Nene
5. Draw*
6. TommyZ*
7.
8.

Note: * New Registrant.

The venue is at:

2940 De Kalb Pike
Suite D
East Norriton, PA 19401

For hotel accommodations:
https://www.valleyforge.org/towns/norristown/hotels/

For contact information:
215-421-8148 (mobile)
610-272-7634 (home)
ATD911@hotmail.com (email)

Tony

Gideon911 03-05-2022 10:21 AM
Any spots left April 18th and 19th?

AlKidd 03-05-2022 11:06 AM
Cant help Tony but would if I could. Heading from PA to SC on the 20th and events are booked already.

Zaz 03-05-2022 07:09 PM
Sorry Tony but I can’t switch either- already made plans around that date.


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