Ranges? The cooking kind . . .

[imcarthur]

My wife broke the inner glass on the oven this morning. She put a wet rag on a very recently self-cleaned oven glass door (still hot obviously) & a crack shot across the whole window. I don't want to repair it because it is a piece of crap.

It was a glass top electric with concealed oven elements. Did I mention that it is a piece of crap? The glass top is a pain to clean. The self clean vented & permanently stained the upright part above the vent. Replaced n/c once but stained again. And the oven is desparately slow to heat up & has been doing a pitiful job with my Yorkshire pudd lately. And about 4 years old . . .

So . . .

I want gas. The house is plumbed so no biggie to hook up. 30" only so no 'professional' megadollar ranges. Probably Maytag since most other brands appear to be merely new pieces of crap.

But what oven? Full size? Dual ovens? We would have to give up pan storage for a dual. Standard versus convection? I would need a broiler.

What works?

Ian

[Dueller]

Slide in or free standing? Do you have an existing hood vent?

[tchanson]

And what's your budget?









Tim

[Dueller]

I have a frigidare gas cook top that has performed flawlessly. I have frigidare electric wall ovens that are fine.The big decision is whether you want a gas cooktop and an electric oven or a gas oven. I did a lot of research before I selected frigidare...it consistently had much higher ratings from a variety of sources than much more expensive rangres (even $5K+ Vikings).

This gas/gas model was top ranked by Goodhousekeeping last year over 10-15 models more expensive. At about $1700 I think its the best for the buck.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=18655-2251-PLGFMZ98GC&lpage=none

[Dottore]

Since you're a Porsche guy, you should at least look at a Miele.

[imcarthur]

Free standing. Vented hood in place above. Mid-priced. Just for comparison, up here where the wolves howl in Canuck Central, a Maytag gas 2 Oven Self Clean convection/small oven combo is $2249 list. That would be my top end.

Ian

[Dueller]

Maytag ranked 8 of 11 in this recent survey. Frigidaire ranked #1:

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/product-testing/reviews-tests/appliances-electronics/best-gas-ranges

[syncroid]

We have a DCS model here. My wife got it off of Ebay brand new for $2600 bucks.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by syncroid

We have a DCS model here. My wife got it off of Ebay brand new for $2600 bucks.

That my friend is the deal of al century. Heck, my DCS bbq cost me my left nut.

[look 171]

Buy a 30" DCS or Jennair for about 2500-3000 US. and be done with it. You might nbeed a vent hood. The microwave and hood in one isn't gonna cut it. We install miles of custom end kitchens, those are the best bang for the buck and both are pro grade with thick gauge SS.

[Zeke]

Thermador makes nice stuff. I'd go convection.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

look on Craig's List. A lot of high dollar renovations seem to have been cancelled and people are trying to get rid of their appliances.

[imcarthur]

Originally Posted by milt

I'd go convection.

We roast a fair amount. Not a lot of baking other than Yorkies, but sometimes cookies & brownies & general oven cooking. I do 90% of the cooking so this is my appliance. Why convection vs normal? I have heard that it is more even & faster.

Ian

[georgeinhere]

When I first started remodeling houses, I'd used second hand restaurant ranges. You have to build a fire box around them but they are awesome to cook on and cheap! These days you can even buy them with automatic pilots...if you buy one with pilots that are lit at all times, turn them off and keep a candle-lighter on stand by...

Almost forgot...some insurance companies have issues with them and if you burn your house down, you may have issues...do it at your own risk!

[Halm]

Bosch Dual Fuel. Best range by far that we have owned.

[syncroid]

Originally Posted by look 171

That my friend is the deal of al century. Heck, my DCS bbq cost me my left nut.

I couldn't believe it either. I remember she called me at work to tell me about it. I said "Sure honey, go ahead and bid on it." The starting bid was 2599.00. She bid a dollar more. No one else bid on it the entire 5 day auction! I thought one of two things were going to happen. 1.The bidding would go nuts at the last minute. 2. The seller would pull it at the last minute. Neither one happened and she got it for $2600. WOOT! The very next week, they advertised another one of the same model and it immediately went over $5000 in bidding. The stove was from a dealer out of Alabama. I don't recall the name. She got the hood off of Ebay too. That was a steal as well at $276.00 + shipping.

[red-beard]

I had a 30" GE Profile Gas Range, which had the computer controlled "True Temp" in the oven.

Oh, and it was self cleaning! I've never seen a gas oven that was self cleaning, before. Worked great.



List is $2,249, but you should be able to find it for 200-300 less.

APPROXIMATE DIMENSIONS (HxDxW)
47 3/16 in x 26 1/4 in x 30 in
CAPACITY
Capacity (Cu. Ft.)	5.0 Upper / 1.0 Lower
Total Capacity (cubic feet)	6 cu ft
Unit Capacity	Super Large Oven
FEATURES
Configuration	Double Oven Range
Ignition System	Electronic
Oven Cleaning Type	Self-Clean
Temperature Management System	TrueTemp™ System
Cleaning Time	Variable
Cooktop Surface	Gas-On-Glass Ceramic
Cooktop Burner Type	Sealed
All-Purpose Burners	(1) 9100 BTU/150F degree simmer
Cooktop Burner Grate Features	Continuous Grates Dishwasher Safe
Cooktop Burner Grate Material	Heavy Cast
High Output Burner	(1) 11000 BTU/150F degree simmer
Power Boil Burner	(1) 15,000 BTU/180F degree simmer
Precise Simmer Burner	(1) 5000 BTU/140F degree simmer
Valves (Degree of Turn)	270
Control Type	Glass Touch Controls QuickSet VI Digital Temperature Display
Oven Control Features	Auto Recipe™ Conversion Convection Conversion Oven Meat Probe Delay Bake Option (Time Bake) Audible Preheat Signal Auto Oven Shut-Off Auto Self Clean Electronic Clock and Timer Automatic Oven Timer (Time Bake) Oven Light Pad Self-Clean Cool Down Time Display Automatic Meat Thermometer Certified Sabbath Mode Control Lock Capability Delay Clean Option Hi / Low Broil In-Oven Broiling Digipad Numeric Entry
Cooking Technology	Convection
Lower Oven Features	Dual element bake Bake knob control; inifinite heat settings; removable insert
Fuel Type	Natural Gas (factory set)
Interior Oven Light	Yes
Leveling System	4 Leveling Legs
Oven Cooking Modes	Convection Bake Convection Roast
Oven Lockout	Yes
Oven Rack Features	3 Oven Racks 6 Embossed Rack Positions
Scratch-Resistant Backguard	Stainless
APPEARANCE
Color Appearance	Stainless Steel
Control Knobs	Stainless Steel appearance
Cooktop Burner Grate Color	Black Matte
Frameless Oven Door(s)	Stainless Steel
Handle	Stainless Steel
Oven Door Features	Profiile™ XL
WEIGHTS & DIMENSIONS
Approximate Shipping Weight	255 lb
Cabinet Width	30 in
Depth With Oven Door Open 90 Degrees (in.)	46-3/8
Net Weight (lbs.)	235 lb
Oven Interior Dimensions (W x H x D) (in.)	24 x 19 x 19
Overall Depth	26 1/4 in
Overall Height	47 3/16 in
Overall Width	30 in
POWER / RATINGS
Baking Drawer Wattage	1212
Electrical Requirements	120V; 60Hz; 15A
Oven/Broiler BTU Rating - LP (000's BTU's)	16.0 Oven / 12.0 Broiler
Oven/Broiler BTU Rating - Nat. Gas (000's BTU's)	16.0 Oven / 13.5 Broiler
Top Burner BTU Rating - LP (000's BTU's)	(1) 11.0; (2) 9.1; (1) 5.0;
Top Burner BTU Rating - Nat. Gas (000's BTU's)	(1) 15.0; (1) 11.0 (1) 9.1; (1) 5.0
ACCESSORIES
LP Conversion Kit	Included
WARRANTY
Parts Warranty	Limited 1-year entire appliance
Labor Warranty	Limited 1-year entire appliance
Warranty Notes	For models produced on or after January 1, 2006 See written warranty for full details

[ruf-porsche]

Originally Posted by Dottore

Since you're a Porsche guy, you should at least look at a Miele.

Or Gaggenau.

Mrs Ruf has a Miele gas cooktop and a Miele electric convection oven. She also have an electric barbeque grill and an electric deep fryer. We also have a Miele dishwasher. For what we spent on the kitchen I could be driving a 993. Now if only she could cook. Great tools doesn't always mean a great cook.

I just grill during the summer on my Cheap weber grill. Best steaks ever.

[Turboo934]

Viking makes a 30" stove. Man this is the bomb, well worth the money.

[RWebb]

can I vote for Dacor?

I have Dacor gas cooktop & sep. Bosch oven.