911 & 928?

NapTownSpeedy · 11-27-2002, 01:56 PM

How many of you guys own two different types of Pcars? I love my SC and it is terrific fun. It starts every day and is my only car. However, my job is requiring me to drive more and more. I think it is ok to drive the SC, it was meant to be driven. But I start to think about getting something else to beat on for work, and just fun stuff for the SC.
I see that many own 944 NA's. I have never been a real fan of them; but they are cheap, good handling, more modern, yada yada. But I have been looking at 928's as well. I drove an S4 and it had terrific power, ample luxury, but was totally different. It is a big car to throw around. I know there are some electrical issues and something about pre-85 automatic trans. But I can pick one up for about as much as a good E30.
I do most of the maintenance on my SC, is this still possible on the 928? What do you think about a 928 as a DD?
Thanks

Joe Ricard · Joe Ricard's Garage

For the long haul my 78 5 speed is the winner hands down. Cruising the highway is the place to be. Awesome torgue long legs and will spank a Mustang to the point them $30,000 cars eventually get a blower to run with me.

74 914 1950 lbs. 115 HP, big brakes, lowered, Basically mash the gas and turn the wheel. If you can follow me in the twisties, "You da man" Smiles per mile either way I love my Porsches.

gmaltz · 12-17-2002, 07:41 PM

The 944 is very simple and economical to operate and own and a blast to drive. The 928 is fairly complicated and not as economical to own and operate but it is also a blast to drive. Why not have one of each! You deserve it my freind!

Adam · Adam's Garage

My Mother drives a mint '85 928S2 (4.7/310bhp - Euro). This prompted me to buy a 928 as soon as I could afford one. It was an '81 4.5 5-speed (10:1 comp) and it was a rocket!

I bought my first 911 ('76 911S Coupe) about 2 years later and then put the 928 on the market. April 2002, I bought my '89 3.2 Cab, which is the most awesome car I've ever owned. Since I bought the Carrera, we have had 3 Porsches in the family.

I like the 928, it's power is supreme, but you're aware of it's bulk on the twisty stuff. Nothing out there is a better long-distance cruiser. I thought the '89 Cab was a nice car to drive interstate, but the 928 kicks it's ass.

Ever cruised at 135mph?

I have!

danbokem · 04:24 PM

I will take the 928 over a 911 anyday!
As a former 911sc owner i leaned my lesson the hard way!
i was so use to the power and handling of a shark, that i thought it held true with the 911....but not true!
it was not that great in the winter.....and i know about winters eh!
as for the 928, remember they built this car from a blank piece of paper, not just an evolving vw bug here.
a good set of winter tires and your set.
parts will cost a bit more than the 911, but i still think it's a great bang for your $......plus there are so many 928 people out there that are always willing to help!
as for my 911sc ..well the only good thing about it, is that they keep their value and i sold it in a flash...... got a vette instead
good luck!

Rob McKibbon · 02-28-2003, 11:56 AM

What kind of talk is that for a Canadian?????

danbokem · 03-10-2003, 12:50 AM

have you ever driven a 928?

CJFusco · CJFusco's Garage

I have driven several different Porsches, so I will throw my 2 cents into the ring.

"earlier" 911: I drove my mechanic's 1982 911SC (I know, it's not an early car, but it felt a lot different than a 993). This car was a blast to drive: torquey, nimble, and just plain fun. Around turns it can get a little worrisome, for the handling is a little twichy at speed.

"later" 911: I had the absolute pleasure to drive a 1995 993 Cab... man, what a hoot! It is undoubtedly the fastest car I have ever driven, and the handling felt on-par with the 944-series cars I have driven... although it does feel a little on the heavy side after driving a SC and a 944.

928: The first Porsche I ever drove was a 1980 grey-market 928S. I remember it being very fast in the straight line, and it handled well, but felt hefty through the turns. What I have always understood is that if you want a fast luxury car with the capabilities of a Porsche, get a 928.

944: My car is a 1983 944. Not as fast as the other Porsches listed, I feel confident it would hand any of the others (except maybe the 993) their walking papers on a track. The handling is simply amazing... turn-in is sharp, steering feel is precise, body roll is minimal (the 928 had the most body roll by far). What the 944 lacks in low-end grunt (the car doesn't begin to REALLY pull until 3000rpm in 3rd gear), it more than makes up for in driveability. I have also driven a 1986 944 and a 1987 924S; the later 944 felt slightly less nimble due to the weight that the car put on over the years, and the 924S felt almost identical to my car, possibly even better-handling (it's close anyway).

estes · 03-18-2003, 09:15 AM

As luck would have it, I own both a 1980 911SC and a 1983 928S. I've driven the 911 for 5 years and it has been my project/daily driver. I bought the 928 about a month ago in california and drove it back to colorado. As far as a road cruiser, the 928 beats the snot out of the 911. But getting into and out of the 928 is a pain in the butt. I have a 5 speed on both units. The 5 speed on the 928 has a totally different shift patern than the 911. Switching between both totally screws you up. The 928 is useless on any kind of bad roads, ie snow. The 50/50 weight distribution makes them squirelly as all get out. The 928 power wise is a real kick to drive. It sets you back in the seat when you punch it. Parts and repair manuals are hard to come by on the 928 as far as after markets are concerned. The 911 has a plethora of places buy parts. Not so with the 928. Many sites tout 928 parts but when you get into them the selectionis minimal. As a daily driver, I'll stick with my 911.

cas · 04-02-2003, 10:12 PM

danbokem.evolving bug? no,the bug was designed by porsche for ''hitlers people" and get your numbers streight,a bug is a more like a detuned 912 not a 911.and only by resembelance not by designe. two different companys

. two different cars.allso, the euro 928 310hp rating is conservitave,in germany,taxes are figured by hp.to keep taxes low the 928 is rated at 310 but it's more like 330 or 340. cas.

danbokem · 04-17-2003, 01:41 AM

it's a bug....with 2 extra cylinders, as for styling -that was the only thing i liked about my 911!
nothing pissed me of more when a friend got into my 911 when i first got it and said...hey it reminds me of my old man's bug...heat exchangers and all....but then again like i said..every one wants a 911

AFJuvat · 04-17-2003, 06:41 AM

Would say a 356 would be closer to a bug than either the 911 or the 912, especially the Pre-A models.

AFJuvat

Lukesportsman · 04-20-2003, 08:51 PM

Doesn't a 924 and a Super Beetle share a few ideas too under the skin

danbokem · 04-21-2003, 12:16 AM

......i think you mean audi and 924 go hand in hand

Lukesportsman · 04-22-2003, 10:33 AM

I was actually thinking suspension with super beetle. Since, many super beetle guys take parts off the 944 for the suspension to lighten and improve.

Yes, enine and transaxle of 924 were Audi :-)

PbFoot · 04-23-2003, 08:42 AM

Wait, I thought Super Beetle is more like the 914...

LNDSHRK · 04-23-2003, 12:10 PM

Holy smokes...

I'll chime in with a couple of thoughts. I drive a 1967 911S. A buddy had a VW beetle. He said the same thing when he got in and I reminded him of the 911 heritage. To make a long story short, he agreed that my wheels are certainly no bug - I just about had to help him peel his fingers off the passenger side door handle!

I wandered into this discussion because I'm looking at a 928 as a daily driver too. From the responses I see here this is a bad idea unless the pocket book is already fat and getting fatter.

Cheers all. Summer is here and it is time to scare some Hondas with fart pipes!

Ciao;

LNDSHRK

sammyg2 · 05-24-2003, 03:20 AM

If a 911 is an evolving bug, a corvette is a spruced up Vega.

LNDSHRK · 05-24-2003, 12:23 PM

Not big on history, eh? The 911 was originally named the 901. why? The fresh Porsche design used some VW parts. To keep in line with the part numbering system the Porsche model was given the next available 3-digit code - 901. Peugot got upset because their cars all had 3 digit names with a 0 in the middle. Porsche obliged and changed the number to the next logical code - 911 - but perhaps you already knew that.

The 911 was designed to replace the 356. The 356 brought Porsche forward from WW2 and the design borrowed heavily from the Volkswagen. Place an early 911 beside a late 356 and the similarities are quite amazing. Draw your own conclusions, but when you sit in a late 60's Beetle and a SWB 911 the interior defitiely reminds one of the other.

Is it a Beetle - NO - not even close. Can it remind you of one? Certiainly IMHO.

PbFoot · 05-27-2003, 04:53 AM

LNDSHRK, by your handle I'd thought you have a 928 already. I just purchased my 928S about 3 months ago. I originally bought it as a daily driver. However, since the car is in mint condition, I decided to keep my 83 Mercedes 500SE and drive both.

Don't let all the previous posts scare you. There is no cruiser better than the 928. Yes, the maintenance and repair costs are relatively high compared to 911s (I had a 1976 911 3.0L Carrera). However, the key is to find a well cared for shark. Don't give up so easy. Good luck in finding one.