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Don't know about the tin, need to see pictures. You can mock it up with a cheap length of radiator hose and then make a decision. The turbo placement should not require trimming the tin. If it does there is an alignment issue somewhere.
Not sure how you did the header install. When I mock-up the SSI system Y-pipe I start by mounting the turbo in place and hooking everything to it and work backwards towards the heat exchangers. Too many things hook to the turbo for it not to be the focal point of proper fitment. Your headers may not have slip joints in places that allow that option. Ben had some high heat hose and T-band clamps left over from turbo work he was doing. You might shoot him an e-mail.
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Local SPEED shop if you have one. You can also get them on ebay or from TIAL Motorsports amongst others.
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---Les Garten---85 930, Andial IC, GHL Headers, Fabspeed Dual, K-27 HF2, 3.4 JE Full Finned 7.5:1 CR, 964 CAM'd, Carerra 3.2 Manifold Cut/Flipped, Tec3r, Siemans 55#, GSF Fuel Rails, Clewett Crank Trigger, Clewett Cam Trigger,Dual Plugged, ARP Head Studs/Rod Bolts, Clewett Wires.Tial 46mm WG, Tial 50mm BOV, WEVO Shifter,934 Boost Gauge, Wideband EGO Sensor/Gauge, C2T Head Gaskets, '88 MB 300TE,BMW R100RT |
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Hi Bill, I haven't done mine yet. My plan is to machine it at the bottom and leave a non-tapered portion that has a recess for the hose clamp down into.
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You should use silicone hose specifically made for turbo applications. It has the chemical and temp resistance ou need plus it is reinforced so that it can take the pressure from boost without bellowing much.
I ordered mine from ATPTurbo.com.....great prices and big selection. I personally did not want to cut up my uppipe to the inercooler but like LESGARTEN said, I needed to make extensive mods to the end of my k27S turbo outlet to get the adaptor to fit. I destroyed 2 o-rings before getting everything fitted correctly. Included cutting 1/4 inch of the end of the compressor outlet to get the intercooler installed height somewhat level and correct. Your best lossening the compressor bolts so that it can rotate about the center section during the trial fit to make sure everything mounts ideally as well. Be patient as getting everything aligned after this swap is a PIA. Worth the effort, the k27S is a great improvement in boost, reducing lag and boosting till redline. I have not dynoed yet but cannot wait for the chance. Fred ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Hi,
It also makes more sense to chop up a $250 Boost pipe versus chopping up a $1500-$2000 turbo IMHO.
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It all installed without a hitch today. We didn't even have to trim the tin and everything lined up. The only thing left to do is to get some of that flex heater tubing for the DS up through the tin. The stuff that was there basically fell apart.
About the time we got it to a point where we could actaully take it for a drive we already had about .5 in of snow on the ground. ![]() Thanks for everyones help on this especially Oh Haha for being here to turn the wrenches with me!
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Yep, no real problems at all today. Well, except for the stupid freakin' snowstorm that I had to drive home in with the 911. Yeah, it's not exactly a winter weather car.
I learned a lot from helping Bill with this install. One thing for sure is the fit of these GHL headers. Excellent fit with just a bit of manipulation. They really did just bolt right up to the heads. This thing is going to be a beast!!!!! As I was watching for oil leaks I kind of envisioned the old 935 techs working thier magic at the track, bumper off, big ol' turbo whining away inches from their faces, loving all of it. Good times, good times.
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Happy for you
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Glad everything went well. I just moved to CA from West Michigan (Grand haven) and know about the frozen tundra that you are experiencing. I hope everything with the car works out. Best of luck, Bryan |
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Hey Bill, have you tried it yet?
When are you coming back south? I'm curious about your mods... and would like to compare... :-) |
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![]() ![]() Thanks to Oh Haha for giving me some heater hose today. All I have to do now is get a hose clamp. I thought I had one but they were all just too short. I'll be done tonight for sure.
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You know, I was going to ask if you had clamps when we talked today. duh
I like the sound clip. It is more quiet than the stock turbo by far. Next Saturday is supposed to be 50 degrees. WOOHOO!!
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