Slantnose, Slant nose,Slope, M505 factory 930S documents, registry, ultimate,flachbau

[martin_gibson]

Originally Posted by ibanezjs

Very very interresting!! I'm French and i want to know if you can have some informations about my car: My VIN is WP0ZZZ93ZCS000224 and is not far than the one of the yellow car!

Porsche maintains a list of all 'werk 1 conversions' (under lock and key) which will identify whether your vehicle is a factory 'Special Wishes' conversion - if your local dealer cannot help it may be worth contacting the (new) Porsche museum to enquire whether they can tap into their achives?

Martin

[raj911]

Originally Posted by martin_gibson

Porsche maintains a list of all 'werk 1 conversions' (under lock and key) which will identify whether your vehicle is a factory 'Special Wishes' conversion - if your local dealer cannot help it may be worth contacting the (new) Porsche museum to enquire whether they can tap into their achives?

Martin

Hey Martin,

The black and the yellow are the same car. Looked so much better in black, they had the same number SBU8911. This is the other car, that has been fully restored. Ths silver one.

Are you coming for the meet up this Saturday? Finally got the 930 battery changed and she is back on the road, and we can go check the 67 out after that.

Cheers

[martin_gibson]

Originally Posted by raj911

Are you coming for the meet up this Saturday? Finally got the 930 battery changed and she is back on the road

Only if I get a lift in the 'Ah Beng' mobile

Martin

[raj911]

Originally Posted by martin_gibson

Only if I get a lift in the 'Ah Beng' mobile

Martin

Sure Mate, I will come get you. will arrange time on SMS

[EmptyGarage]

Do factory slantnose's manufactured before 1986 have some value as 1986 and newer models? What about mileage does 80K miles make a big difference ? Could a special wishes car be ordered with 400 hp?

[WERK I]

Originally Posted by EmptyGarage

Do factory slantnose's manufactured before 1986 have some value as 1986 and newer models?

I like to think so.
But due to the scarcity of these cars, it is really hard to say one way or the other. You will find differing opinions on the subject of Sunderwunsch car values.
Mileage will always make a difference on the show cars (a.k.a garage queens).

Originally Posted by EmptyGarage

What about mileage does 80K miles make a big difference ? ?

It really depends what has been done or not done as far as maintenance to the car during its 80K life.

Originally Posted by EmptyGarage

Could a special wishes car be ordered with 400 hp?

As far I know, there was not a 400BHP engine available, but with Special Wishes, anything was possible if the Werke I facility wanted to take it on. I have the precursor of the U.K.'s 930 SE engine. Bigger turbo, more aggressive cams, less restrictive exhaust, front mounted oil cooler for a 330BHP engine.

[EmptyGarage]

Originally Posted by WERK I

I like to think so.
But due to the scarcity of these cars, it is really hard to say one way or the other. You will find differing opinions on the subject of Sunderwunsch car values.
Mileage will always make a difference on the show cars (a.k.a garage queens). It really depends what has been done or not done as far as maintenance to the car during its 80K life.
As far I know, there was not a 400BHP engine available, but with Special Wishes, anything was possible if the Werke I facility wanted to take it on. I have the precursor of the U.K.'s 930 SE engine. Bigger turbo, more aggressive cams, less restrictive exhaust, front mounted oil cooler for a 330BHP engine.

Hi, Check PM!

[WERK I]

Empty,
PM's replied.

[ibanezjs]

This one looks really near my car!

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IMCDb.org: Porsche 911 in "Scorpion, 1986"

I've to find the movie

[Slantnose Steve]

Kilodawg: How are things coming along with the slant nose registry website? Anything to report, yet?

[kilodawg]

Hi Steve,

Sorry Ive been out of pocket. Divorce has become the operative word for me so far this year. I'm doing my best to try and keep the car but much of my attention and focus has been directed to that front. Wish me luck and hopefully I'll be back in the swing of things soon.

[onboost]

Snap..! Good luck with that situation Kilo.. been there and done that. Always an adventure.

P-

[Slantnose Steve]

Wishing you all the best, 'dawg!
Take care of business and report back to us later.
Hope you can hang on to that sweet ride of yours...

[Slantnose Steve]

Thank you for your post, Kenny, and welcome to the forum!
You have a nice looking car with interesting specs...it's always good to hear more about the Special Wishes cars that are still in existence around the world. We look forward to additional posts from you, along with any other photos that you'd like to share with the group.

[kycarguy 935]

Thanks for posting Kenny and welcome to Pelican.

That is a nice looking car you have and it is always good to hear of other rare Sonderwunsch-Program cars.

[SCcaretaker]

Excuse me if this is a repost, but Excellence magazine issue #9, June 1988 has a great article by Bruce Anderson that is a comprehensive overview of slopenose conversions by the factory and others.

[Swedishman]

Hello Kenny, do you have a picture of your boost control ? I have a boostcontrol in my car too,
but it is placed where the ashtray was before.

Please post a picture.

Have a nice day.

Ted

[Kraftday]

I think this is an excellent idea. Sure, now that black beauty is for sale!



See listing at Porsche 930 Flatnose : For Private Sale or the eBay listing here.

[bxtech]

Wow! This is a fantastic thread on the slantnose! Lots of great info! Scans of the original brochures, documents and articles were very interesting to see! Thanks everyone for the input! There is a very high level of passion for these slantnose cars!

I am considering the purchase of a 1983 which the owner claims to be a factory slant. Before I make the drive to physically look at the car, I would like to find out what details I should be looking for to identify that this is in fact an original. I've always loved these slantnoses, but I really don't know much about the authenticity aspect or what to look for. I have a few questions for all of you if you don't mind.

1) From what I understand, there should be only one headlight motor which is centrally mounted right behind the front bumper in the trunk? From pictures, it looks like a fairly complicated linkage system going to each light. If the car has separate headlight motors.......fake?

2) Are the actual headlights on these cars always round? If the car has square headlights......that would indicate a conversion/aftermarket parts?

3) From what I understand, there are unique serial numbers on the slantnose front end parts. True? Where exactly would I be able to see these numbers?

4) I've also read that there are some custom moulded plastic parts that are in the front trunk. Would anybody have some pictures of these parts or description on what these look like?

5) From what I understand, the slantnose was basically an option on a "normal" 930. Would the VIN be able to identify an original slant, or will it only designate a regular 930?

6) I've also read that there are some wooden slats or parts for the cooling vents in the rear quarter panels? What exactly should I be looking for here?

7) What else should I be looking for on this car to verify? Any advice, tips, suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

With any luck, I hope to be a part of this passionate group of slantnose owners one day!

Thanks very much in advance!

[WERK I]

Originally Posted by bxtech

Wow! This is a fantastic thread on the slantnose! Lots of great info! Scans of the original brochures, documents and articles were very interesting to see! Thanks everyone for the input! There is a very high level of passion for these slantnose cars!

I am considering the purchase of a 1983 which the owner claims to be a factory slant. Before I make the drive to physically look at the car, I would like to find out what details I should be looking for to identify that this is in fact an original. I've always loved these slantnoses, but I really don't know much about the authenticity aspect or what to look for. I have a few questions for all of you if you don't mind.

1) From what I understand, there should be only one headlight motor which is centrally mounted right behind the front bumper in the trunk? From pictures, it looks like a fairly complicated linkage system going to each light. If the car has separate headlight motors.......fake?

That is correct. The headlight motor is cylindrical in shape with a rubber boot on top of it. Quite visible when you open up the front bonnet, right below the bonnet latch.

2) Are the actual headlights on these cars always round? If the car has square headlights......that would indicate a conversion/aftermarket parts?

Yes, always round.

3) From what I understand, there are unique serial numbers on the slantnose front end parts. True? Where exactly would I be able to see these numbers?

Not necessarily part numbers, but stampings Porsche uses as part of their manufacturing process. Unfortunately, they may not always be visible since they may be painted over.

4) I've also read that there are some custom moulded plastic parts that are in the front trunk. Would anybody have some pictures of these parts or description on what these look like?

They are, from what I've seen, fiberglass. See photo below.

5) From what I understand, the slantnose was basically an option on a "normal" 930. Would the VIN be able to identify an original slant, or will it only designate a regular 930?

Before Model Year 1987, there is no way to identify slants from VIN.

6) I've also read that there are some wooden slats or parts for the cooling vents in the rear quarter panels? What exactly should I be looking for here?

This is, I believe, somewhat of an urban myth. Wooden slats may have been on the early slants, '81 and '82, but all the ones I've seen are composite plastics.

7) What else should I be looking for on this car to verify? Any advice, tips, suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Check the contour of the rear brake ducts. The outer edge on the factory cars will always follow the contour of the wheel lip. In other words, the line of the brake duct is always parallel with the wheel well lip. See photo below.
The jacking point at the rocker panel will have an extension of the existing tube with an additional tube welded in at 45 degrees to the frame.
Then there's the famous windshield washer bottle that is tucked underneath the driver's side headlight, visible only by removing splash panel in wheelwell. See photo below.

With any luck, I hope to be a part of this passionate group of slantnose owners one day!

Thanks very much in advance!

Comments above in green.

Headlight arm mechanism. Cloth wrapped oil lines shown for Sonderwunsch engines (330BHP) front mounted oil cooler with special front valance.



Washer bottle.



Brake vent contour.