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I'm about ready to start the building process and having this thread revived was fortunate and timely. I decided that getting the Viton green O-rings was imperitive and stopped by the local NAPA store for some more sealants. They had never heard of ThreeBond.

I called and talked to Henry at SuperTec and he discouraged me from usng him for this small order as parts is not their preferred business. Their website does have the ThreeBond products listed in this thread. Henry did not say weather he had them on hand but referred me to Engine Builders Supply in Reno.

EBSracing.com was my next stop and I called them. They do not have the ThreeBond products listed in this thread and said they are no longer being produced because of environmental issues. They did have ThreeBond 1194. I ordered the Vitron Green O-Rings and RSR seals while I was at it.

Has anyone sourced the ThreeBond 1101 and 1211 lately?
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We do have ThreeBond products listed on our website and we would be more than happy to sell our products.
Our web site clearly states that we have a minimum order of just $100 dollars.
You wouldn't believe the number of grommet hunters who ask to buy 6 washers and a nut. The purpose of the minimum order is to allow us to sell parts and supplies without loosing money on each sale.

As with all symbiotic relationships, the buyer /seller relationship should benefit both parties. If a company can afford to give something away [loose money on a transaction] then they are making it up somewhere else. Generally that means overcharging on something/everything else. We do not operate that way.
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It is good to know that there is a source for the ThreeBond products. I apologize to Henry for overstating his concern with parts orders. He did explain to me on the phone that outgoing orders need to be driven to the shippers requiring an employee to do so. SO.. give the SuperTec site a lookover and find some other goodies to boost your order when you need these sealants.
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I think Henry has gathered a kit so that you guys can get what you need if you cannot get it from Pelican.

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I thought I'd save a little time just sourcing the 574 locally...what a PITA. Ended up accidentally ordering the huge tube which would probably cover 5 rebuilds then ordered the smaller tube which took forever. I should have just ordered from Pelican like everything else. Probably will for the Curil T but now I've sort of been scared off of using it.
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I could have used the big tube since I had to seal my case TWICE!!!

Yep, long story ... but I had to tear the case apart 3 hours after sealing it. I used up all of my 574 on the second try and I need more for the cam housings. The strange thing is that when I took it apart, most of the sealant was either on the inside mating surface or it had squeezed to the outside. Not much on the mating surfaces at all ... makes me wonder.

I, too, thought I could get it locally ... no dice.

For the record, I used 574 on the left side of the case. I will report back after I get the engine completed and drive it a while ... let you all know if it leaks.
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Hopefully I have not shot myself in the foot by switching to the smaller tube. I guess the purpose of the 574 is to fill in the microscopic gaps and keep it from leaking which would "seal" it but not impact the fit of the bearings on the crank. I'd hate to have to account for the "sealant factor" when putting an engine back together.
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I found all my Three Bond sealants here, http://www.z1enterprises.com
This company is really good and reliable.
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I found all my Three Bond sealants here, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/XXXXXXXXX.com
This company is really good and reliable.
I wonder if posting a link to a Pelican Parts competitor is really a great idea.
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I wonder if posting a link to a Pelican Parts competitor is really a great idea.
Allow me to state the facts here; first of all, Z1 Enterprises is a company that supplies Motorcycle parts and accessories. Does Porsche make motorcycles? I know BMW does but we are not talking about BMW, we are talking about Porsche and Porsche engines. Secondly, to my understanding on this BB, people help each other out. In the past people on this BB have helped me tremendously, and with out this BB I would have been in serious trouble, therefore I would try to help my fellow pelican's to the best of my ability. Lastly, if I have offended the higher up's at Pelican by posting a measly link so that a fellow Pelican can sleep a little bit easer tonight than I offer my apologies. If you want to talk about loyalty to this company, than I am loyal and I have every single receipt that tally way over 13k so far to prove that I am. So instead of being a flamer be a helper instead!
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Allow me to state the facts here; first of all, Z1 Enterprises is a company that supplies Motorcycle parts and accessories. Does Porsche make motorcycles? I know BMW does but we are not talking about BMW, we are talking about Porsche and Porsche engines. Secondly, to my understanding on this BB, people help each other out. In the past people on this BB have helped me tremendously, and with out this BB I would have been in serious trouble, therefore I would try to help my fellow pelican's to the best of my ability. Lastly, if I have offended the higher up's at Pelican by posting a measly link so that a fellow Pelican can sleep a little bit easer tonight than I offer my apologies. If you want to talk about loyalty to this company, than I am loyal and I have every single receipt that tally way over 13k so far to prove that I am. So instead of being a flamer be a helper instead!
I agree with you. It seems like a popular sealant that is not offered by Pelican. As a result, sharing the source is both fair and proper.

Thanks! (although I already used Loctite 574 that I purchased from Pelcian )
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So instead of being a flamer be a helper instead!
Maybe you should search Henry's name on the forum here before you make a suggestion such as this?
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Allow me to state the facts here; first of all, Z1 Enterprises is a company that supplies Motorcycle parts and accessories. Does Porsche make motorcycles? I know BMW does but we are not talking about BMW, we are talking about Porsche and Porsche engines. Secondly, to my understanding on this BB, people help each other out. In the past people on this BB have helped me tremendously, and with out this BB I would have been in serious trouble, therefore I would try to help my fellow pelican's to the best of my ability. Lastly, if I have offended the higher up's at Pelican by posting a measly link so that a fellow Pelican can sleep a little bit easer tonight than I offer my apologies. If you want to talk about loyalty to this company, than I am loyal and I have every single receipt that tally way over 13k so far to prove that I am. So instead of being a flamer be a helper instead!
Posting links to competitive websites is a violation of the rules. They are simple rules and many posting privileges have been suspended for just that simple infraction. Henry was just pointing that out.
As for being a "Flamer instead of a helper" I assume you're kidding. Henry has helped more people on this forum than you with your limited understanding can fathom.
The sealing techniques listed in this thread were primarily quotes from him. Go back and read and perhaps you'll get it.
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I don't know about all of you but when I click on Henry's XXXXXXXX.com site I just get porn!! No sealer?
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Posting links to competitive websites is a violation of the rules. They are simple rules and many posting privileges have been suspended for just that simple infraction. Henry was just pointing that out.
As for being a "Flamer instead of a helper" I assume you're kidding. Henry has helped more people on this forum than you with your limited understanding can fathom.
The sealing techniques listed in this thread were primarily quotes from him. Go back and read and perhaps you'll get it.
I wasn't referring to Henry as a flamer; I was just making a general statement about how people should simply help each other out when people are in need regardless of these so called rules & regulations. I did read thread and maybe my understanding is limited but at the very least I'm not quick to attack and point out every single mistake us people with limited knowledge make. I didn't mean to come off as a smart ass in my previous post so I apologize to HS if I did, and I wouldn't doubt his knowledge on the subject matter one bit. Infraction you say? How about the mentioning of EBS and Nappa on this thread, are they not competitors? And, I can guarantee even more so than the link I provided earlier. I provided the link in good nature, with no harm intended but again my knowledge is limited. HS thanks for the infraction warning, Turbo_Pro I can care less if I get suspended, I speak my mind whether it's limited or not.
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Pelican Parts provides this forum for free. They don't get paid by any of us for this very valuable service. They and volunteers have compiled a great deal of information as a service to us while asking for little in return.
We are very lucky to have several world class experts posting here regularly, just to share their wealth of knowledge for our benefit. I truly appreciate all that these people do for us for free, asking for little in return.
Pelican Parts asks that we not post links to their competitors' websites and that's very little to ask in return for all of the time and expense that is required to build and maintain a forum as big and comprehensive as this. They even allow used parts classifieds! They could be selling some of those parts to us new, but they see classifieds as yet another service that we can benefit from.
Have a little grace and some class, please.
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Pelican Parts provides this forum for free. They don't get paid by any of us for this very valuable service. They and volunteers have compiled a great deal of information as a service to us while asking for little in return.
We are very lucky to have several world class experts posting here regularly, just to share their wealth of knowledge for our benefit. I truly appreciate all that these people do for us for free, asking for little in return.
Pelican Parts asks that we not post links to their competitors' websites and that's very little to ask in return for all of the time and expense that is required to build and maintain a forum as big and comprehensive as this. They even allow used parts classifieds! They could be selling some of those parts to us new, but they see classifieds as yet another service that we can benefit from.
Have a little grace and some class, please.
This is true and I appreciate it, but be aware that Pelican is first of all a company who's not a charity ; hosting forums like this is a very good way to "hold" part of the market. Most members on these lists are likely to check Pelican first for parts, and in fact even pay more for parts just because it may help fun the list. It builds up strong "brand" loyalty, and in fact as compared to a bricks and motar company, is a pretty good investment for the advertising and market presence it creates. Creating links to competitors erodes the brand and that is why its not allowed.

Overall , its a fantastic symbiotic strategy and has benefits to both sides. There are other just as active forums (Rennlist comes to mind) that do not have this orientation, but have memberhship fees that fund the infrastructure. They also have some restrictions regarding sponsors and such.

IMHO anyways, for what's its worth!

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................... I was just making a general statement about how people should simply help each other out when people are in need regardless of these so called rules & regulations. ...................................... I can care less if I get suspended, I speak my mind whether it's limited or not.
A noble goal (helping those in need) but the self serving arrogance of the last part of your statement (regardless of the so called rules........) is overwhelming.
When people come together in a community, self control & community standards (rules) are the only things that prevent anarchy. Learning to exist in that community requires that you respect the rules when expressing yourself. If being suspended doesn't matter to you, perhaps you should just move on now.

I personally enjoy this community and believe me I am not a champion of rules but this forum is worth the simple effort required to obey the standards set by the owner.

Try to remember that this is private property and as such the owner can regulate the content any way he sees fit.

I think I'll climb down off my soap box now, cheers.
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I got my engine back from the shop and did the initial run in before break in. The engine had gone back to the shop back in February because it was leaking from all of the base cylinder gaskets the worst of them was coming from #3. Well the shop got all of the leaks plugged but #3 still is dripping. Should i at this point go break the engine in and drive it, and live with the leak. I plan on removing the engine to adjust the valves in about 500 miles of break in driving. is there anything i can smear on the area that i find is leaking like a Threebond 1104 to slow it up. If i bring my engine back to the builder i am afraid i will have to wait another year to drive my car it's already been over a year and a half since this started.
I am at a point now to consider shipping it out to Henry to look at...

I TOOK THE CAR OUT FOR A COUPLE OF BREAK IN RUNS
Car is very scary, even trying to drive it careful was very difficult for me. I am sure i will get used to in time, but feel i need a few more gears.
I had a hard time looking at the gauges and when i was i didn't like what i saw, I was boosting way higher than what i should of been since i set it lower for the break in.
I couldn't hear the BOV let go either. Everything is hooked up the way it always has been, and double checking it i find nothing in the wrong order. I will turn back my MBC further to see if that helps things.
I was at 14lbs in a snap. not sure of the A/R's but when i did look they were on the leaner side of my comfort zone.
The BAD news now, engine is leaking oil from the same areas as it was before, this sucks so bad, the shop has wasted so much time getting the engine built the first time and the second time now, i have waited over a year and a half for this engine to
get built right and it looks like i am back to square one. I could drive it sparingly for awhile and mop it up after every drive, or i pull the engine and ship it out to Henry at Supertec to fix right and hope i get it back to enjoy the Fall season.

Anyhow it was fun finally driving the car again, but am very disappointed with the shop guys right now.

I am going to drink a few Benders and go to bed........
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