2022 F1 Thread

[Eric Hahl]

Well, congrats to Sergio! Way to go.

[matthewb0051]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Liberty and Monaco are coming to loggerheads; there is no contract in place for next year, both factions think they hold sway, and there will be blood. Have we seen the last race at the principality? Stay tuned!

Man I sure hope they keep Monaco. Even though it has changed with the armco squeezing everything, it still carries so much history.

The only thing I would do away with is the idiocy of celebrities in attendance. For example: Simone Ashley from Bridgerton refusing to even speak with Brundle. She couldn't even be bothered to say it herself, had to hide behind a publicist guy. The only reason I knew her name was because Martin said it, no idea who she is or what she does but she certainly thinks highly of herself.

I was watching this past weekend and thought I saw several areas where they could widen. The chicane by swimming pool is pretty tight, nouveau chicane is too tight, last corner before start/finish straight is too tight. Seems like if they could push barriers back a bit here and there and it may be better.

[ted]

Yeah widen the Monaco race track a car width and add some nice grass run offs.

[Heel n Toe]

Originally Posted by matthewb0051

Man I sure hope they keep Monaco. Even though it has changed with the armco squeezing everything, it still carries so much history.

The solution is to have the teams build Formula Vees for the drivers. Or karts. The fans will love it.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by matthewb0051

Man I sure hope they keep Monaco. Even though it has changed with the armco squeezing everything, it still carries so much history.

Agree 100%

It's history, all too easy in this day and age of everything bright, shiny and new is better to forget the past

Once it's gone it's gone and motorsport and F1 will be a much duller world without it

Without the race the Triple Crown becomes unobtainable

[matthewb0051]

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr

Agree 100%

It's history, all too easy in this day and age of everything bright, shiny and new is better to forget the past

Once it's gone it's gone and motorsport and F1 will be a much duller world without it

Without the race the Triple Crown becomes unobtainable

Yep. I grew up in a town that was part of the Manhattan Project. In the 90s they started tearing down the old stuff that was built up in the 40s. Lost a lot of history. Now it is a bunch of empty strip malls and fast food joints.

[yellowperil]

Originally Posted by ted

Yeah widen the Monaco race track a car width and add some nice grass run offs.

Don't they still use the Mediterranean as a run-off ?

[matthewb0051]

^^^^

Weren't those new grandstands out in the water this past week? On way down to the swimming pool out on a dock.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by matthewb0051

Yep. I grew up in a town that was part of the Manhattan Project. In the 90s they started tearing down the old stuff that was built up in the 40s. Lost a lot of history. Now it is a bunch of empty strip malls and fast food joints.

Races like the Monaco GP, Le Mans 24hrs, Indy 500, Isle of Man TT etc should all have UNESCO World Heritage protection

For sure one day someone or some company will stop these races just to chase a few extra $'s

[URY914]

I remember when the pool was added. Who approved that one? I sure a lot of money was involved.

[Rtrorkt]

2 more years for Checko

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/61646036

[red 928]

Originally Posted by matthewb0051

Man I sure hope they keep Monaco. Even though it has changed with the armco squeezing everything, it still carries so much history.

goodwood and the Monterey historics
have history too, but they aren't real races

monaco is a game of follow the leader
where having the fastest car and the
best driver does not matter
it is the antithesis of a race

remember not that long ago when Ricky Riccardo
was way down on power, several seconds per lap
slower than even the back markers?
He still led and won the "race" because he
blocked anyone who tried to pass
what a joke that was

they need to figure out a way to make it possible
to actually race on the racetrack, or just
make it an annual event for the fans but with no points

[RBNetEngr]

While the weather added an element of suspense to the Monaco race, for me the race was still a yawner. With Alonso holding up the entire field so he could preserve his tires being the biggest disappointment.

When the race is a bore, and the win is based on pit strategy, it makes for a forgettable race.

The biggest excitement was Mick Schumacher breaking his car in half. That’s twice now this season, right (Saudi during qualifying, and now Monaco).


-rb

[Reg]

This next race in Baku is much more exciting for me. Amazing to see the cars fly down those streets.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

^^^ Doesn't Haas F1 have a main facility in NC and a sister hub in the UK ? So the Andretti business model may be similar. Contrary to popular belief there are lots of smart folks in the US 😁 . Andretti has good engineers across Indy/IMSA and I think WEC and formula E .

F1 is an expensive arena to play in . If the rules say you belly up to the bar with 200 million dollars , and you have the 200 million to spend along with a sound business model then let them in . The elite attitude of " we don't need them " is BS .

Additional teams bring the opportunity for more drivers/engineers/team support members this can't be a bad thing . Now if the sport is all about money vs racing competition then I can see the attitude " it's our ball and you can't play " .

I would say you can decide when do we have enough based on safety or qty of pit stalls . Just my opinion I could be wrong .

https://www.grandprix.com/news/maranello-hq-helping-haas-says-magnussen.html

As quoted from Magnussen...

"For all those years, our team was spread out over the world - the US, two places in Italy, one in England, so very spread out. In terms of communication, it makes it easier when you can just go to mate's desk and have a chat.

"And of course, the cars shows that too. So it's in a good place Haas are heading in."

This is why a fragmented F1 team located in different parts of the world with different time zones will never challenge for race wins

The race ends at the track, not starts at the track

[ted]

Originally Posted by ted

Yeah widen the Monaco race track a car width and add some nice grass run offs.

[RBNetEngr]

Originally Posted by ted

That’s excellent


-rb

[rusnak]

Why do the news sites keep talking about scratching Monaco? Jeezus, give it a rest. If Monaco goes, then you might as well scratch all of the European races and merge with Indycar and complete the conversion to a spec series while you're at it.

[yellowperil]

Originally Posted by rusnak

Why do the news sites keep talking about scratching Monaco? Jeezus, give it a rest. If Monaco goes, then you might as well scratch all of the European races and merge with Indycar and complete the conversion to a spec series while you're at it.

Well said, spot on.

[oldE]

Originally Posted by rusnak

Why do the news sites keep talking about scratching Monaco? Jeezus, give it a rest. If Monaco goes, then you might as well scratch all of the European races and merge with Indycar and complete the conversion to a spec series while you're at it.

That's quite a leap in thinking. I'm afraid I don't follow your argument suggesting if one narrow, unsuited track were dropped why Spa Jerez and Hockenheim must also go too.

Best
Les