2022 F1 Thread

[chapo]

Seems to me Ferrari should hire a NASCAR crew chief to manage their race and pit strategies, cant be that hard, the good ole boys seem to nail it every weekend.

[Rtrorkt]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Red Bull have now protested that last restart after VSC. Russell was not sandbagging as it appeared to all of us, Checo had resumed race pace prior to the light on his steering wheel going out to indicate he could do that. As a result, his sector time would have been too fast, and he would have been penalized, so he had to slow way, way down and wait for his light to go off.

Red Bull's protest is that the Sporting Regulations specify a precise time from declaration of the end of the VSC period to the resumption of racing. Checo resumed race pace at that time, not waiting for the light, which he either assumed was malfunctioning or possibly didn't even see. He then slowed, trying to avoid a penalty. Essentially, the doofus with his thumb on the button for the light - either an FIA or more likely a local race control official - cost him, and Red Bull, the position. Nothing the least bit "savvy" in any way about what Russell did. It was handed to him.

This is rich after Abu Dhabi last year.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt

This is rich after Abu Dhabi last year.

Very good point. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Except Red Bull managed to prevail when it was important, deciding a championship.

This does speak to one of my pet peeves concerning F1 - the lack of track to track consistency with regards to race control and track marshals. Look at how this new emphasis on track limits has all of their panties in a twist. As well it should. Very inconsistent from venue to venue.

[sc_rufctr]

[David Inc.]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Very good point. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Except Red Bull managed to prevail when it was important, deciding a championship.

This does speak to one of my pet peeves concerning F1 - the lack of track to track consistency with regards to race control and track marshals. Look at how this new emphasis on track limits has all of their panties in a twist. As well it should. Very inconsistent from venue to venue.

Different stewards every race, and they're alternating race directors. It's no way to build consistency but there seems to be no motivation to fix it. I mean, we keep watching, right? Until it costs money or the drivers start refusing to race they're not going to force all the different hosts to use a single set of stewards.

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Terrific, another whiny mercedes driver. And ham managed to top himself by claiming he lost 3 kilos of weight because his "drinks" bottle was broken. Not only did he drive harder than any other person ever in the history of driving, he also suffered.
He suffered!!!!

I mean if the drink bottle is broken it can be bad news. Sure Hamilton's life is pretty nice in general, but no drinks sucks. Remember the one race last year where he almost passed out on the podium from dehydration and heat exhaustion?

Originally Posted by RBNetEngr

Russell was saying something about the position of his car being on the inside in the turn, and the relationship of his front tire to Checo’s rear tire. So, he was implying that even though Checo’s car was ahead, that the position of his car on the inside of the turn meant that he had a right to the space (which he quickly took to the right curb, basically running Checo off the track). He kept indicating that he was correct, according to the passing rules.

Not sure where to see this rule to know who was correct. But given that no penalty was issued, was Russell correct?

Nope. He was 100% wrong and deserved a penalty, but stewards being stewards they tend to dole out penalties based on consequences, not actions, which is another way that they're failing to build consistency. Had he hit Checo and damaged the car he would have gotten a penalty for sure, but since Checo was able to hold the position they didn't give one. Same nonsense as Checo and Hamilton at Silverstone--Checo left no room as required but Hamilton avoided contact so no penalty.

[RBNetEngr]

Here’s more detail on the VSC screwup:

https://apple.news/A7wVxJhXpR_mWKQb5Lr-RBA

Oh, and clarification that Helmut Marko really is an ass.

[matthewb0051]

Originally Posted by RBNetEngr

Oh, and clarification that Helmut Marko really is an ass.

Did you see him push Kelly Piquet aside at the post race podium? He was trying to get to the front near Ginger Spice and Christian Horner and literally moved Kelly aside with an arm. She looked at him and he finally looked and saw who it was but didn't seem to say sorry or anything.

[David Inc.]

Originally Posted by RBNetEngr

Here’s more detail on the VSC screwup:

https://apple.news/A7wVxJhXpR_mWKQb5Lr-RBA

Oh, and clarification that Helmut Marko really is an ass.

Shocker.

Yeah it looks like Checo was building his delta back up and Russel was using his. When it started ending you could see Checo stayed on throttle on the straight a lot longer so had to keep his speed way down.

[berettafan]

Originally Posted by matthewb0051

Did you see him push Kelly Piquet aside at the post race podium? He was trying to get to the front near Ginger Spice and Christian Horner and literally moved Kelly aside with an arm. She looked at him and he finally looked and saw who it was but didn't seem to say sorry or anything.

Saw that as well. She nearly went down! What a jerk.

[Reg]

Did Stroll brake test Vettel on last corner? Some team player !! Vettel say either way it was one point for team. Slid down a few notches Lance.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

A little bit harsh but made me chuckle....

[URY914]

^^^ Harsh but seemingly true.

[rfuerst911sc]

It is being reported that Porsche has filed and disclosed that they are buying a 50% share of Red Bull F1 race team . They will be the engine supplier for Red Bull and Alpha Tauri . All brought on by the 2026 engine rules . Should be interesting .

[Captain Ahab Jr]

This is too good not to share.....and this folks is how you do it!

Our very own Pelican Multiple F1 World Champion

https://formulacareers.com/case-study/won-ju-composite-design-engineer-mercedes-amg-petronas-formula1-team/

[GH85Carrera]

Very cool! Congrats Won.

[Won]

Thanks guys! I've been quite busy with work this year as you can imagine, so took some time off Pelican. I was secretly hoping we would come out dominating and I can brag about my contribution to the "zero pod" chassis design, but hey ho. It's more fun this way for everyone though, right?

I don't know how and where you came across that article Captain! It's for a website/Linkedin group with the primary goal of collecting and sharing information for students/young professionals who are interested in F1 and other motorsport. I'm sure you can appreciate getting any first hand information about F1 is difficult, especially if you're not already in the UK. Somehow the group founders (a mother and daughter team) are managing to break down that barrier, and even getting F1 teams on board. I first had to clear that article with our comms team, but given the group's mission statement they were happy for me to do it. I've been helping/mentoring/simply talking to young people through that group, and a few have since made it into F1. I'm excited to see the project grow as more people enter the industry and pay it forward to the next generation.

While I'm on my soapbox, there is actually a more recent article that was published on Autosport. Similar topics, focusing more on composite design. I'm pretty sure being featured on the same page as Dr Helmut Marko and Fernando Alonso will be the peak of my F1 career Enjoy!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/how-to-become-composite-design-engineer-f1/10334402/

Same article but not behind paywall: https://www.motorsportjobs.com/en/blog/how-become-composite-design-engineer-f1-qualifications-skills-and-more

[astrochex]

Thats really cool Won.

I have an Autosport subscription and could post the text of the interview.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by astrochex

Thats really cool Won.

I have an Autosport subscription and could post the text of the interview.

Please do Paul, it's a great article, very informative

Everyone's route into F1 is different, for me determination beats academic prowess more times than not

The more youngsters from different backgrounds that can see that and believe the impossible is possible the better the future F1 gene pool will be for it

[Noah930]

That's the coolest thing on this whole thread. Kudos, Won.

[stealthn]

Very cool Won, I like the Canadian angle (being Canadian) 😀