What happened to the Mulholland "King of the Hill" RSR?

[SSB]

They will be all '80's photos that I'll pickout and scan. It should include the "eastway" & "westway" variations as they were the final designs of the track.
For years I'd go by Ontario Motor Speedway and see that the dirt that supported both turn one and turn three were still there 20 years later (infact, the OMS sign is still being used). Riverside was distroyed for a part of a parking lot to a mall. Then they ran a road diagonally through the middle just to make sure it was dead. In fact I believe the cement plant is still there.

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by lfot

Uhmm... yeah. Sorry about that. Looking back at the beginning of this thread, and after knowing you for a while, I kind of feel like a jerk. But it was just criticism and nothing personal, of course. I'm sure the next version will read like Tolstoy.

Actually I laughed about this. It kind of went like "so Chris how's it feel to get run over by the bus?" With a chuckle it went through the chicane into "he's a good guy". I agree.

Criticism is a good thing. It makes us better. Everyone here is unique. It's competitive spirit and I think we have all shared a lot of fun. Sometime's serious and many times not so. You gotta laugh!

In typical Mulholland fashion it has brought people together. The hill has a way of doing that. It's part of the mystery which is still alive today. Different walk's of life, different backgrounds, strangers brought together who share a common bond. In the beginning this thread was heavy on disambiguation but look what it has grown into? Look how far it has reached across the globe. I have met some great talented people here and consider you friends.

We even have Mulholland underwear now! Now that's amazing!
And we all owe this round to Derek..
Take a bow sir...
I raise my glass to you....

[TomPabst]

Hi Guys,

Let's see if I can figure out how to do this?

Here's a link to the video of the first on-track sessions on the RIR simulation track:

http://pabst-racing.com/downloads/rir.wmv

I will come back in here after this post and test to make sure the video streams from my website.

Your options to view this video:

(1) Do a normal left-mouse-click and the video should stream off PR.com directly to your computer (assuming you have Windows Media Player selected as the program to run "dot"wmv video files). If you have a broadband Internet connection this should work fine.

(2) If you have a slow connection, you might want to just download the movie to your computer, then play it once that is completed. To download this movie instead of play it via streaming video, just right-mouse-click the URL and choose "Save Target as" - then remember what folder you saved it to if not your desktop. Once downloaded to your computer, you can just click-play it as you normally would any video file on your system. You also need Windows Media Player installed on it.....but that's by default on most WinXP and Vista systems.

Please keep in mind this is a very early beta version of the track. The track surface itself, as well as a few buildings and all of the people and vehicle files are not final (location or content).....they are just placeholders at the moment. I don't want to do all that work and then find out the track configuration is off somewhere important. That's where Ron Cortez and Bruce Griggs come in as I've asked them to run a couple hundred laps on this test track (working on a car set up.....or trying to beat my lap times or something) as that should be sufficient to jar loose all of their memory cells on driving race cars at Riverside!

When they give me the green light.....I'll move on to finish the track (about 150 hours or so.......is my guestimation).

But I wanted you guys to see something that moves.....instead of just static screenshots........so I slammed out this little video for you. It's fairly low resolution (780x420x16bit...I think).....so the colors and textures aren't as crisp as they are on the simulated track version which runs at 1600x1200x32bit.....almost a Kodak photo at 70 frames per second!

It absolutely makes me grin from ear-to-ear to run laps on this track. Hope it makes you do the same to view the video of it?

Regards,

Tom Pabst

[TomPabst]

Okay..........the link works fine and the video streamed to my system easily. It took about 7 seconds to load the cache and playback never beat the cache-download rate (meaning the video played continuously).

Enjoy,

Tom Pabst

[SCWDP911]

Originally Posted by village idiot

I'm still trying to find the movie that had Harry Hamlin in a 356 Cab and Dennis Hopper in an old 'Vette.

Yeah, I was telling someone about this movie the other day. That was a cool movie... Loved those 356's in that film...

[SCWDP911]

Originally Posted by lfot

Went ahead and did it anyway... in white and black.
MIRRC stuff

These are very cool Derek! Man, I wish I could be out there to get one without being a poser. Very nice work!

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by TomPabst

Hi Guys,
Tom Pabst

Tom
Ron will have some more photos in his email waiting for you. Found some with buildings for reference and some other great RIR artifacts.

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by TomPabst

Okay..........the link works fine and the video streamed to my system easily. It took about 7 seconds to load the cache and playback never beat the cache-download rate (meaning the video played continuously).

Enjoy,

Tom Pabst

That was tremendous Tom. Now we need you to build a Mulholland simulator.

As Howard Cosell used to say "I'm just telling it like it is"

[Banning]

Originally Posted by TomPabst

Okay..........the link works fine and the video streamed to my system easily. It took about 7 seconds to load the cache and playback never beat the cache-download rate (meaning the video played continuously).

Enjoy,

Tom Pabst

I woke up this morning and went to your link and Wow! RIR is reborn, virtually.
AWESOME is not enough to describe the work you have done.
Way to go Tom! Thanks again.

[Banning]

Last night the ACR had a get-together party and a 50 year birthday party for some of it's members. Seven of the original nine ACR members attended. Here are three of them, from left to right are Dave Gainey, John Hall, and Mark Mitchell.





On the back of the shirts that were made to celebrate the evening, ACR's popular saying, "Mul Can Be Hairy" was imprinted. It was a fantastic evening with all kinds of radical stories of Mulholland being told. I heard things that were new to me, some were incredible tales. These stories made people laugh so hard it was rediculous. They will have to be added to the book. I wish that I could have taped the evening and posted it here for all to see. We will work on that later, it would be fun for all to see and hear.

[lfot]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hail

That was tremendous Tom. Now we need you to build a Mulholland simulator.

As Howard Cosell used to say "I'm just telling it like it is"

+1

[lfot]

Saw this today at Supercar Sunday, and I thought of Charlie.



and on another note...

Does anyone know the story with this? Is it real, but all modded? Or some sort of authorized replica?

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by lfot

Saw this today at Supercar Sunday, and I thought of Charlie.



and on another note...

Does anyone know the story with this? Is it real, but all modded? Or some sort of authorized replica?

The VIN placard looks like a real GT40. Original street going versions all had a "P" (for production) after the 40 model designation. The car above is tagged as a Mark 1B so it would be a car built by Abbey Panels (a very early car).

Here is where someone made a mistake indicating it is actually a replica.
Abbey was in Coventry not Slough. The other thing is in the VIN sequence NZ was not used in original GT's for race or production cars. NZ is probably the country of origin where the replica was manufactured.

The Slough address is where Eric Broadley of Lola cars was located when they moved the original Lola factory in 1963. Ford established a new subsidiary under the direction of John Wyer, Ford Advanced Vehicles Ltd to manage the GT40 project. The first GT40 chassis was built by Abbey Panels of Coventry, remainder in Slough. The body panels were made by Advanced Moldings LTD. Later to bring the program more under Ford's control the SVO Operations was sold to John Wyer and a redesign of the GT took place (hench MKIII) which was produced by Kar Kraft (Fords Styling Studio) under an infamous guy named Ed Hull.

Real or not I would gladly take it off the owners hands.

[Zeke]

Tom, that was fantastic! I never drove the long track and NASCAR would have gone straight from T 6 to T 8 down a little short chute (which I never drove either). You can see 7 A off to the right as the cars head from T 7 to T 8. That T 7, 7 A business was tricky as the track camber changed not the way you'd like it to. I spun my kart there a couple of times even given the vast amount or track surface available to something less than 4' wide. Going over the hump to 7 was always a thrill. The flagman was your friend!

[TomPabst]

Banning........

What does "ACR" stand for. The two guys on either end in the first photo look really familiar to me. I am sure I know them but can't place them as to where I know them from?

Tom Pabst

[TomPabst]

Hi Milt....

Glad you liked the video. Believe me.....you'd love driving in the simulator that made it.

I am aware of the different track configurations used at RIR and that NASCAR used it's own version with the cut-over from T6 to T8 directly. For technical reasons, I have to build this sim track in it's longest version first, then remove sections of it to make the others. The base sim I'm using to playback the track so I can view my work as it progresses is a NASCAR sim and those cars are the only ones that will run in it. Hence, I made the video using the 1988 NASCAR car set......same as the one on YouTube showing several sections of the ESPN NASCAR race in 1988.

Mulholland Drive Simulation?
It's theoretically possible to do this. The 3D world program I use requires the track surface to be connected in a loop, but I've heard of people making a drag strip simulation where they tie the two ends together with a straight access road. They set the lap timer to only measure the 1/4 of the drag strip! So, if we took say a 3 mile section of Mulholland (selecting what 3 miles to use would be something you guys would have to do).....and we had adequate photos....I could make a straight access road on the side to connect the two ends. I'm certain that would work. -TP

[lfot]

Originally Posted by TomPabst

Hi Milt....

Glad you liked the video. Believe me.....you'd love driving in the simulator that made it.

I am aware of the different track configurations used at RIR and that NASCAR used it's own version with the cut-over from T6 to T8 directly. For technical reasons, I have to build this sim track in it's longest version first, then remove sections of it to make the others. The base sim I'm using to playback the track so I can view my work as it progresses is a NASCAR sim and those cars are the only ones that will run in it. Hence, I made the video using the 1988 NASCAR car set......same as the one on YouTube showing several sections of the ESPN NASCAR race in 1988.

Mulholland Drive Simulation?
It's theoretically possible to do this. The 3D world program I use requires the track surface to be connected in a loop, but I've heard of people making a drag strip simulation where they tie the two ends together with a straight access road. They set the lap timer to only measure the 1/4 of the drag strip! So, if we took say a 3 mile section of Mulholland (selecting what 3 miles to use would be something you guys would have to do).....and we had adequate photos....I could make a straight access road on the side to connect the two ends. I'm certain that would work. -TP

Maybe try the Mulholland track in a way you could run one way then simulate going back the opposite direction on the same road. Maybe a loop in that respect.

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by TomPabst

Hi Milt....

Glad you liked the video. Believe me.....you'd love driving in the simulator that made it.

I am aware of the different track configurations used at RIR and that NASCAR used it's own version with the cut-over from T6 to T8 directly. For technical reasons, I have to build this sim track in it's longest version first, then remove sections of it to make the others. The base sim I'm using to playback the track so I can view my work as it progresses is a NASCAR sim and those cars are the only ones that will run in it. Hence, I made the video using the 1988 NASCAR car set......same as the one on YouTube showing several sections of the ESPN NASCAR race in 1988.

Mulholland Drive Simulation?
It's theoretically possible to do this. The 3D world program I use requires the track surface to be connected in a loop, but I've heard of people making a drag strip simulation where they tie the two ends together with a straight access road. They set the lap timer to only measure the 1/4 of the drag strip! So, if we took say a 3 mile section of Mulholland (selecting what 3 miles to use would be something you guys would have to do).....and we had adequate photos....I could make a straight access road on the side to connect the two ends. I'm certain that would work. -TP

With all the photos that have been taken I am 100% sure we could have both a "then and now" simulation of Mulholland. The loopback (or access road) would have to be the old backdoor route from Bowmont to Skyline around the backside of the radio tower. This would add a great deal of realism since it was blocked off a long time ago and few actually remember it ever being open road.
It would be the "course" everyone knows from Grandstand to Skyline.

This intrigues me as I am ever impressed with Tom's RIR c.g. work.

[lfot]

Ok, so with this Mulholland simulation in mind...

Anybody know how to get a hold of the developers of Gran Turismo 5 or Forza Motorsport 2 for the sake of a Mulholland track on the PS3 and/or Xbox?

Tom, do you have any "ins" in this crowd?

It's a dream.

[Banning]

Originally Posted by TomPabst

Banning........

What does "ACR" stand for. The two guys on either end in the first photo look really familiar to me. I am sure I know them but can't place them as to where I know them from?

Tom Pabst

ACR stands for Associated Canyon Racers. You might know Mark on the right, he has raced in many different kinds of events.