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Okay guys
So if you want an extended Mulholland "experience" without the red and blues in your mirrors, locals angry with you, check out the Targa Baja California

www.targacalifornia.com that takes place November 1st thru November 4th. On the other side of the border you will be able to legally play for a couple days. We have approval from the governing bodies with the Federales doing escort duties on some of the roads.
We have picked some great roads the are just incredible for sports car touring.
This year, going back to my "hill" roots, we have added a night time run Friday , through the mountains to a beach side resort for dinner

We have been doing this for years and its just too much fun

Check it out



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Jeez Dave, I am so bummed, I am in the UK till 11/11. Tell the Alpina Niki Lauda sends his best till next year or thanksgiving.
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Gents,
Firstly, thanks for such an amazing thread, it's taken me three weeks to get through and I've loved every minute!
I grew up in the 70s in the UK on a diet of CHIPS, Fall Guy and the rest. To read about the real history is fascinating thanks!
The point of my first post is also to point out Rod Emorys Instagram feed. He seems to have found a 356 with Mulholland provenance, anyone got any input?
Thanks again...
Phil
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What a complete dildo.
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Going around blind curves on the wrong side of the road, in traffic; complete dildo.
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Going around blind curves on the wrong side of the road, in traffic; complete dildo.
Not to mention in broad daylight during crowded conditions.
Please don't try this yourselves, we have enough Maniacs on Mulholland.
I can see and hear them out there every day from my home.

What's really unfortunate is that he's not even going that fast.
He should be able to stay in his own lane at those speeds.
This is a good handling automobile...in the right hands.

It may not be a Porsche (too bad), but I think we can all agree that it performs.
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Porsche! There is No Substitute!
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Gents,
Firstly, thanks for such an amazing thread, it's taken me three weeks to get through and I've loved every minute!
I grew up in the 70s in the UK on a diet of CHIPS, Fall Guy and the rest. To read about the real history is fascinating thanks!
The point of my first post is also to point out Rod Emorys Instagram feed. He seems to have found a 356 with Mulholland provenance, anyone got any input?
Thanks again...
Phil
Maybe he bought my Father's 1963 B 356 S engine car!
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My thought on crossing the centerline. There is a fine line to when and where you apex the whole road. I personally don't want to kill any civilians ever, but it isn't unusual for that to be done. I personally only fault the truly dangerous, and reckless ones. At least if you do it, late apex please-- so you have a wider field of view entering, and can pick up the headlights coming, and dive back to the inside or outside sooner, depending on the direction you were going!!!!!

Mulholland was always hairy, as no one ever closed the road. At our local hang out (Turnbull Canyon), we actually would close the road, and everyone had walkie talkies. Since half the time, we couldn't get good reception, if we squawked the send button a whole bunch of times, then it meant to abort the run. If it was the Police, then we would wait about 5 seconds from the last static burst or attempt at comms and squawk the send again, or keep squawking for everyone to scatter. Usually if the Cops came in on us, we would all scrabble out the end, hopefully where they weren't coming. I only remember one joint attempt by Whittier PD and Los Angeles County Sheriffs to combine for a bust. We also on occasion had bottle rockets in the hands of our sentries. They would pop one from about 3/4- to a mile away meaning the police, and the crowd at the start or finish lines would all start squawking as we dove for the car doors to bail.

The first time I ever went to visit Mulholland, I attempted to be friendly to the locals, and get local knowledge, but they weren't too friendly (you guys weren't friendly )!!!. It seemed like not too many were actually keen on racing, at least with strangers. Obviously undercover cop paranoia syndrome too, existed! Sure they (you guys) loved to buzz the road, and would chase down and buzz the occasional car. I personally think the kids dominated the evenings, and they didn't mix it up too much, with the adults to often. Seemed more tribal, club against club (local bragging rights and ritual) and not real welcoming of outsiders like our group over visiting.

Each time I made the trip, it never seemed like I got the action, I had hoped for. But sure, some damn cool rides were up there.

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My thought on crossing the centerline. There is a fine line to when and where you apex the whole road. I personally don't want to kill any civilians ever, but it isn't unusual for that to be done. I personally only fault the truly dangerous, and reckless ones. At least if you do it, late apex please-- so you have a wider field of view entering, and can pick up the headlights coming, and dive back to the inside or outside sooner, depending on the direction you were going!!!!!

Mulholland was always hairy, as no one ever closed the road. At our local hang out (Turnbull Canyon), we actually would close the road, and everyone had walkie talkies. Since half the time, we couldn't get good reception, if we squawked the send button a whole bunch of times, then it meant to abort the run. If it was the Police, then we would wait about 5 seconds from the last static burst or attempt at comms and squawk the send again, or keep squawking for everyone to scatter. Usually if the Cops came in on us, we would all scrabble out the end, hopefully where they weren't coming. I only remember one joint attempt by Whittier PD and Los Angeles County Sheriffs to combine for a bust. We also on occasion had bottle rockets in the hands of our sentries. They would pop one from about 3/4- to a mile away meaning the police, and the crowd at the start or finish lines would all start squawking as we dove for the car doors to bail.

The first time I ever went to visit Mulholland, I attempted to be friendly to the locals, and get local knowledge, but they weren't too friendly (you guys weren't friendly )!!!. It seemed like not too many were actually keen on racing, at least with stranglers. Obviously undercover cop paranoia syndrome too, existed! Sure they (you guys) loved to buzz the road, and would chase down and buzz the occasional car. I personally think the kids dominated the evenings, and they didn't mix it up too much, with the adults to often. Seemed more tribal, club against club (local bragging rights and ritual) and not real welcoming of outsiders like our group over visiting.

Each time I made the trip, it never seemed like I got the action, I had hoped for. But sure, some damn cool rides were up there.





"The first time I ever went to visit Mulholland, I attempted to be friendly to the locals, and get local knowledge, but they weren't too friendly (you guys weren't friendly "


When Grandstands was 2 and 3 cars deep all away across the lot people were friendly. When we could not even pull into Grandstands due to the sardine can claustrophobic like festivities we went to Bowmont and sat on the hill. People were friendly. Then Carl's and lined the shoulder, when that was packed we went to Carl's Junior and Deadmans and parked in the dirt. People were friendly.

It's not that people weren't friendly, they became very cautious. At the late late stage around 1980 people just didn't park much anymore. Being stopped made you a sitting duck for trouble. No parking dusk til dawn signs were going up. Gates installed at Bowmont in 84. Parking and socializing was a trap, nowhere to run when the cops rolled up on you.

Try explaining your way out of a ticket that starts with your car being familiar from a prior visual observation that you didn't get caught. It usually begins with a front license plate inspection, lighting check, exhaust sound check and progresses into the more serious VC offenses. In the late 70's and early eighties some black and white taxi cabs carried quasi - handheld decibel meters. Once you fail the unwritten probable cause clause it promptly moves on to other discretionary interpretations and safety violations just for humiliation alone.

The resulting roadside consultation with a smile and yellow invitation to make a donation along with a follow up office visit to the Marshalls office to get those pesky minor violations signed off was enough for one nights fun. If you had ever been pulled over and been roughed up, pushed up against a car and a billy club stuck in your gut you got off easy.

A bad night meant they impounded and towed your car to Fox or Archers Tow. It would get worse because that nice Pioneer Supertuner radio you bought at Leos Stereo was usually missing when you went to bail your car out.

A really bad day or night was when you got arrested.

Stay moving and busy was a safe bet. Don't stop unless you run out of gas.

I honestly can say the Mulholland civilians are some of friendliest folks I have ever met in my life. Not only that they all have a fantastic sense of humor and unique understanding of what can go wrong on Mulholland Drive. We have cowbell.

I mean hey these are the guys that back when wore masks, raced Go-Karts, skateboards, Rancheros, Pintos, and Station Wagons on Mulholland and sometimes on the rare occasion actually became a real live Mulholland airborne pilot. Of course those vehicles were a one time use affair. Victor regularly wore flame proof moccasins while he was racing around the hill.

Now we wave at the police like mothers dropping off the kids at elementary school and sometimes the mothers wave back at us. If that's not friendly community relations I don't know what is? Now Chris brings out his laptop and we watch movies on the big screen on Mul. We need more lawn chairs. Its quite the spectacle.

Radu even drove a racing seat on Mulholland one night. Just the seat -no car. No one could catch him.

Frank is the only one anyone un-friended. He crashed his car and is now driving a Station Wagon too.

(for sarcasm and humor only)
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When I visited, it was in the latter days of 1977 onward (old clapped out 1967 Camaro, that might have been an actual Z-28 (at least that is what the guy I sold it to claims it is). Probably the last racing days was when I came up from Long Beach and even a time or two from San Diego while stationed in the Navy 81/82 having the V-8 Porsche 914 initially and then in 1982 (still in the military) I bought the 1963/64 Bastard flared Corvette Race car. That was a full blown race car, and very politically incorrect for even that crowd, that I remember encountering up there. As I did down on the Boulevards (Van Nuys and Whittier), I went straight at a few guys, trying to gamble for cash for races and got no takers. But I bet if I had run across some of you (the real racers), I would have had a few take me up on a run or two.

I definitely knew to stay mobile also. We usually would take a pretty non-descript car, and run it back and forth, and get a feel or pulse for the evenings, Political environment/climate, for that night on the road (see if the Police were active, what level of traffic, who we were seeing looking obvious, that they were up there for that, etc.). We did not turn into the big turnouts really, when I had the most potent cars up there, as I do remember the signs posted, and no one was parked there, like in the earlier days of my occasional visits. Therefore we would track someone down off of the hill, hoping to intercept down like at a Gas Station stop or food place. Any races I did arrange, where done off of the hill or while parked down on Van Nuys (mostly down there we were approached mainly for drag racing). I when I visited remember parking like down off of Laurel or Coldwater and waiting parked, for like a group of Capri's or 510 Datsuns, or the occasional Porsche 911 Turbo or something to follow and pick on or trail to where the action might be. Generally if I started dogging their tail, they would kind of wave me around, and then see if they could keep up. That led to a few drive by conversations, after turning off and parking somewhere. A few times, you locals warned us, that the Police were heavy, and not advised to play. We thank you for those heads ups!!!!!

I actually can be very social and complementary of someone's car, very knowledgeable on their Datsun, Porsche mods, even after dusting them off or when casually meeting to measure one another. I usually get along with all car people, except on modern forums. I do think you guys knew instantly who were local, and tended to be semi-leery of visitors. Also maybe we were measured as a potential bad crowd, not having local knowledge and the pulse to be caught hanging out with (our stupidity of boldly being non-covert, would bring the Cops down on you guys). I got pulled over more than a few times. I think my military ID got me out of a number of fix it or exhibition of speed tickets. They usually at 22 years old, thought it must be my Father's car or someone else's car. I told one Officer, I bought it with my Military enlistment bonus. Also It might have been the military haircut to, that caused you guys to potentially think we might be cops.

A few times, we had someone from our group actually drop us off on foot, on the course, where we sat for a while, leaving the cars parked down the hill, with our girlfriends watching them, socializing with each other or eating/drinking, while we were up there doing recon, seeing if there was any action going back and forth. I remember planting the butt on a few guardrails, and trying to wave down some action. We even started taking some checkered flags up there around 1983, and were waving them around at cars, as cars we thought were worthy, were passing (Trying to solicit some attention). We waved them once at a Police car, and he stopped and backed up to tell us to disperse. He went up and U-turned and then sat kind of watching us, so we started walking eastward, to get picked back up, at the time we arranged with our ride. We even had Uber etiquette in play, as our ride would pass up to get the signal that everything was Ok to stop and have us load up after that Police Officer encounter (Pass us and then U-turn, making sure it was Ok to Chinese fire drill back into the car).

Additionally we would drive up and down all of the side streets, long driveways in some places trying to find locals. And some nights, we got skunked. I would say my total for visits in the clandestine hours of the nights, totaled slightly less than 20 trips. We combined those with some Van Nuys cruising, because we had our own local hang out, where we were the big shots over in Hacienda Heights & Whittier Hills and Boulevard. Naturally we had to support our own local Law Enforcement. We might have also gotten up there also, after your bed times!!!!!

So I assume you have a Skateboarding course record too?????

(For Sarcasm and Humor only!!!! Too!!!!).

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