Why are Engineers so arrogant?

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by IROC

Jeff - did you ever work with a guy named Brad Henriksen? I worked with him in HSV but he told me once he was in AOG in Everett.

I don't remember him, but then again, we have a lot of folks who pass through AOG. Most don't stick around very long, for various reasons - usually related to the travel, hours, and that kind of thing. It's not for everyone. Sounds glamorous at first, but when the reality of months away from home in some of the world's true "garden spots" (Third World sheetholes where they can't fix their own damn airplanes) sinks in, many leave for something else.

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap

Jeff gets to work in both worlds, reality (get a bigger hammer) and theory (might want to re-run those calculations again), in mud puddles and sniper fire and get bit by bugs in Japan swelling his ring finger the size of a german brawt.

They never did figure out what bit me, and I still can't get the ring back on that finger...

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I am still waiting for this question that Hugh asked to be answered. I suspect it will be a long wait.

I asked as well, and laid out what I do as a challenge for him to do the same. Guaranteed, it ain't gonna happen.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

For someone that I'm yet to see do anything but troll, I suspect so.

I suspect you are right. Fortunately, we won't have to wait for an answer from the OP; Rusty Heap has provided us with what is likely his career path:

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap

I'm just happy when at a fast food place El-retardo Employee gets my order right by pushing the color food item photos on the cash register. But we need all sectors of the workplace from top to bottom, I'm just glad I'm not a bottom feeder with both teeth making minimum wage.

[AFC-911]

All I know is that Engineering draws the oddest people.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by AFC-911

All I know is that Engineering draws the oddest people.

That was never really in question.

[Rusty Heap]

Captain Ahab,

very well said, and I'm re-inserting a quote I heard from a very humble sourse:



"As an engineer, I don't class myself as being an expert as the more I know the more I know I don't know but I would say I know more than most people, even the people that think they know more. I am far from being clever but I am good at what I do and tend to look at stuff from a different perspective than other people I work with."


As an engineer myself, we're all there to make our management happy. Cost, Quality, Schedule (you can only pick two out of those 3)

I provide solution A, solution B, and as a fall back, and solution C as just a wild idea.

"Dear Brain Dead Political Posturing Management dood.......... Mr Boss in the big chair feeding me salary growth" , YOU decide the final solution, as he's sitting in the big chair, if the "the chart" ain't happy, nobodies happy.

I just make things work. I've seen MILLIONS of dollars ($5-6 mil) wasted on a 747 moving line (yes at an 1/4" an hour) yawn, , that all revolved around a Subaru rear differential that someone dumpster dived and found in their garage...............moonshine shops have their place, defining specification control documents, firm requirements, and exit criteria are a must. Otherwise you're just pissssssing money away while the Lean 5S circus is in town for a couple months, then they up-pitch their tent and move on to the next bulging budget............all with good intentions, but then a turd is left in someone's yard to be shoveled up and tossed.


Simple. Define Requirements. Meet those requirements. Otherwise you're just whacking off to a Farrah Faucet poster that ain't going to happen in real life.

There is Farmer engineering and that has it's place...........on a farm............in industry, those silly little things called state and federal laws, NEC, UL, NFPA, Building codes, ASME, are why engineers, well, went to school and can do math instead of using a guy that once installed a car stereo in high school using scotch tape on wiring to do your multi million dollar design and install.


Happy to provide Farrah Fawcett images to the poser engineers:


https://www.google.com/search?q=Farrah+Fawcett+images&hl=en&qscrl=1&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS416US416&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=YlTQUpjTMc3DoASx0oGgCg&ved=0CCkQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=930

[onewhippedpuppy]

If you want entertainment, just look up "engineers" on Google images. Lots of beautiful people in hard hats and collared shirts pointing at things.



When in reality, this is much closer to the truth.

[gearya]

Originally Posted by MotoSook

I suppose we proved the OP's point...we arrogantly dismissed his claims and went about having out own brand of fun.

Best answer.

[gearya]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

you seem awful proud of yourself.

What makes you think that? I just asked a question.

[aschen]

Originally Posted by gearya

What makes you think that? I just asked a question.

You didn't ask a question in good spirit.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by aschen

You didn't ask a question in good spirit.

And he has ignored several requests to answer THE question.

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

If you want entertainment, just look up "engineers" on Google images. Lots of beautiful people in hard hats and collared shirts pointing at things.

When I was working in construction and saw the architect and engineers pulling up to the job site I would turn to the crew and say "here come the pointers".

[Buckterrier]

Originally Posted by Danimal16

you really don't understand engineering..

I may not but apparently more than you

Awesome job Jeff!

[jcommin]

I have read all 9 pages of this and I agree with Hugh. I have a BSME form U of IL and my skills have taken me beyond my days on a drafting board, I'm not about to justify my skills, ability and successes to anyone from the originator of the post or anyone else who has commented . Who are you to judge me! I could but won't judge anyone's skill sets or abilities.

Do any of you really want to grade your skills or education on this board? Nine pages of junk on a shotgun post, You are sheep to just reply! Sorry, I took the bait too!

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by Buckterrier

I may not but apparently more than you

Awesome job Jeff!

I doubt it. You do not take into scale cost and schedule. Remember if you can't pay for it or it is late, it is useless.

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by jcommin

I have read all 9 pages of this and I agree with Hugh. I have a BSME form U of IL and my skills have taken me beyond my days on a drafting board, I'm not about to justify my skills, ability and successes to anyone from the originator of the post or anyone else who has commented . Who are you to judge me! I could but won't judge anyone's skill sets or abilities.

Do any of you really want to grade your skills or education on this board? Nine pages of junk on a shotgun post, You are sheep to just reply! Sorry, I took the bait too!

But it was fun.

[TimT]

I have read all 9 pages of this and I agree with Hugh. I have a BSME form U of IL and my skills have taken me beyond my days on a drafting board, I'm not about to justify my skills, ability and successes to anyone from the originator of the post or anyone else who has commented . Who are you to judge me! I could but won't judge anyone's skill sets or abilities.

Do any of you really want to grade your skills or education on this board? Nine pages of junk on a shotgun post, You are sheep to just reply! Sorry, I took the bait too!

Did you put your pocket protector in wrong? or are you just having a bad day??

I'm not about to justify my skills, ability and successes to anyone from the originator of the post or anyone else who has commented .

Yet you did just that...

If you tell someone at a social gathering that you are an Engineer... its often followed by a deer in headlights look...and then diminishing small talk...

My response to the trolls post was to refute "its just a 4 year degree"

The mindset and training to become an Engineer starts way before you get to High School and University...

re-arranging the HO railroad.... arranging new slot car layouts..... modifying your Rupp Roadster...Making a Schwinn a Chopper...

In Kindertgarden... building he best wall of blocks...

[afterburn 549]

Sammy and several others have helped me in my endeavors several times here ..
Cant fault these guys..
and ... I so do appreciate the help!
(sorry cant remember everyone's name to hand out the credits )

[AFC-911]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

That was never really in question.

I'm just saying engineers come across as weird to normal people. It may be arrogance or it may just be their social awkwardness.

Or maybe, they just know that no one wants to listen their gobbledygook nonsense.

[afterburn 549]

I guess one has to appreciate numbers....they have a language all their own.
I am teased by numbers....infatuated....But i do not know their alphabet

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

I guess one has to appreciate numbers....they have a language all their own.
I am teased by numbers....infatuated....But i do not know their alphabet

Many times I have met someone and I realize that 5 minutes after the conversation I don't remember their name. Or I will see someone so often that I don't use their name and I find I can't remember it, but they know mine... It is rather frustrating. For some reason numbers and theories seem to stick right away. It is weird and I freely admit it. My only explanation is that certain numbers like 6 and 4 are repeated in the structure of the world (4 bonds in many molecules/covalent unit cells, 6 degrees of freedom, 6 bonds in carbon, the excellent balance of flat and inline 6 cylinder engines ). So names seem somewhat random to my messed-up mind.

[Laneco]

Ok I'm not sure if this has been posted as yet. This is the best and most accurate description of the engineer.

The Knack (Dilbert) (vosta vostfr) - YouTube

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