I make Parallel Flow Micro-Channel Condensers for 911's front and rear

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by speedman

I have been following this tread and hoping to get some information on the condensors. Can anyone answer the following questions:
1) Does this condensor remove more heat than one from a company like Rennaire or Griffith's
2) Is the freon flow cooler when it leaves this condensor than one sold by other companies
3) If the answer is yes to either above question then how much more effiecent is this condensor
4) How much will the extra heat rejection cost

I want to make the AC in my 79 as effiecent as possible and if these condensors are going to do that I would like purchase them.

Hello Rick T,

Note: because my PFC’s are so new for the 911 A/C market I am rather picky and controlling at this time who and/or how I will sell to anyone for several reasons, I am carefully following my patent attorney’s advice related to any sales at this time; but would consider you as a possible buyer if your interest is serious and I also get Pelican’s approval because they are not listed here yet, because I have only sold through Stokes Automotive Porsche in Ft. Lauderdale; however this is about to change so if you are truly serious you can send me a private message here with your telephone number and I will call you, or you can call me in Fort Lauderdale @ (954) 599-5235 and we can discuss it and your needs.


I am going to confine my reply to your questions to only my current production OF HIGH TECH PFC’s designed specifically for early model 911’s that will fit in your Porsche 911 OEM front pan and rear deck lid condenser placement areas!

My answer to questions One and Two: IS Emphatically YES !!!

My answer to question Three: IS FOR MY PFC’S, (conservatively) approximately someplace between 25-33 Percent plus more efficient & higher percentage of PFC heat dump FROM THE COMPRESSED GASES!

My answer to question Four: I am not sure what you mean exactly with your question four??? My guess, If you mean how much do my front and rear PFC’s cost, I have recently posted here what the cost will be when I start publicly listing them for sale and selling them here at Pelican Parts for my front and rear PFC condensers.

Note: FYI My PFC’s will require new mounting holes then your OEM condensers, the few new secure mounting holes which are simple to install in only a few minutes; also you may have to slightly modify your hose to condenser connection ends if you demand to use your OEM hoses.

My front and rear PFC’s were specifically designed to take full advantage to every square millimeter possible space AREA available in the early model Porsche 911 OEM body condenser areas and fit much better and tighter then Behr OEM or any other after-market condenser units regardless of heat exchanger technologies used.

Regarding “you want to make your 911 as cold as possible”, let’s say in the LOW 30’s F. in high ambient temps lets say @95 F and getting just above freezing air vent temps is what you want and can be easily achieved using R-134A; but my PFC’s are only one part of the equation to make as cold as possible and there are several simple “TIPS & TRICKS” YOU WILL HAVE TO DO, and I would personally be more than happy to help you with giving you all the information you will want or need about any aspect of YOUR A/C SYSTEM to make it extremely cold!

But after saying this, the most important aspect in my opinion to make cold will be changing your A/C condensers to my HITECH PFC’s, because they have proven to completely overcome the Porsche factory 911 body A/C design flaw of not having enough condenser surface area room using older condenser technologies to allow for proper/sufficient compressed a/c refrigerant gas condensation coming from the compressor when placed in the original early 911 OEM front and rear placement spaces

Note I have been busy on other projects since completing my 911 front and rear PFC matched set and testing; I have PFC new prototypes for 911 fender and side bumper mounting and for 930’s, etc., but I am not making them available publically at this time as they are not fully tested yet, and furthermore for your, I assume stock 911 and where you live in Indiana I don’t think you need any of my new designs to make your 911 as cold as possible!

Regards

Reid

[speedman]

Thank you for the information. I know that your condensers is but one piece of a bigger AC puzzle, but without a solid cost number it is hard to determine if the extra efficiency is worth the cost. I would like to have the most efficient AC system possible with the lowest operating pressure so it is not a burden on the motor when running. I will call you to discuss.

[Joeaksa]

Hey Speed,

If you get a price (I tried for months) please let the rest of us know. As well trying to get a part out of Reid can be interesting.... hope you have better luck than the rest of us did.

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by speedman

Thank you for the information. I know that your condensers is but one piece of a bigger AC puzzle, but without a solid cost number it is hard to determine if the extra efficiency is worth the cost. I would like to have the most efficient AC system possible with the lowest operating pressure so it is not a burden on the motor when running. I will call you to discuss.

Rick,

If you want to get good product and good service at a reasonable price in a reasonable time frame, call Griffiths.

If one or more of the above is not important to you, roll the dice with Reid.

[KelogGes]

“Information Posted here IS ON page 28 @ 06-09-2012, 12:48 PM”

I have designed a superb performance and extremely efficient 911 custom made parallel flow micro-channel condenser using state of the art technologies!


I am proud of what I have created and I strongly believe my PF’s are the best solution in the world for the owners of early model Porsche 911 A/C design condenser problem at this point in time, and I believe that in most owner climate situations in normal ambient temperatures all that is needed for excellent 911 a/c system cooling temps is only a front and rear PFC using state of the art technologies!

For a year here I have kept anything to do with the business of selling my PFC’s here out of any discussions and have been only discussing my progress with what I have designed!

I AM NOT AN AUTOMOTIVE AIR CONDITIONING COMPANY!!! I am the only person I know in the world who actually personally makes their own condensers!
There is no competitor that sells 911 condensers to my knowledge that does not have someone else make what they sell themself

I am only a simple marine engineer with what I believe and know is a much better new A/C idea, that has carefully developed designed engineered & very successfully tested a new technology type of condensers specifically designed for early model 911s.

I have yet to offer anything for sale at Pelican Parts or the general public and have only made my PFC’s locally available through Stokes Automotive in Fort Lauderdale and have more test demonstrations coming

I am not interested in mass sales! I want a one on one relationship with anyone who wants what I make, and I am not sure this can be done with Pelican parts?
There are several a/c system installation variables for the different early model 911s and my PFC’s will fit into them all with some minor installation adjustments.

Recently there have been several questions put to me here that Specifically relate to The Business OF Selling by a few people here who have no intension of buying anything and I am going to ignore these questions at this time and only answer what I think is appropriate to say!

The Cost for my matched set of PFC’s which also includes my custom made a/c filter in a matched PFC set configuration only, will be $350.00 for the front clip PFC and $450.00 the rear deck lid contour PFC for a total price of $850.00, plus shipping and insurance costs by either FedEx or UPS, and comes with a one year limited warranty.

Now that I have finally publically stated A FIRM PRICE here for my PFC’s I expect most people to seek other solutions, I know what I have after a lot of testing over the last year and I know what it can do!

FYI: If someone decides to buy a matched set of my PFC’s which includes a front PFC and contour rear deck lid I PFC and One custom made a/c system filter, I will offer a restricted 7 day money back guarantee if someone decides to return during the 7 day restricted period of time, and they will only be accepted back for refund less any shipping charges if there are absolutely no damage whatsoever!

I am realist what I have designed is not for everyone; IF I don’t have any sales from the users here at Pelican it’s OK with me, I have local sales on a one by one basis to happy clients.

I am not interested in anonymously just selling parts from a catalog to the masses

I only want happy customers! Therefore I want to personally interact with every single one of clients on a personal basis; to make sure they have a successful installation of my PFC’s on their particular 911!!!

Because I sincerely care about the satisfaction to any customer of anything I make; I will personally spend as much time as necessary assisting them in any way possible and furthermore directly answering any questions they may have before during and after installation , and also giving them excellent installation advice and assist their professionally qualified a/c installers do a proper job installing my PFC’s. As I am only supplying PF condensers and a filter that are basically simple to install and I have no control over the condition of their other a/c system components or other needs their 911 a/c system may have it will be the responsibility of the 911 owner to consult a local qualified a/c shop to assist them with the proper installation of my PFC’s, however again I will be extremely interested more than happy to help their local a/c repair shop in every way possible to help insure my PFC’s are installed to Porsche’s factory high standards to make their 911 a/c system cold

If you’re seriously interested in what I have created as an excellent solution to make your 911 cold let me know!

To the noise makers here this is "MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS"

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

If you’re seriously interested in what I have created as an excellent solution to make your 911 cold let me know!

To the noise makers here this is "MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS"

Reid,

One consumers answer to your post above. Part of the problem is that you are an engineer and not a salesman.

You are offering what very well may be a very nice product but you have absolutely NO track record to back it up. I tried to help you with this months/a year ago and still never could get anything out of you on it.

You need several "beta testers" out there. Get your product out to several cars in various parts of the country (LA, Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Louisiana and Florida... the really hot parts of the country) and help them get it working on their cars. Once they report back to you AND Pelican, you have the results that "My product works" and you can then take it to someone to distribute it. Your testing is fine, but you need people "out in the field" reporting back to everyone that "it really works, works well and everyone needs something like this!" to let the general public know the results.

Right now you are just flapping your wings in the air and with no solid results from the really hot parts of the country, no one with any $$ is going to pay a penny for a new, untested product.

Just my 2c worth but guessing that its pretty close...

Joe A

[KelogGes]

you have no idea what this is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why dont you wait to find out DUH !

[Joeaksa]

Reid,

You NEED a product for either sale or test.

Posting stuff like the above is not doing you any good until you have something to TEST or SELL people!

Joe A

[KelogGes]

[KelogGes]

[KelogGes]

You have no idea yet what this is so wait until you know before you comment

[KelogGes]

This 911’s new design 30F degree A/C System @ 80F Ambient now has another of my new engineering inventions in it that works superbly ICE COLD
Besides my custom engineered PFC’s

The a/c system “gets 30F temps even with the rear deck lid wide open”, and no air going/passing through the rear deck lid PFC and tested with it open without the engine cooling fan sucking any air THROUGH THE REAR CONDENSER

(think about that!)

Therefore there is no normal rear deck lid condenser a/c heat dump into the engine compartment and therefore no a/c rise in oil temp; look at the picture of the engine gauges and notice the RPM GUAGE, OIL TEMP GUAGE, and interior AIR VENT DIGITAL GUAGE!

The Front PFC alone from the 2 stock OEM placement areas PFC’s on this 911 for this test is the only ONE dumping HIGH condenser A/C HEAT using only one small front condenser fan on the Front PFC

I am busy and it’s going to take me a few days to write this up

Warning if people insist on filling this channel with more BS noise before I write this I won’t post anything further and you can sit in the dark forever

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

You have no idea yet what this is so wait until you know before you comment

Only 617 posts into this thread, and STILL no product into the hands of a regular Pelican.

And hell, if you can't match the price of wwest's solution, everyone will just run the decklid fans and call it done. Talk about easy installation!

[kuehl]

Originally Posted by SilberUrS6

Only 617 posts into this thread, and STILL no product into the hands of a regular Pelican.

And hell, if you can't match the price of wwest's solution, everyone will just run the decklid fans and call it done. Talk about easy installation!

By the way, where is Wildman West?
I kinda miss the
'thinkin out-of-the-box stuff'.

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

Warning if people insist on filling this channel with more BS noise before I write this I won’t post anything further and you can sit in the dark forever

So in other words if we keep asking for product to test or sell, you are going to stop posting?

Either put up or SHUT UP! If you cannot produce something that we can TEST out in the field or sell, why are you wasting our time? I have been trying to be a test mule for you for two years now and you keep posting but never anything to bolt onto the car!

[mossguy]

Originally Posted by kelogges

never mind stay in the dark
you were warned!

Omg! Omg!

[SilberUrS6]

OOOOOoooo, we were WARNED. I feel so disappointed.

Well, never mind. Someday, Reid will actually stop designing stuff, and actually start producing stuff. The question is will any sucker, errr, Pelikaner buy it?

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by mossguy

Omg! Omg!

Beat me by two minutes.

[mossguy]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

So in other words if we keep asking for product to test or sell, you are going to stop posting?

Either put up or SHUT UP! If you cannot produce something that we can TEST out in the field or sell, why are you wasting our time? I have been trying to be a test mule for you for two years now and you keep posting but never anything to bolt onto the car!

Joe, Really. Why do you bother?

[KelogGes]

911 A/C Fender Condensers Are NOW GOING TO BE OBSOLETE

YOU WERE WARNED! NEVER MIND STAY IN THE DARK

Learn about it someplace else ROFL

Been doing just fine in South Florida and other places