Att all people hurt by MotorMeister

[Group77Racing]

Originally Posted by Group77Racing

Hiten, what was your customer number? I questioned your positve rating on Yelp, since then you did correct it, thanks. I was duped into the 3 year scam as well, 16,000 later, JUNK!

Did a compression test today between 75 and 105 psi. It runs worse "rebuilt" now then what I sent them idiots. Won't run below 2000 rpm's, found the Pertronix kit installed improperly and the new Bosch Dist cap was even broken, no nut on the hold-down bracket. What did these clowns do to break a new cap? This motor knocks so LOUD that I can't hear the exhaust sound from the muffler. There are 0 Zero MILES on my engine. Only about 15 minutes on it in 5 minute intervals. Still on my hoist.

Dave Customer 869. Keep raising awareness!

OK, now that I've fixed the Pertronix kit, adjusted the timing and carb mixtures....it still runs like S&!T. I can't tell you guys how loud the internals are on this junk. I can get it idle @ 1600 rpm's now, no lower. Hold the revs at 3000 rpm's and the motor still backfires out the carb's and tailpipe. But don't shut it off, because it won't restart. add 10 more minutes of run time.

WHAT A PILE OF JUNK!

now where did I put that oil dry...

[boogie_man]

Sorry to say my upholstery guy sent his customers 2.7 to them recently. As soon as he told me where is was I told him to get it the heck out of there. He too can't get a hold of anyone, just those sweet, nice girls who keep overlapping thier excuses. He's meeting with his Atty today just to try and get the stuff back. What would be the best way to get that stuff out of there asap, and to verify it's the correct stuff from that engine?? I'm in the bodyshop business too and if we pulled this stuff I've read, the BAR would be all over us !!!! Has anyone delt with the BAR or got a opinion from them on wht they constantly get away with this? Any suggestions are welcome and I'm so sorry you guys went through this, unreal.

[dcjones56]

Originally Posted by boogie_man

Sorry to say my upholstery guy sent his customers 2.7 to them recently. As soon as he told me where is was I told him to get it the heck out of there. He too can't get a hold of anyone, just those sweet, nice girls who keep overlapping thier excuses. He's meeting with his Atty today just to try and get the stuff back. What would be the best way to get that stuff out of there asap, and to verify it's the correct stuff from that engine?? I'm in the bodyshop business too and if we pulled this stuff I've read, the BAR would be all over us !!!! Has anyone delt with the BAR or got a opinion from them on wht they constantly get away with this? Any suggestions are welcome and I'm so sorry you guys went through this, unreal.

Please keep this board informed on what happens. This is about to get interesting as an attorney is getting involved.

[Group77Racing]

Originally Posted by boogie_man

Sorry to say my upholstery guy sent his customers 2.7 to them recently. As soon as he told me where is was I told him to get it the heck out of there. He too can't get a hold of anyone, just those sweet, nice girls who keep overlapping their excuses. He's meeting with his Atty today just to try and get the stuff back. What would be the best way to get that stuff out of there asap, and to verify it's the correct stuff from that engine?? I'm in the bodyshop business too and if we pulled this stuff I've read, the BAR would be all over us !!!! Has anyone dealt with the BAR or got a opinion from them on wht they constantly get away with this? Any suggestions are welcome and I'm so sorry you guys went through this, unreal.

Skip the atty, YOU have to go there in person, call the Downey PD. You'll never get "your" parts back if Jerry tore it down, maybe your case if you recorded the SN#. I never got any of my old parts back. The BAR says to me" your motor looks like the rest of them". Useless IMHO. over 3 years with this circus.

[boogie_man]

He's going there today to attempt to retrieve the motor as he and his atty advised what time his client is to be there to pick-up, was told by girl there that the client "needs to make an appointment to pick up his stuff. The atty replied "we just made an appt with this phone call as my client "will" be there at stated time and if you don't open your doors and return his belongings, he will file a litigation claim TODAY !!!. Update this soon, wished him luck, what a mess.

[yasir]

[dcjones56]

Originally Posted by Group77Racing

Skip the atty, YOU have to go there in person, call the Downey PD. You'll never get "your" parts back if Jerry tore it down, maybe your case if you recorded the SN#. I never got any of my old parts back. The BAR says to me" your motor looks like the rest of them". Useless IMHO. over 3 years with this circus.

Did you go there and try to get your engine back? If so, what happened? I am amazed why you and others like yourself have not joined forces and hired an attorney collectively to fight them. When I was in private practice, there were several times when the companies/banks/individuals that I worked for had me sue another company or individual, with legal grounds of course, just to send them numerous amounts of paperwork such as interrogatories, requests for admissions/production of documents, depositions, etc. just to blind them with paperwork and all of sudden after a couple of months of defending such, the defendants were ready to come to my client's terms and agree to what they wanted. I would surmise that they do not have the deep pockets to defend a good sound lawsuit. That's just my two cents though.

[Group77Racing]

[QUOTE=dcjones56;7695394]Did you go there and try to get your engine back? If so, what happened? QUOTE]

Oh, I got it back. 4/15/2013 3 years 2 days . Had to call Downey PD. A lot of details in between, I'll leave out because those details can be used against MM. In the end, Jerry Jr, stalled us for 6 hours while they rushed to assemble the engine. We could see that through the fence.

Being in the collector car market for 30 plus years, you deal with all kinds of BS. Motormeister screwed me from day 1, and that was their intent, I can prove that beyond a doubt. I gave Jerry Jr. the opportunity to prove me wrong, to deliver a quality product in a timely manner for a fair price. He grossly failed at all three.

I welcome anyone, even Jerry Marks Jr ( aka Roy, aka Jerry Marques) of Motormeister, to visit me in Wisconsin and listen to this knocking, rattling, hammering pile of crap.

Prove to me that this "rebuild" is with-in "Porsche spec" as Jerry Jr. says( I have the email).

[dcjones56]

[QUOTE=Group77Racing;7698676]

Originally Posted by dcjones56

Did you go there and try to get your engine back? If so, what happened? QUOTE]

Oh, I got it back. 4/15/2013 3 years 2 days . Had to call Downey PD. A lot of details in between, I'll leave out because those details can be used against MM. In the end, Jerry Jr, stalled us for 6 hours while they rushed to assemble the engine. We could see that through the fence.

Being in the collector car market for 30 plus years, you deal with all kinds of BS. Motormeister screwed me from day 1, and that was their intent, I can prove that beyond a doubt. I gave Jerry Jr. the opportunity to prove me wrong, to deliver a quality product in a timely manner for a fair price. He grossly failed at all three.

I welcome anyone, even Jerry Marks Jr ( aka Roy, aka Jerry Marques) of Motormeister, to visit me in Wisconsin and listen to this knocking, rattling, hammering pile of crap.

Prove to me that this "rebuild" is with-in "Porsche spec" as Jerry Jr. says( I have the email).

So long story short, you went there in person and they stalled you for six hours while they assembled the engine which you could see them doing through the fence. Well, at least you got the engine or parts of one back. That is more than a lot on here have done. What type of contract did you have with them? Was it written or oral?

[911pcars]

Most likely MM assembled an engine using your identifiable crankcase. As for the other parts that were originally a part of it...... Did they claim to rebuild it too?

If so, since the recently rebuilt/assembled engine has yet to be run, it would be interesting to perform an autopsy of sorts; document its disassembly and inspection in the presence of an objective engine rebuilder, then post the results wherever you'd like - here, for example.

I'm sure many would contribute a small amount to cover the expenses of such an exam.

MHO,
S

[thumbdoctor]

I had to laugh when I watched one of they're YouTube videos. Demonstrating everything a previous rebuilder had done wrong and the cavalier attitude of the presenter stating that they could repair everything. The parts would be refreshed was one of the catch phrases which got me started.

[Group77Racing]

Originally Posted by 911pcars

Most likely MM assembled an engine using your identifiable crankcase. As for the other parts that were originally a part of it...... Did they claim to rebuild it too?

If so, since the recently rebuilt/assembled engine has yet to be run, it would be interesting to perform an autopsy of sorts; document its disassembly and inspection in the presence of an objective engine re-builder, then post the results wherever you'd like - here, for example.

I'm sure many would contribute a small amount to cover the expenses of such an exam.

MHO,
S

Charged $8300, wait, $11700, wait, $12280, wait $14300, wait,$16,000 plus California sales tax on a out-of-state purchase, for a MM "special". Anyone is welcome to visit Wisconsin and listen to this rattle trap run, even Jerry Jr., but I'm sure he doesn't have the b@!!s. I'm calling you out Jerry, to fix this engine and your reputation, because I'll never stop.

I have several of MM contracts, the ones I signed that matter, the unsigned rest are Jerry changing the terms to extract more money for a job he failed to deliver. I have over 400 emails with this company, plenty of incriminating ones, thanks Jerry Jr.

There is more paperwork to rebuild this junk than build a space station, I'm not joking.

[dcjones56]

Originally Posted by Group77Racing

Charged $8300, wait, $11700, wait, $12280, wait $14300, wait,$16,000 plus California sales tax on a out-of-state purchase, for a MM "special". Anyone is welcome to visit Wisconsin and listen to this rattle trap run, even Jerry Jr., but I'm sure he doesn't have the b@!!s. I'm calling you out Jerry, to fix this engine and your reputation, because I'll never stop.

I have several of MM contracts, the ones I signed that matter, the unsigned rest are Jerry changing the terms to extract more money for a job he failed to deliver. I have over 400 emails with this company, plenty of incriminating ones, thanks Jerry Jr.

There is more paperwork to rebuild this junk than build a space station, I'm not joking.

I have no doubt that what you are saying is true. Therefore, you should be able to hire a lawyer to pursue a lawsuit. You never can tell the right lawyer may do it on contingency agreement or rather no fee unless he collects for you. Just my two cents worth though.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Group77Racing

Charged $8300, wait, $11700, wait, $12280, wait $14300, wait,$16,000 plus California sales tax on a out-of-state purchase, for a MM "special". Anyone is welcome to visit Wisconsin and listen to this rattle trap run, even Jerry Jr., but I'm sure he doesn't have the b@!!s. I'm calling you out Jerry, to fix this engine and your reputation, because I'll never stop.

I have several of MM contracts, the ones I signed that matter, the unsigned rest are Jerry changing the terms to extract more money for a job he failed to deliver. I have over 400 emails with this company, plenty of incriminating ones, thanks Jerry Jr.

There is more paperwork to rebuild this junk than build a space station, I'm not joking.

Wow, 16K for a POS engine.

That much should get you a top notch full rebuild.

Sick em! Keep us posted.

[boogie_man]

My guy got very lucky !! And, with the help/phone call from his Atty was able to get the correct engine and parts back !!! They tried to give him the run around all day long but he was able to get it back and take it to a reputable mechanic in San Clemente to get it done right. It hurts he has to start all over with the money and time lost as I assured him that's a lot better than 1-3 years to get your stuff back at 2-3 times the cost. I'm still shocked the BAR hasn't gotten involved with this company....Good luck to all involved with these people......

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Group77Racing

Charged $8300, wait, $11700, wait, $12280, wait $14300, wait,$16,000 plus California sales tax on a out-of-state purchase, for a MM "special". Anyone is welcome to visit Wisconsin and listen to this rattle trap run, even Jerry Jr., but I'm sure he doesn't have the b@!!s. I'm calling you out Jerry, to fix this engine and your reputation, because I'll never stop.

I have several of MM contracts, the ones I signed that matter, the unsigned rest are Jerry changing the terms to extract more money for a job he failed to deliver. I have over 400 emails with this company, plenty of incriminating ones, thanks Jerry Jr.

There is more paperwork to rebuild this junk than build a space station, I'm not joking.

I wouldn't trust him to fix it, but I would have him pay to have a reputable mechanic, who would document the build..

[dcjones56]

Originally Posted by boogie_man

My guy got very lucky !! And, with the help/phone call from his Atty was able to get the correct engine and parts back !!! They tried to give him the run around all day long but he was able to get it back and take it to a reputable mechanic in San Clemente to get it done right. It hurts he has to start all over with the money and time lost as I assured him that's a lot better than 1-3 years to get your stuff back at 2-3 times the cost. I'm still shocked the BAR hasn't gotten involved with this company....Good luck to all involved with these people......

That's good news. My gut instinct tells me that if you push them, then they will fold and will not call your bluff. I am willing to bet they do not have the budget to fight it out in court, that gets expensive very quickly when your attorney is charging you for every phone call, letter, brief, call to the other attorney, travel expenses, etc. I do not know what the cost is in Los Angeles, but you can't get a decent lawyer for under $175.00 and that is in rural Mississippi. A buddy of mine works at a big firm in Jackson and they bill $300.00 per hour, plus all expenses paid and all they do is represent insurance companies and national/international corporations.

[RSMotorwerksJr]

I've read enough. To any of you that are seriously contemplating going after MM In court, if you are willing to cover reasonable travel expenses I will evaluate your engine and act on your behalf as an expert witness. My only stipulation for doing so is that you do not settle out of court. There needs to be a finding of facts in a court of law and an entry into public record.

[unclebilly]

Originally Posted by 911pcars

Most likely MM assembled an engine using your identifiable crankcase. As for the other parts that were originally a part of it...... Did they claim to rebuild it too?

If so, since the recently rebuilt/assembled engine has yet to be run, it would be interesting to perform an autopsy of sorts; document its disassembly and inspection in the presence of an objective engine rebuilder, then post the results wherever you'd like - here, for example.

I'm sure many would contribute a small amount to cover the expenses of such an exam.

MHO,
S

Read here... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/506845-rebuild-2-0-1968-s-motorsheister-autopsy.html this was done.

[dcjones56]

Originally Posted by RSMotorwerksJr

I've read enough. To any of you that are seriously contemplating going after MM In court, if you are willing to cover reasonable travel expenses I will evaluate your engine and act on your behalf as an expert witness. My only stipulation for doing so is that you do not settle out of court. There needs to be a finding of facts in a court of law and an entry into public record.

I would ask that you list your experience, qualifications, number of Porsche engines you have rebuilt, etc. before you so brazenly volunteer to such an undertaking (you may not be qualified to testify let alone be admitted as an expert witness in court). Any lawyer who can walk and talk knows that going to court is no easy task, and it is always a high wire act (things can go one way or another). Also, I would ask that you not place conditions upon the plaintiffs, no one knows what may come of such a lawsuit, and no lawyer worth his weight in salt would ever want to have his options limited. That's just my two cents though.