JoePa Shocking........

[widgeon13]

Good start!

Joe's gone,, just announced it

[McLovin]

Finally, the University stood up to him. (Not that they had much choice anymore).

Paterno tried to dictate the terms to the bitter end, to let him finish out the season.

His "apology/statement" of 9 hours ago was hilarious in its transparency.

"I'll retire at the end of the season, so you should stop discussing firing me immediately. To make things easier, of course."

What a joke.

“I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

“I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

“That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can. blah blah blah"

Selfish, huge ego and looking out for himself to the bitter end. Nice.

[URY914]

Normy,

I don't get it. Was there a shower on the plane? Was this the team plane?

[Les Paul]

Now if someone would give Sandusky a loaded 357 or 45 and tell him to go out in a field, take your cell phone and call 911 and inform them there is a perv with his head blown off that needs to be picked up. Save even more miserey.

[tchanson]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Paterno tried to dictate the terms to the bitter end, to let him finish out the season.

His "apology/statement" of 9 hours ago was hilarious in its transparency.

"I'll retire at the end of the season, so you should stop discussing firing me immediately. To make things easier, of course."

What a joke.

I have to agree. That was a comically ham handed attempt to forestall the inevitable by Joe earlier today, but I'll bet it was directed more by his wannabee PR agent son.

A sad and tawdry end.



Go Big Red.





Tim

[Superman]

More well-put, Normy, than anyone so far on this thread.

It is indeed disgusting and Paterno appears to be at least as culpable as the others. What a cascade of mistakes. The one that floors me the most is McQueary, of course.

A quote that has always resonated with me is Dante:

"The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."

[DonDavis]

I see the students are out in force. How many of them really know what's going on? What a complete fiasco. Take a look at ESPN, the live footage shows them smiling, chanting, are they even remotely aware that at least 8 people have been molested/raped. By Joe's admission, he knew at least one occasion that Sandusky was showering with a 10 year old and later McQueary witnessed Sandusky raping another?

And did you see Joe Pa-thetic leading a chant and school cheer last night? Penn State will be paying a LOT of money once the civil suits begin. This will drag on for years.

As I'm typing this, ESPN is showing Joe and the Mrs stepping out to greet the supporters. More smiling, waving to the cheers. This is utterly unbelievable.

And Supe, I suppose Joe now has a seat reserved in Hell, too.

[MotoSook]

I see the students are out in force. How many of them really know what's going on?

Someone commented, the supporters in front of JoePa's house make the Occupiers look like brain surgeons.

[9dreizig]

ok conspiracy theorists.....
The prosecutor that was handling the case a few years ago, disapears a few years ago. only thing found is his car and hard drive (unrecoverable). suicide? murder ? discuss amongst yourselves..

[Superman]

Originally Posted by DonDavis

And Supe, I suppose Joe now has a seat reserved in Hell, too.

This I don't know but interesting you should bring it up. God said judgment is his, not ours. Our assignment is love. Yet he may be more merciful than we.

[chocolatelab]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

ok conspiracy theorists.....
The prosecutor that was handling the case a few years ago, disapears a few years ago. only thing found is his car and hard drive (unrecoverable). suicide? murder ? discuss amongst yourselves..

wow, that is crazy

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Superman

This I don't know but interesting you should bring it up. God said judgment is his, not ours. Our assignment is love. Yet he may be more merciful than we.

We have a court system to judge people. That is what we pay them to do. We don't have a system to love the criminals, we judge them and punsish them.

Joe broke the law of criminal code and certainly moral code. He had a long and great carrer where he was pointed to as the moral coach. All of that is gone, he will be remembered as the enabler of child rape.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by McLovin

Sickening.

The grand jury report said McQueary was in the locker room that night to put away some new sneakers when he heard "rhythmic, slapping sounds" and looked into the showers.

He reportedly saw a naked boy, about 10 years old, with his hands against the wall as Sandusky subjected him to anal sex. McQueary left immediately and first contacted his father before calling Paterno the next morning and then meeting at Paterno's home.

Exactly what was said during that meeting is unclear from the grand jury record, which states that Paterno called Curley the next day to tell him McQueary had seen Sandusky "in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."

I'm pretty sure that I would not have left that boy there to continue suffering. I'm fairly certain that I would have stopped the assault. Has McQueary been taken to task for leaving that boy there?

[Macroni]

I am not a perfect man.... I have made mistakes but none to the level of this magnitude or tragedy. I hope given a true crisis I will be able to view it from outside of my own self interest. I hope I have that courage...... I have seen many great men fail that test and JoePa is another.....

[Macroni]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I'm pretty sure that I would not have left that boy there to continue suffering. I'm fairly certain that I would have stopped the assault. Has McQueary been taken to task for leaving that boy there?

McQueary panicked........ sad........ a very weak man who ultimately placed his needs above the victims..... wow...... a true display of cowardice...

[Schrup]

Originally Posted by 9dreizig

ok conspiracy theorists.....
The prosecutor that was handling the case a few years ago, disapears a few years ago. only thing found is his car and hard drive (unrecoverable). suicide? murder ? discuss amongst yourselves..

Looks like the prosecutor conspired with the school to squelch this. I doubt drug lords threw him in the river.

[sammyg2]

Unscientific opinion poll:


Do you think Paterno should have been fired?


Not sure. Paterno told university officials of the alleged abuse, but it seems he should have done more. 8.49% (2,189 votes)

No. While Paterno admits he should have done more, he’s earned the right to retire with dignity. 32.44% (8,362 votes)

Yes. Paterno’s “legend” does not excuse him from responsibility. Bottom line: He failed those kids. 59.07% (15,228 votes)

Total Votes: 25,779

Read more: Should Paterno Have Been Fired? | Fox News

[BeyGon]

Ask the llittle boys and their families if they think he should have been fired, or worse.

[Crowbob]

The obvious question is why would Joe Paterno risk everything by not bringing the cops into this whole hideous turn of events?

What possible benefit could Joe Paterno have by keeping this mess under the protective wraps of the Penn State organization which has worshipped him for decades?

[Macroni]

To Non-Staters:

We know you don't understand. Generally, we don't try to explain. Unless you are a Buckeye or Fighting Irish, you probably don't get how an institution embeds itself in a student's life. And that is fine.

But right now, we want you to know this:
...
We are distraught and truly sickened by this horror perpetrated on young victims by one who represented the Blue and White, and perpetuated by others at the University. We aren't blind followers who drink Blue Kool-Aid. We grieve for and with the victims and their families. We pray for them to find healing and peace and a way to live a good life.

We know that while many people had responsibility, the most visible one almost always goes down first. We are not disputing the need for this to happen.

We are not "defending" anything. We are simply crushed and heartbroken. This is not the Penn State we love, the Penn State that is part of our being.

What you know of Joe Paterno probably comes from television or magazine articles.

We know the man who has lived in the same McKee St house for decades. We have chatted with him as he walked to practice. We have eaten ice cream with him at the Creamery. We have studied in the new library wing his money helped build. We have visited the sports museum and spiritual center he also helped build. We have seen him cheering on other Penn State athletes. We know he loves Penn State as much as we do.

Some of our friends, brothers, husbands, sons have been privileged to put on the Blue and White uniform and listen to 100,000 fans in Beaver Stadium. We know how hard they have worked, how much time they have devoted, how many of them have been part of an excellent scholar/athlete legacy...and how much they love this man and this program.

We aren't stupid or naive. We know Joe Paterno has culpability. We know he could have made different choices - he admitted that. We don't think he is God or always perfect or saintly. But he is the greatest college football coach ever, and he is PSU family, and we don't want his exit to be like this.

WE ARE...not closing our eyes, ignoring reports, pretending this isn't a wretched occurrence.
WE ARE...angry that innocents would be violated under our care.
WE ARE...in support of appropriate punishment for every person involved.
WE ARE...demanding change to a system that would allow this.
WE ARE...not concerned if you do not understand our love and devotion.
WE ARE...PENN STATE proud and we will rise again.