I have made a set of PFC's for a DIY'er They Will Be Installed Reversing The Gases

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

The 86 cabriolet Owner and DIY member here who received my PFCs was involved in a motorcycle accident with serious injuries and why his A/C conversion and many repair items has taken this long.

Accident?

That's what they want you to believe!!!

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

I will decide to post pictures or other information or NOT depending on how I am treated

Your Mother wears army boots.

You have a photographic memory except you ran out of film.

I hear your wife really likes it when you say something nice about her tooth.

[Corvus Corvax]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

I don't think it was rude at all !!!

I'd like to thank you for so kindly proving my point. Someone who calls another a troll or suggests a shill relationship without even a shred of evidence is not someone to be counted on for customer service. Your product might be the very best, but without customer service, it will never gain the market share it deserves. You seem to ignore the good advice from folks who wish you well, and also seem bent on making enemies. Trust me, you seem to be a rude person, and anyone who does business with you should ne warned up front that you are not easy to deal with.

Whereas before I suggested that people research all the options, I will now actively warn people away from your products. Maybe this will cause you to think before you post.

[zippy_gg]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

REAR DECK LID PFC
(the PFC sealing to the deck lid has already been completely sealed properly)


Smart VOV valve RECEIVER TANK


Engine compartment COMPRESSOR HOSES
(Reversing THE GASES HINT)

So this is my car, and the reason this project is not complete is because sometimes life gets in the way, such as kids going to college (where my "projects" money is being diverted), and getting in a motorcycle accident among other things.
Also I did many more things to my cab...

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Your Mother wears army boots.

You have a photographic memory except you ran out of film.

I hear your wife really likes it when you say something nice about her tooth.

Excellent! Now we can only hope that Kelogs is true to his word and will not longer post any more nonsense a/c information or re-cycled pictures.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the fact that Gilles/Zippy has some of Reid's products in his possession, I would be convinced that Reid has never even laid hands on a 911 a/c system, and that his many years of posting garbage on the subject here is just a sham meant to entertain himself.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by Corvus Corvax

Someone who calls another a troll or suggests a shill relationship without even a shred of evidence is not someone to be counted on for customer service. Your product might be the very best, but without customer service, it will never gain the market share it deserves. You seem to ignore the good advice from folks who wish you well, and also seem bent on making enemies. Trust me, you seem to be a rude person, and anyone who does business with you should ne warned up front that you are not easy to deal with.

Whereas before I suggested that people research all the options, I will now actively warn people away from your products. Maybe this will cause you to think before you post.

Absolutely spot-on post . . . Kelogs is the most pompous, abrasive, and downright abusive, vendor (who is selling, but not selling, but selling his products) I've ever seen post on the Pelican forums. Couple that with his pronounced lack of a/c knowledge, which doesn't prevent him from claiming that he is the new, A/C Messiah, by the way, and you've got the makings of rarefied comedy on your hands.

[KelogGes]

G thanks for the rescue!

[KelogGes]

now that you have bared yourself

perhaps you start a new thread for what we are doing?

[Corvus Corvax]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

now that you have exposed yourself

I so wish Ronnie were still here. He would know exactly what to post in response to this.

[KelogGes]

thanks for being a very nice gentleman ! you are right
but not seeing it all

Originally Posted by daepp

Dear Mr Kelog:

I drive an early 911 Targa and live in Southern California; I have no need for AC. I removed the dealer added remnants of a system when I bought the car . I have no dog in this fight - I only drive the car in pleasant weather - which is a majority of the time around here.

All by yourself you set an angry tone at the beginning of this thread. While there have been some trolls, there have also been some kind hearted members who have made, in my opinion, very good suggestions to you regarding tone and humility - perhaps they're hopeful you've produced an improvement for their cars and WANT you to succeed, but are concerned you're too much of an engineer to express yourself well. It's also possible you've too much hubris - regardless, you might want to consider turning it down a notch.

Sincerely,

Just Another Bozo On The Bus

[KelogGes]

time to make a new thread

[Corvus Corvax]

Originally Posted by KelogGes

time to make a new thread

Why? This thread will still exist.

[dentist90]

Originally Posted by Corvus Corvax

I so wish Ronnie were still here. He would know exactly what to post in response to this.

...and yet, I feel his presence as if he were still among us 😏

[dentist90]

Actually I have been following this thread (for a year now) waiting to hear how this system works. The primary condenser is smaller than the secondary with presumably less airflow, there must be 4 lines running from the engine bay to the front instead of two normally present. Will it need another 1/2 lb of 134a to charge also? Lots of promises and teasing but no posted results yet. The PF condensers do look pretty slick, but is rerouting (reversing) the flow actually advantageous?

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by dentist90

The primary condenser is smaller than the secondary with presumably less airflow

CORRECT!

there must be 4 lines running from the engine bay to the front instead of two normally present

CORRECT!

The PF condensers do look pretty slick, but is rerouting (reversing) the flow actually advantageous?

YES! But not how he does it...

My car came with an underbelly condenser and it was run, by design, as the first condenser. So, it was "reversing the gas" long before Kellogg Cereal showed up...but putting the tiny front condenser first, hoping it would do anything? Silly.

[KelogGes]

Originally Posted by dentist90

Actually I have been following this thread (for a year now) waiting to hear how this system works. The primary condenser is smaller than the secondary with presumably less airflow, there must be 4 lines running from the engine bay to the front instead of two normally present. Will it need another 1/2 lb of 134a to charge also? Lots of promises and teasing but no posted results yet. The PF condensers do look pretty slick, but is rerouting (reversing) the flow actually advantageous?

howdy dentist90

fyi the whole a/c system with these PFCs will probably require approximately between .95 lbs to 1 lbs .10 oz -to- 1 lbs .20 ozs of R134A refrigerant for optimum amount gestiment from my experience installing these particulate version PFCs when reversing the gases, however CABRIOLETS have cloth tops compared to hardtops and this is the first Cab I have had any version of my PFC designs installed into and expect the cockpit to be warmer then my other installations do to the Cab cloth top air leaks, that is why I am digital controlling the evaporator to run within only one degree increments precisely controllable above freezing to compensate colder

note r134a has a very small/tight window of optimum amount to SYSTEM efficiency, closest to the least amount possible to obtain the coldest temperature;

this is why with 134a your vent temps get coldest just before they need refrigerate added with an extremely slow leak over time than quickly turn warm

for your other very excellent questions you will haft to wait until G starts a new thread, I am done with this thread and abuse

G has unlimited support from me day or night 24/7

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by Pazuzu

Silly.

No doubt about that!

And anther silly aspect of the whole deal is Kellog's oft-repeated claim that his gear and system renders all existing a/c componentry woefully inadequate and obsolete, while offering supporting vent temp evidence that shows performance which is maybe equal too, and definitely inferior than (depending on the particular, "antiquated" components used and the skill level of the person doing the installation and system charging), systems built with the proven aftermarket items that Kellog so forcefully maligns.

So where are the benefits; a little bit less component weight? Maybe each condenser weighs a little less, but how much does the extra hose required to "reverse the methane" weigh?

It's one thing to post "I have designed a/c alternatives that perform almost the same but might weigh less than what's already available" and another to say that one's new stuff blows everything else out of the water and then provide evidence to the contrary.

Talk about "exposing" one's rear end!

[lucifer572]

Not to hijack this thread but I rebuilt my pedal cluster and waxed my car this weekend!

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by lucifer572

Not to hijack this thread but I rebuilt my pedal cluster and waxed my car this weekend!

Did you use the old school, "wax on wax off" method (a technique that I hear Corvax has mastered to perfection) or was a random orbital polisher utilized?!?!

[Bleedsblue]

I can't help myself...

Post 216 has enlightened me to the real purpose of this system; it's clearly stated this is being installed in a cabaret, nullifying the opinions of every air cooled 911 a/c "expert" in this thread (barring those whose career is installing HVAC in cabarets of course [Rawknees probably falls into that category, just sayin']).