Cop pulls gun on Motorcyclist

[Rick Lee]

Well, there are plenty of areas out here where you can safely do triple digits. But there are few if any such places in MD, maybe on the Eastern Shore or out west near Garrett County. That video looke like I-95 and it's definitely a bad idea to ride like that anywhere on that road....though I used to get my E30 well over 100mph on some parts of that road.

[ODDJOB UNO]

p.s. i cant tell you how GLAD I AM MORON BIKE WEEK IS OVER!


only (4) maybe (5) fatalities this year. (4) of those hit while stopped by a dump truck driver HIGH AS A KITE ON METH right around the corner from rick lee.



and this comes from someone who owns alot of bikes.



always a LAUGH and A HOOT watching MORON POS LOW LIFE WHITE TRASH BIKERS park their bikes on hot asphalt and watch them tip over on their sides 10 minutes later when kickstand crushes asphalt! LMFAO! never fails.



even us silly assed dirty bikers know better than that and place a rock under the kickstand or lean it against a building or a tree if no kickstand.



yep we were the VORTEX of STOOPID MORON BIKERS FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK! now they can go home and crash INTO YOU!

[Rick Lee]

Those four killed near me were doing nothing wrong though, other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Their numbers were up that day and helmets would have made no difference. They were sitting at a red light and got mashed and then burned. I still keep my eyes on my mirrors at intersections and would not hesitate to blow through a red light if I saw a truck barrelling down on me. But those guys were just unlucky. I still ride over those blood and burn stains twice a day every day. I'm looking forward to moving 17 miles away and not seeing that every day anymore.

[ODDJOB UNO]

ya know rick when i heard that i about puked. at 1st the guy was saying he was trying to grab something on the seat and was distracted. then as the investigation moves on they find out about his background, and then when they go to bust him after getting blood tests back hes high on meth again!



heres a classic case of "speed kills" just a different kind of speed.



the ONLY TIME its safe to ride around here is when it 100 degrees plus and all the snowbirds have shriveled up and DIED! or gone back home.


i gave my street license up years ago when this OLD BAT cut across in front of me at bashas in town making a left. i was going 25mph(speed limit) had my helmet on and jacket gloves jeans boots and layed my ATK 605 DOWN HARD! that BEEEATCH never stopped and then SPLIT out the back exit of the shopping center telling me she knew what she did.


thats all it took for me. never again on city streets. interstates sure anytime but city streets here with all these idiot snowbirds is suicide!

[nostatic]

WTF was the cop thinking? The guy on the bike was backing up. If someone stopped in front of me and was exiting the car I'd do the same thing. If he pulled a gun I'd likely look for a gap and get the hell out of there. Would the cop then shoot at him riding away? I can't see any reason for the weapon to be out of the holster.

I normally side with LEO on most of these "questionable" encounters. But this guy should be sent to a desk for a long while.

[ODDJOB UNO]

nostatic.............lets do an experiment........................



why dont you go home today, whip out the old moto sickle, don yer helmet riding jacket gloves boots.................



and just go 86 mph or a 100 mph ,do some wheelies or some stoppies in front of any cop and see whats GONNA HAPPEN!


i would bet that be it undercover,marked, county/state you will get the exact same treatment.



now switch sides here for a moment and YOUR THE COP with a few years on the force. and a few domestics and felony traffic stops under yer belt.



i can GUARR-ANN-TEE you will be coming out of that car with your gun drawn! and hoping to gawd backup is arriving real damn soon. unless of course you enjoy felony stops not knowing who or what yer dealing with.



see thats whats nice about having an AZCCW, as soon as they start pulling you over they radio or punch in their laptop yer plate number for any wants and warrants, and they SEE RIGHT AWAY THAT IM A GOOD GUY with AN AZCCW PERMIT! and believe me as the sun comes up in the east everyday that makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE in how they go about there bizzness!

[nocarrier]

Have to totally agree with the cop on this one.

The cop never pointed the gun at the biker. He merely pulled it out, assessed the situation and re-holstered his side arm as soon as he determined that there was no threat.

Do you really expect the officer to wait until it's too late to pull out his gun? Besides domestic violence, traffic stops are one of the deadliest jobs that cops have to do. Being a cop is a deadly thankless job. People hate cops and some even want to kill them. Pulling his gun out was totally TOTALLY justified. Furthermore, during that stop, the cop was in a very dangerous tactical position exiting his vehicle positioned in front of the motorcycle. He lacked both cover and concealment. The cop has to always protect himself and that means always having the upper hand.

If you notice, the bike is backing up and it almost appears as if the biker is attempting to run. Perhaps risking peoples lives in his attempt to elude the officers. Seemed like a real high priority to stop him before anyone got hurt.

A common thing that bikers that are going to run do; is pull over and wait for the cop to exit the car and then suddenly take off.

Giving the order to get off the bike first is human nature in a stressful situation. I did hear him say he was state police within a few seconds.

Ever wonder why a cops retirement is so good? Well it's because statistics show that the average officer only lives about 5 years after retiring. Most die of heart attacks or suicide. Wonder why?

A lot of people don't realize but intimidation and fear is a very real fact about successful police work. If you are law abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about. But criminals should be crapping their pants at the mere sight of a police officer.

There is a price to pay for a civil and orderly society. Would you rather the police run around town passing out buttercups and silver stars instead?

[steve911T]

I have lived in Maryland for the last 40 years and average about 50000 miles per year and nothing surprises me at all what the state troopers do in this state. They use to have radar/laser traps the had the cops in the cherry pickers and about 1/4 mile down the road, have 4-8 cops on the side of the road pulling people over by stepping in front of speeding cars. They don't do that anymore for rather obvious reasons. There are a couple of safe places on the shore to hit the triple digits but you had better not speed more than 10 over because that gun could be pointed at you and I do not mean laser or radar gun. I did notice in the video that the cyclist also had a marked trooper behind him also so the gun pulling off duty cop did not make his move until he had a backup, should have had the marked vehicle do the traffic stop. I do not have anything against the MD State Police officers, generally just doing their job which is to protect the public and give as many tickets as possible for the revenue. They also have to enforce all the stupid laws that the MD legislature passes.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by nocarrier

Have to totally agree with the cop on this one.

The cop never pointed the gun at the biker. He merely pulled it out, assessed the situation and re-holstered his side arm as soon as he determined that there was no threat.

He is out of uniform and driving an unmarked civilian vehicle. The rider has no idea he is a cop and not some road rage pissed off dude. Good way for the cop to get himself shot.

Do you really expect the officer to wait until it's too late to pull out his gun?

Not until it's too late but certainly until there is indication of it as an appropriate measure. The guy on the bike is travelling at a high rate of speed and doing stunts. Not really behavior that indicates a crime has been committed. It is behavior displayed by someone who is NOT trying to avoid being noticed. Was a violent crime committed by an individual in similar attire seen speeding away on a motorcycle? That might be justifiable, pulling wheelies, no way.

Besides domestic violence, traffic stops are one of the deadliest jobs that cops have

........ Furthermore, during that stop, the cop was in a very dangerous tactical position exiting his vehicle positioned in front of the motorcycle. He lacked both cover and concealment.....

Then he's a dumbass as well for putting himself in that situation.

If you notice, the bike is backing up and it almost appears as if the biker is attempting to run.

Yeah cause some guy pulled in front of him and jumped out with a frikkin gun.

Perhaps risking peoples lives in his attempt to elude the officers. Seemed like a real high priority to stop him before anyone got hurt.

A common thing that bikers that are going to run do; is pull over and wait for the cop to exit the car and then suddenly take off.

Giving the order to get off the bike first is human nature in a stressful situation. I did hear him say he was state police within a few seconds.

He needs retraining, "POLICE" should have been the 1st word out of his mouth. If he can't control himself in a stressful situation then he should not be on the street with a gun. That's how people get killed by mistake.

Ever wonder why a cops retirement is so good? Well it's because statistics show that the average officer only lives about 5 years after retiring. Most die of heart attacks or suicide. Wonder why?

Thought it was too many donuts.

A lot of people don't realize but intimidation and fear is a very real fact about successful police work. If you are law abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about. But criminals should be crapping their pants at the mere sight of a police officer.

Fear and intimidation sounds synonymous with bully. And your hardcore criminal that's prone to wacking a cop is not intimidated or afraid of them. Or maybe he is afraid and intimidated by cops which is why they shoot cops. Take your pick.

There is a price to pay for a civil and orderly society. Would you rather the police run around town passing out buttercups and silver stars instead?

Actually yes, I've got the munchies right now.

[speeder]

Scott beat me to it but nocarrier sounds like he doesn't know WTF he's talking about. Tell me you're not a cop, please...

Most cops do not "die within 5 years of retirement". You either made that up or someone else pulled it out of their ass and you are repeating it. Put up a reliable study or STFU. I respect good cops a lot, they have the power to do a lot of good or bad in their jobs depending on their psychological make-up. I can't stand anyone whining about the job they do in society. If you don't like it, don't do it.

Cops in most cities, (including L.A.), can retire with a full pension after 20 years on the job. They got it even if they go on and do something else for a living. Many retire when they are barely 40 years old. They do not "die 5 years later", dumb schit.

What was this guy going to do if the guy on bike tried to flee, shoot him off the bike?? Jeezus...

[speeder]

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO

now switch sides here for a moment and YOUR THE COP with a few years on the force. and a few domestics and felony traffic stops under yer belt.

I'm sorry but it's hard to take advice seriously from someone who would flunk 3rd grade english class after 50-some years of speaking and reading the language.

[varmint]

out of control cop.


even his apologists can't say he followed proper procedure.

[carreradpt]

That unidentified no badge displaying cop had no reason to draw his weapon on some punk doing wheelies on his bike in traffic. Just rediculous to think otherwise. Felony traffic infraction, give me a break. Just a dumbass who will probably hurt himself sooner than later. And that cop should have recognized that immediately. That cop instantly and without provocation elevated that situation way beyond what it deserved. I worry more about cops that pull this crap on us than the former. Then to go thru all the BS procedures just to confiscate his stuff. WTF? Is that what we want to deal with in our communities?

[BlueSkyJaunte]

If this kind of behavior is SOP for that cop I'm surprised he hasn't taken a dirt nap already.

[VaSteve]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I got behind a tricked out Suburban last week, all black, black windows, lots of anntenae on the roof, LED lights around the license plate, which was AZ and non-gov't. When I pulled up next to him, I could see a laptop open by the dash. I call these "jack-booted thug-mobiles." But I was pretty sure he wasn't an AZ cop and my detector wasn't chirping. After about 20 miles doing around 75-80 around each other, out of nowhere, he lit up a tractor trailer several lanes over, crossed over all the lanes and pulled the guy over on the shoulder. I was pretty surprised by that one. Never seen a car like that make a traffic stop.

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Commercial truck fines represent a whole 'nother stratosphere of fleecing.

The fines are (by US standards), astronomical.

That black vehicle was probably purchased with Federal Grant money, solely for enforcement of Motor Carrier violations.

Part 350.101: What is the Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program (MCSAP)? - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

Each state does it differently, some buy vehicles and hire specifically for it, some allocate a portion of each officer's time to the work....depends on a whole host of factors.

[island_dude]

The cop should have been dead on the ground. There is no justification ever to brandish a weapon without identifying himself. I never saw the pathetic pig show a badge in the video.


MD cops seem to have rage issues. I had an unmarked one tailgating me and driving hyper aggressively. The POS even accused me of road rage for break checking him after 30 minutes of messing with me.

[VaSteve]

Originally Posted by steve911T

I have lived in Maryland for the last 40 years and average about 50000 miles per year and nothing surprises me at all what the state troopers do in this state. They use to have radar/laser traps the had the cops in the cherry pickers and about 1/4 mile down the road, have 4-8 cops on the side of the road pulling people over by stepping in front of speeding cars. They don't do that anymore for rather obvious reasons. There are a couple of safe places on the shore to hit the triple digits but you had better not speed more than 10 over because that gun could be pointed at you and I do not mean laser or radar gun. I did notice in the video that the cyclist also had a marked trooper behind him also so the gun pulling off duty cop did not make his move until he had a backup, should have had the marked vehicle do the traffic stop. I do not have anything against the MD State Police officers, generally just doing their job which is to protect the public and give as many tickets as possible for the revenue. They also have to enforce all the stupid laws that the MD legislature passes.

If you watch the long video, the marked car can be seen in the median at 1:07. I wonder if it's the same one? He had to have been flying.

[Rick Lee]

The one time I was pulled over (in the US) by an unmarked car was in Fairfax Co. and the car was a Camaro. But he had lights and he was in uniform when I approached me.

[nocarrier]

Yes he is out of uniform and in an unmarked vehicle. I'll give you that. But the biker was speeding excessively and doing stunts which in most cities is CRIMINAL.

Furthermore, the fact that the biker is doing this crap on city streets by default is putting innocent people at risk. The Officer has a DUTY to keep the public safe from immediate serious harm. If in plain clothes or not he has that duty. I'm not saying that this gives the officer the right to stop people and jump out for the slightest infractions. But if someone is driving in a manner to put people in danger, he had every right to stop that guy. That bike is a freaking 600lb projectile!

What if someone you loved got hurt because of some a-hole doing wheelies and hauling a$$ around town?

If anyone of you ACTUALLY paid attention, the biker started backing up as if to flee even BEFORE the cop got out of the car. Once again proving this guy needed to be stopped.

Ever heard the saying "driving a car is like having a loaded gun?"

As for the comments about cops dying. NO I don't have an actually study folded in my back pocket for such events. But I can tell you this. I've know enough cops that have died of heart attacks, have heart problems, or have committed suicide than I'd really care to discuss.

However, I did google it and this is one of the first links that came up www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/pr/109485.pdf

Funny, it's a study about cops dying at an average of 4-5 years after retirement.

There were many other links to studies. Read them or STFU!

Seems to me like this would be a main factor the cops union fight for such good retirements.

I'm not sure if the above link worked. But google it for yourself.

Oh, and as for the hardcore criminal that isn't afraid of cops. Well he doesn't give 2 **** about you or your family as well. But you might, after you become his victim. You see when there is no fear of consequence this is what you end up with. A repeat offender and a menace to society. It's getting worse and that's because people like you can't understand the concept that these people only respond to what they know. And that is fear, intimidation, and violence. NOT BULLYING.

Bullying is for the insecure and the weak. Yeah there are cops out there who like to throw their weight around for no reason. But there is a time and a place for everything.

Lastly, As for the cop sating he was "state police" withing a few seconds. Well, in an ideal world he should identity himself first. But like we all noticed, he was probably off duty, in plain clothes and in an unmarked car. Not in "police" mode because he probably wasn't on the job at the time. Could have it been better. Well, there is always room for improvement and I'm sure you guys don't do your job 100% all the time. And you're not under this stress.

So until you've had to show up on stabbings, gun shots, drive by's, seen people disemboweled, see kids killed, raped, abused, watch your friends die and commit suicide at your job, try and not be to critical of the cop who may be the next one to save your A$$.

[nostatic]

If you watch the long vid, you also see that the unmarked car had full tint. So bike comes to a stop in traffic, car comes from behind and pulls in front of him. You bet I'd be backing my bike up. Then the guy pulls a gun?

The guy should be riding a desk.

And how can the rider not help but wind out the 675. The triple made him do it