What happened to the Mulholland "King of the Hill" RSR?

[Retrorick]

Banning Said: "We can get all the Mulholland racers from the past and present, and hold a race on these little buggers thru the racecourse.
Now that would be fun!"
No fair! Victor (SSB) has an advantage as an experienced unicyclist.
That thing looks like a Segway for boy racers. Cool!
Retrorick
07 MazdaSpeed3
73 MGB

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by Banning

This looked quite interesting.
We can get all the Mulholland racers from the past and present, and hold a race on these little buggers thru the racecourse.
Now that would be fun!





A young inventor from Canada is currently seeking investors to manufacture his eye-catching creation. Ben Gulak, 18 years of age, says that he came up with the concept because according to him, "if something doesn't look cool people just won't be interested." And right he was (to some extent) since the prototype of the unicycle motorbike called "Uno" has been igniting the interests of many. Uno is equipped with a single switch to turn the machine on or off. Its speed and direction is controlled solely by the movement of one's body. The motorbike uses gyroscopic technology to stay balanced, and is equipped with two gyros, one meant for turning, and another for going forward and backward

Uno runs and accelerates as you lean forward into the bike, going at a maximum speed of 25mph; although Gulak says it can go faster with a bigger motor. Frankly though, I believe 25mph is good enough for something which seems to be quite scary to ride. But then again, as Ben says, you need to learn to trust the Uno first. Can you blame me for thinking it'll make for a heart-pumping ride? Sure, the Uno has a couple of wheels, but they're right next to each other, creating an illusion of a unicycle. What's great about it being quite small though is that it's only 120 pounds, and you can actually carry it indoors to be recharged--a single charge is enough for 2.5 hours of transport. Let's just hope it's safe for actual usage if and when it's manufactured for public consumption.

That reminds me of Hippity Hops.....at least the grown up version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF5YDDmNwQw

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by Banning

Thanks for joining in, it was great to have a motorcycle run with us along Mulholland.

If a cop does ever come by, I'll invite them to join the fun like I did last year.
The only video that will ever be seen on my laptop on Mulholland, is stuff that is directly related to Mulholland. That's the way it is, and there's more old Mulholland to see.

I think with age we have an advantage. On the other hand it makes good sense to get to know todays cops on Mulholland because it may help one day if an incident were to occur or at least a traffic stop . Seems a little ironic considering the past doesn't it?

Think about it...cops become familar and pass by thinking "its just those same guys, they are always up here" and move on to the real trouble.

or
.....cops don't know "those guys" and trouble starts....."what are they doing up here?......."whats with the sports cars?"......"lets mess with those guys"......"lets run those guys out of here" - you get the idea!

I learned this with Harrison in the past. Last time I saw him I was (86-87?) parked at Grandstands right next to him for an hour and he didn't even get out the car. All I got was a hey head nod. I also think Harrison was a different kind of cop. If you gave him respect you got a little slack in return..not much. Todays cops are different so my take is better off on the good side than the bad.

Then again it might just backfire and we are all going to the slammer, cars impounded and cited for various 22350's.

Or we all carry camera's and claim we are part of a documentary team. There is a 99% truth to this. We have the website to back it up.



On the flip side of the coin this is what really attracts cops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb9KHLaV3FQ

[Jeff Hail]

Hey Chris

I wonder if we could track down Harrison to make the Mulholland history complete? He has got to be 80 years plus by now.

[Banning]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hail

I think with age we have an advantage. On the other hand it makes good sense to get to know todays cops on Mulholland because it may help one day if an incident were to occur or at least a traffic stop . Seems a little ironic considering the past doesn't it?

Think about it...cops become familar and pass by thinking "its just those same guys, they are always up here" and move on to the real trouble.

or
.....cops don't know "those guys" and trouble starts....."what are they doing up here?......."whats with the sports cars?"......"lets mess with those guys"......"lets run those guys out of here" - you get the idea!

I learned this with Harrison in the past. Last time I saw him I was (86-87?) parked at Grandstands right next to him for an hour and he didn't even get out the car. All I got was a hey head nod. I also think Harrison was a different kind of cop. If you gave him respect you got a little slack in return..not much. Todays cops are different so my take is better off on the good side than the bad.

Then again it might just backfire and we are all going to the slammer, cars impounded and cited for various 22350's.

Or we all carry camera's and claim we are part of a documentary team. There is a 99% truth to this. We have the website to back it up.



On the flip side of the coin this is what really attracts cops:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb9KHLaV3FQ

Great idea Jeff!

We'll do better with a carrot (doughnut) instead of a stick. If we contact the cops and inform them that we are the Advanced Nieghborhood Patrol (The ANP) and tell them that we do a quick weekly patrol on Mulholland looking for people who are in need, maybe we can get to know them on a friendly basis. If we can really help someone (and I would like to) who has crashed or is being mugged at Deadmans, we will have credibility, and we will be known as crime fighters in this big city (what a switch). We might even make the evening news.

Stranger things have happened.

[Jeff Hail]

Originally Posted by Banning

Great idea Jeff!

We'll do better with a carrot (doughnut) instead of a stick. If we contact the cops and inform them that we are the Advanced Nieghborhood Patrol (The ANP) and tell them that we do a quick weekly patrol on Mulholland looking for people who are in need, maybe we can get to know them on a friendly basis. If we can really help someone (and I would like to) who has crashed or is being mugged at Deadmans, we will have credibility, and we will be known as crime fighters in this big city (what a switch). We might even make the evening news.

Stranger things have happened.

Stilts would be proud! "The Neighborhood Watch" is expanding.

I can picture the headlines.........."ex-racers turn guardians of Mulholland Drive"

[lfot]

Hey y'all.
We had a great time out in the canyons this morning for Chris's birthday.
Check out pics / post pics here:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/407507-porcupine911s-birthday-canyon-drive.html#post3923656

[Noah930]

[Jeff Hail]

Visiting (work and some play) a business acquaintance up in Santa Maria today. More like stay and drool for a while. A few pieces of his MONSTER GARAGE.

Not Mul or German car related but clearly California car culture at its best straight line style.

Late 70's Monza Funny Car being restored (Nitro Methane)



2000 Horsepower?


Altered /Alcohol burning 200 inch dragster





8 second quarter mile!



Extra Hillborn injection (original), extra blower and the lower right is a factory original dual carb setup for a Corvette.

[Jeff Hail]

1974 Chevy Surfer Van and he is the original owner.
Frenched lamps, ghost flames and a "Custom Cruser Roof" grafted on top. Steve's work is first rate. Old school but really was a blast from the past.


"If this van is a rock'n don't come a knock'in"



When I walked in the shop the Van blocked the view of this special coupe. I went past the Van and it stopped me dead in my tracks. Whoaaa!


Battery went dead in the camera and I was unable to shoot the other toys in the attic. A collection of rare race boats in the next room.

[lfot]

Jeff,

WOW!!!

[Banning]

Nice Projects, thanks for taking photos and posting them Jeff.

[Jeff Hail]

Kevin
I think it was actually Nader that is unsafe at any speed. Especially with that funny eye.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/23/video-corvair-to-nader-kiss-my-unsafe-quarter-panel/

[KevinP73]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hail

Kevin
I think it was actually Nader that is unsafe at any speed. Especially with that funny eye.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/23/video-corvair-to-nader-kiss-my-unsafe-quarter-panel/

Thanks Jeff, I've got that one in my library also.

[Banning]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hail

Kevin
I think it was actually Nader that is unsafe at any speed. Especially with that funny eye.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/23/video-corvair-to-nader-kiss-my-unsafe-quarter-panel/

That's a cool video about Corvairs. I especially liked the 20 mile drive in the stream channel and the nice rollover at speed (was there someone in there?).

"The Corvair took the punishment and asked for more", they said.

Did the Corvair get here before the Baja Bug? It looks like the video might be implying that, and why didn't they try to rollover a Corvair Rampside?

[nameisbauer]

Kinda last minute, but if anyone is around there is a car show in Culver city, hosted by Barris. tomorrow from 9am-3pm, down town Culver City. I'll be there, maybe I can sneak my car in.

http://culvercitycarshow.com/

[Banning]

Update for Carrera: Beginning to polish wheels back to original luster, will post photos later. Next job is to refurbish the 906 braking system installed on the Carrera.

Update for second edition of The Mulholland Experience: Rich Adams is still editing the first edition text. I am reformatting the contents and structure, and am doing more interviews to add to the information. For example, Tony Cottrell and I had a fantastic interview on March 27th, he is Jeremy's older brother and the founder of TVL. Kurt Oblinger, who is also a founding member of TVL finished the story of that racing group on April 13th in his interview. Jeff Dyer has completed the story for the SCCRA. They were the group that ran their cars for the filming of King of the Mountain and were the last named group on Mulholland until Derek's group called the MIRRC was created last year.


Below is a letter that I got yesterday from a Robert Meents. I thought that some of you might like to see it.

Mr. Banning;

My name is Robert Meents and I live in Tucson Az. I was reading the pelican parts thread about your RSR Carrera and could'nt believe it. I have been a Porsche fanatic since I was a teen and now I am 44 years old. Ever since I saw King of the Mountain in the early eighties,I wondered if this racing really existed on mulholland. I was blown away by the pelican thread as it confirmed my question after all of these years. Here in Tucson at about the same time as KOM,my friends and I would run up and down what is called Catalina highway. If you have ever seen the movie" The Wraith", the Catalina highway is where this was filmed. A camera truck went over the side during filming and killed a camera man.There is a memorial in the credits at the end of the movie. I used to run a 1971 datsun 240z up there and we had a lot of fun. We did'nt have a name,we just showed up and raced. I now own a 1980 porsche 911 sc but they don't run on catalina anymore. I wanted to give you a little history of my corner of the world and let all of you mulholland people know about us. I am waiting for your revised book to come out and I would love to come to L.A.to see your car when it comes back to life. I would like to purchase a copy of the DVD that you made about Mulholland,"Mulholland Maniacs" .If you could do that for me I would greatly appreciate it. Let me know how much and the shipping cost. I have been wanting to write to you guys and say hello for a while now but I did'nt think this belonged on the pelican thread. If you would like to post this e-mail ,you are more than welcome to. Thank You for your time. Robert Meents

[Banning]

This is a production still from the making of King of the Mountain.
In the last post I mentioned Jeff Dyer of the SCCRA and how his group were the extras for the making of the movie. This shot was taken at the Griffith Park shooting location in 1980. Jeff is one of the guys at the Van in the right hand corner.

[Jeff Hail]

Buddy: [after the Trans Am driver says they only race for money] What did you do?
Steve: I set up a race.
Buddy: Yeah, but for a hundred dollars?
Steve: Trust me....we won't need it!
Buddy: That's all I need to hear!
________________________________________
Cal: Some chick came by looking for you... drives a Citroen.
Steve: What did you tell her?
Cal: What did I tell her?
[pauses]
Cal: I told her you had a small (editpee pee!
________________________________________
Cal: How 'bout you man, you wanna race?
Race spectator: I don't even own a car..
Cal: Well have your father buy you one!
________________________________________
Barry Tanner: [speaking to Roger about Buddy's talents] You think he's a songwriter? He's not (edit) crap! When *I* record his stuff, then he's somebody.
________________________________________
Barry Tanner: You wanna be a record producer, or be your friends song schlepper? It's up to you, baby!
________________________________________
Cal: That's what this business is about...cars that don't run. Know what's worse than a car that won't run? Pushing a car that won't run!
[pauses]
Cal: No.. holding up a dead body..lifting him up, yeah. Especially if it's yours!
________________________________________
Steve: Are you going to be here when I get back?
Tina: That's the girl's line, remember?
________________________________________
Buddy: I'll run with you.
Cal: [turns and recognizes Buddy] Music maker... organ grinder.
Buddy: Hey, I've heard it all tonight... I'd rather not hear any more.
Cal: You're in over your head, boy.
Buddy: [angrily] Look! I said I'd run... now can you get it together, and tell me if you're in or out? I'm ready!
________________________________________
Steve: [Opening lines, voiceover] 23 miles of Mulholland, slicing Los Angeles like a knife... it's like a trip in time. Sometimes I just can't wait for night. You see too much in the sunshine. Road's changin'... civilization's choking it. At night, the straightaways are shorter... turns sharper... the drop steeper. It's the only place I ever felt safe. Clear, clean... and fast. Freedom. I wonder who it'll be tonight? I hope he's fast.
________________________________________
Police helicopter pilot: [directed at Steve, who's still racing] OK, pull the plug... you're boxed!
[Steve ignores the chopper and keeps going]
Police helicopter pilot: I said shut it down!
[finally, Steve realizes he's trapped and slows to a stop]
Police helicopter pilot: End of the line, pal...
________________________________________
Police helicopter pilot: [after Steve's cornered] Good run! Sharp through Sweeper, clean past Deadman's, a little sloppy through Grandstand, but I gotta tell you something, (edit) a-hole. You are in violation of Section 148 of the Penal Code: Evading arrest. Section 22349 of the Vehicle Code: Maximum speed limit. Section 22350: Basic speed law. Section 23109B: Exhibition of speed.
[the pilot keeps reading violations, but Steve turns his car stereo up to drown it out]

[Banning]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hail

Buddy: [after the Trans Am driver says they only race for money] What did you do?
Steve: I set up a race.
Buddy: Yeah, but for a hundred dollars?
Steve: Trust me....we won't need it!
Buddy: That's all I need to hear!
________________________________________
Cal: Some chick came by looking for you... drives a Citroen.
Steve: What did you tell her?
Cal: What did I tell her?
[pauses]
Cal: I told her you had a small (editpee pee!
________________________________________
Cal: How 'bout you man, you wanna race?
Race spectator: I don't even own a car..
Cal: Well have your father buy you one!
________________________________________
Barry Tanner: [speaking to Roger about Buddy's talents] You think he's a songwriter? He's not (edit) crap! When *I* record his stuff, then he's somebody.
________________________________________
Barry Tanner: You wanna be a record producer, or be your friends song schlepper? It's up to you, baby!
________________________________________
Cal: That's what this business is about...cars that don't run. Know what's worse than a car that won't run? Pushing a car that won't run!
[pauses]
Cal: No.. holding up a dead body..lifting him up, yeah. Especially if it's yours!
________________________________________
Steve: Are you going to be here when I get back?
Tina: That's the girl's line, remember?
________________________________________
Buddy: I'll run with you.
Cal: [turns and recognizes Buddy] Music maker... organ grinder.
Buddy: Hey, I've heard it all tonight... I'd rather not hear any more.
Cal: You're in over your head, boy.
Buddy: [angrily] Look! I said I'd run... now can you get it together, and tell me if you're in or out? I'm ready!
________________________________________
Steve: [Opening lines, voiceover] 23 miles of Mulholland, slicing Los Angeles like a knife... it's like a trip in time. Sometimes I just can't wait for night. You see too much in the sunshine. Road's changin'... civilization's choking it. At night, the straightaways are shorter... turns sharper... the drop steeper. It's the only place I ever felt safe. Clear, clean... and fast. Freedom. I wonder who it'll be tonight? I hope he's fast.
________________________________________
Police helicopter pilot: [directed at Steve, who's still racing] OK, pull the plug... you're boxed!
[Steve ignores the chopper and keeps going]
Police helicopter pilot: I said shut it down!
[finally, Steve realizes he's trapped and slows to a stop]
Police helicopter pilot: End of the line, pal...
________________________________________
Police helicopter pilot: [after Steve's cornered] Good run! Sharp through Sweeper, clean past Deadman's, a little sloppy through Grandstand, but I gotta tell you something, (edit) a-hole. You are in violation of Section 148 of the Penal Code: Evading arrest. Section 22349 of the Vehicle Code: Maximum speed limit. Section 22350: Basic speed law. Section 23109B: Exhibition of speed.
[the pilot keeps reading violations, but Steve turns his car stereo up to drown it out]

Those are some of the best quotes from the movie King of the Mountain Jeff.

One very important one was left out. It's the quote by Crazy Cal while he is racing his Vette thru Mulholland, where he said, "Speed is Time, Time is Speed". This is what John Hall and I would say to each other as kind of as a personal joke from the movie. LOL. King of the Mountain was based on the Thunder Road article by David Barry. The 1978 article had photos of our Porsche racecars and centered on Charley, myself, and John. It was a unique time in our lives, and Mulholland was enjoying an exciting rejuvination from the past days of the MRA, CRE, and the TVL groups. Back then on a Saturday night, you might see 50 or 60 cars parked in or near the Racecourse. It was the best of times.

Later, John used another quote from the end of the movie, the character Steve said something like, "Take it Cal, I don't want it anymore". This was just before Steve shut down and Cal drove his Corvette off of Mulholland in a firery crash (actually shot at Indian Dunes in Valencia). John used this quote after getting severely beat up by LAPD and had subsequently quit racing on Mulholland. I can't blame him for retiring, they threatened him with some pretty awful stuff after dragging him thru hellfire and brimstone. George M. also quit after getting brutally beaten and having his ribs broken while handcuffed hand over shoulder near Java. Remember it's on every car, "To Protect and to Serve". I'm sorry for being sarcastic, there are plenty of good police officers out there that get a bad rep from the actions of the mean officers. Every group of humans has it's share of good and bad.

By the way, there were others that learned from the above and quit Mulholland before ending poorly. Mark M. is a good example as are most members of the CRE who became involved in pro racing after Mulholland. I guess you could say that they were the smart ones, but I'm the wrong person to answer that question.